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Post by see2 on May 1, 2023 8:30:25 GMT
You are far too politically biased to be taken notice of when it comes to judging the quality of politicians. But you are entitled to your opinions. well ive yet to reach yours and sidfiddlers vacuous cult like level of bias with regard to labour.
We all like a laugh and a joke ,but labour take political satire to astounding levels.
Not content with their hypocrisy over covid , i havent stopped laughing since i read nandys wet fart in a spacesuit dialogue on housing.
Lets not forget other aspects of new labours 13 years in power at westmisnter , and their time in power at holyrood from 1999 - 2007 regarding housing.
We all remember how under tony blair gordon broon and their branch managers in scotland like mcconnell , homelessness went through the roof....
Fuckin cheek of that woman to talk about home ownership and house building , when labour are the enemies of housing ,and people having a roof over their heads .
Thank you for your excellent proof ^^^ that my earlier post was spot on
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Post by Toreador on May 1, 2023 8:34:01 GMT
The Electoral System failed no-one. We have First Past The Post. It worked just as it's meant to. The notion of changing to a PR system was roundly rejected at referendum, so there's evidently no great appetite for reform. Legerdemain by Cameron, PR wasn't on the voting form.
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Post by see2 on May 1, 2023 8:39:58 GMT
The people failed to elect him to sit in Westminster. Seven times. And? - he entered politics with one clear mission - and totally achieved that. How many other politicians can make that claim. His extremely, typically dishonest right-wing approach, to achieve what he wanted seems to appeal to you. And is still a long way away from proving to be the best outcome for the UK. IMO there is still a good possibility that an effigy of Farage may well replace Guy Fawkes on the bonfires in a generation or two.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2023 9:09:23 GMT
And? - he entered politics with one clear mission - and totally achieved that. How many other politicians can make that claim. His extremely, typically dishonest right-wing approach, to achieve what he wanted seems to appeal to you. And is still a long way away from proving to be the best outcome for the UK. IMO there is still a good possibility that an effigy of Farage may well replace Guy Fawkes on the bonfires in a generation or two. A bit like Blair and Thatcher then, lol
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Post by see2 on May 1, 2023 9:35:25 GMT
His extremely, typically dishonest right-wing approach, to achieve what he wanted seems to appeal to you. And is still a long way away from proving to be the best outcome for the UK. IMO there is still a good possibility that an effigy of Farage may well replace Guy Fawkes on the bonfires in a generation or two. A bit like Blair and Thatcher then, lol Posting idiotic politically biased posts appears to be your forte
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Post by Toreador on May 1, 2023 9:55:36 GMT
And? - he entered politics with one clear mission - and totally achieved that. How many other politicians can make that claim. His extremely, typically dishonest right-wing approach, to achieve what he wanted seems to appeal to you. And is still a long way away from proving to be the best outcome for the UK. IMO there is still a good possibility that an effigy of Farage may well replace Guy Fawkes on the bonfires in a generation or two. Guy Fawkes was the only honest man to enter Parliament.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 1, 2023 10:01:15 GMT
...and yet he has been rejected at the polls 7 times. Cracked record? It doesn't seem to be getting through.
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Post by sheepy on May 1, 2023 10:02:47 GMT
His extremely, typically dishonest right-wing approach, to achieve what he wanted seems to appeal to you. And is still a long way away from proving to be the best outcome for the UK. IMO there is still a good possibility that an effigy of Farage may well replace Guy Fawkes on the bonfires in a generation or two. Guy Fawkes was the only honest man to enter Parliament. With honest intentions' I thought it went.
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Post by see2 on May 1, 2023 10:07:30 GMT
His extremely, typically dishonest right-wing approach, to achieve what he wanted seems to appeal to you. And is still a long way away from proving to be the best outcome for the UK. IMO there is still a good possibility that an effigy of Farage may well replace Guy Fawkes on the bonfires in a generation or two. Guy Fawkes was the only honest man to enter Parliament. Seriously biased and with evil intent. Hmm
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2023 10:18:56 GMT
It doesn't seem to be getting through. It does. You completely ignore the fact that he could only operate outside of the Westminster establishment. If he was in a mainstream party he would have been restrained by a whip or the corrupt civil service. Instead, he, like the Eurosceptic parties, took the fight to the EU and gave the people of this country something to support. Within this scope Farage was a success. I also notice you ignore what The Squeezed Middle had stated, which is convenient if the intention is to only measure Farage's success by the representative democracy FPTP system - basically nothing more than a 5 year vote followed by disappointment and exposure of lies in a two party system. Farage had the support of the people, which is not only measured by individual votes, but also by the outcome of direct democracy.
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Post by Pacifico on May 1, 2023 10:44:33 GMT
And? - he entered politics with one clear mission - and totally achieved that. How many other politicians can make that claim. His extremely, typically dishonest right-wing approach, to achieve what he wanted seems to appeal to you. And is still a long way away from proving to be the best outcome for the UK. IMO there is still a good possibility that an effigy of Farage may well replace Guy Fawkes on the bonfires in a generation or two. Nothing at all dishonest about allowing the people a say..
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Post by Toreador on May 1, 2023 10:46:59 GMT
It doesn't seem to be getting through. Try at a different speed.
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Post by Montegriffo on May 1, 2023 10:58:51 GMT
It doesn't seem to be getting through. Try at a different speed. I'll try putting a penny on the arm.
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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 11:01:18 GMT
A bit like Blair and Thatcher then, lol Posting idiotic politically biased posts appears to be your forte anyone who disagrees with new labour and their vacuous followers like you and sid are of course according to you politically biased.
I dont always agree with steve( srb) and his politics , but he does have starmer and new new labour down to a tee.
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Post by thomas on May 1, 2023 11:09:15 GMT
His extremely, typically dishonest right-wing approach, to achieve what he wanted seems to appeal to you. And is still a long way away from proving to be the best outcome for the UK. IMO there is still a good possibility that an effigy of Farage may well replace Guy Fawkes on the bonfires in a generation or two. Nothing at all dishonest about allowing the people a say.. I agree. As we know though , new labour dont like the people havng their say. Robin cook masterminded the scottish 1979 devolution stitch up with his disgracefull 40 % rule , new labour opposed the people having their say on both the scottish and european referendums in 2014 and 2016 , where even the liberal democrats mocked millibands cowardly stance of not letting the people have a voice , and then of course as we know , starmer and his fellow blairites spent three years trying to piss all over the brexit vote before the public finally lost patience and gave johnson a landslide to get brexit done.
There is nothing dishonest about people having a say , but plenty dishonest about stopping them having a say or overturning votes that they dont like.
I dont support farage or his politics , but talking of buring effigys of the man on bonfires is typical of new labour supporters.
Sit quietly in the corner plebs and let new labour do your thinking for you seems to be starmer and cos mantra.
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