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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2023 21:20:31 GMT
Careful, Nigel Farage was also a 4 times winner to the European Parliament. He achieved Brexit without ever being elected an MP here. Although he was cheated in the South Thanet election when the Tories cheated in 2015. Nige was success, but he couldn't do any of it within the Westminster establishment. The Westminster establishment was just too corrupt and heavily relying on far-left violence to stamp out all who challenged the status quo. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 30, 2023 21:23:03 GMT
Congratulations. You are not a failed politician like Tommy Robinson (not his real name). He isn't even a politician, he's just somebody who lives in your head. Do keep up. He formed a political party and stood for election to the European Parliament. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 30, 2023 21:24:26 GMT
Careful, Nigel Farage was also a 4 times winner to the European Parliament. He achieved Brexit without ever being elected an MP here. Although he was cheated in the South Thanet election when the Tories cheated in 2015. Nige was success, but he couldn't do any of it within the Westminster establishment. The Westminster establishment was just too corrupt and heavily relying on far-left violence to stamp out all who challenged the status quo. The people failed to elect him to sit in Westminster. Seven times. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2023 21:30:09 GMT
He isn't even a politician, he's just somebody who lives in your head. Do keep up. He formed a political party and stood for election to the European Parliament. Nobody was paying attention to it. He's known to have stood up to Islamism and the ultra-violent far-left that the establishment relied on to shut down the little people. I get that makes him your enemy, but it isn't like he killed anyone or supported the death of thousands or millions of people for his own ego. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2023 21:32:18 GMT
Nige was success, but he couldn't do any of it within the Westminster establishment. The Westminster establishment was just too corrupt and heavily relying on far-left violence to stamp out all who challenged the status quo. The people failed to elect him to sit in Westminster. Seven times. So what? He wasn't a Westminster politician. It was probably for the best considering the establishment would rely on the odious and ultra-violent far-left to violently attack him or anyone else that stood in the way of the Westminster trio. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 30, 2023 21:34:35 GMT
Nige was success, but he couldn't do any of it within the Westminster establishment. The Westminster establishment was just too corrupt and heavily relying on far-left violence to stamp out all who challenged the status quo. The people failed to elect him to sit in Westminster. Seven times. No, the electoral system failed him: His party garnered far more votes than other parties that ended up with far more MPs.
That's a democracy fail, not a Farage fail.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 30, 2023 21:46:10 GMT
Nige was success, but he couldn't do any of it within the Westminster establishment. The Westminster establishment was just too corrupt and heavily relying on far-left violence to stamp out all who challenged the status quo. The people failed to elect him to sit in Westminster. Seven times. And? - he entered politics with one clear mission - and totally achieved that. How many other politicians can make that claim. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 30, 2023 21:47:50 GMT
Indeed. Farage was the most influential politician of his time. Without even getting elected to Westminster.
No other modern politician has ever achieved that.
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Post by Montegriffo on Apr 30, 2023 22:13:47 GMT
...and yet he has been rejected at the polls 7 times.
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Post by Toreador on May 1, 2023 6:29:53 GMT
...and yet he has been rejected at the polls 7 times. Cracked record? |
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Post by walterpaisley on May 1, 2023 6:48:16 GMT
Indeed. Farage was the most influential politician of his time. Without even getting elected to Westminster. No other modern politician has ever achieved that. He also had one of the worst voting records ever noted at the assembly he was elected to. For me, that's the TRUE indicator of "worst politician" - and it cuts across ALL party lines: If someone is happy to take the salary, but not actually do the job they're being paid for, they have no right to call themselves a "politician". An old school friend (from my village primary school) once held a seat in the House of Lords, until his was one of the hereditary seats abolished. He's a decent and honest guy. So decent and honest, in fact, that he hardly ever attended, and certainly never turned up just in order to sign the register and collect his day allowance - as so many other peers did. In fact, one of the few times he DID attend (he would make the effort to vote on things involving engineering and manufacturing) was in order to vote for his own abolition. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 1, 2023 6:51:50 GMT
Sorry Walter - but turning up, taking your allowances and keeping your seat warm are not the mark of a good politician.
The Commons and Lords are stuffed with people like that who achieve precisely zilch.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on May 1, 2023 8:06:26 GMT
...and yet he has been rejected at the polls 7 times. No, as I said: No, the electoral system failed him: His party garnered far more votes than other parties that ended up with far more MPs. That's a democracy fail, not a Farage fail.
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Post by walterpaisley on May 1, 2023 8:13:25 GMT
The Electoral System failed no-one. We have First Past The Post. It worked just as it's meant to.
The notion of changing to a PR system was roundly rejected at referendum, so there's evidently no great appetite for reform.
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Post by wapentake on May 1, 2023 8:23:48 GMT
The Electoral System failed no-one. We have First Past The Post. It worked just as it's meant to. The notion of changing to a PR system was roundly rejected at referendum, so there's evidently no great appetite for reform. Glad to see you endorse fptp in referendums too so no brexit failed no one  |
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