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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 27, 2023 7:47:42 GMT
linkI see she has been savaged by the Left wing press and commentators because she has "no data" to back this up. Ian Dale called Braverman "an appalling woman". Yet, while there may be little specific data on this area (because the government doesn't bother to keep it), there's plenty to suggest that she's dead right. For example we know that a large number of people coming on the boats were Albanian - and we know that Albanians are a massive 12 times over-represented in our jail population - and particularly involved in violence and drugs. We also know that most of these people are muslims and muslims are more than 3 times over-represented in crime. In fact muslims have taken over some jails and proving a danger for both prison officers and non-muslim prisoners. We also know that most of MI5 are fully occupied tracking dangerous muslims. But the Left still try to deny the obvious.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 8:05:22 GMT
On one hand you say "the government does not bother keeping the relevant data" and then say 'we know', how is this not contradictory?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 9:26:11 GMT
linkI see she has been savaged by the Left wing press and commentators because she has "no data" to back this up. Ian Dale called Braverman "an appalling woman". Yet, while there may be little specific data on this area (because the government doesn't bother to keep it), there's plenty to suggest that she's dead right. For example we know that a large number of people coming on the boats were Albanian - and we know that Albanians are a massive 12 times over-represented in our jail population - and particularly involved in violence and drugs. We also know that most of these people are muslims and muslims are more than 3 times over-represented in crime. In fact muslims have taken over some jails and proving a danger for both prison officers and non-muslim prisoners. We also know that most of MI5 are fully occupied tracking dangerous muslims. But the Left still try to deny the obvious. There are those in authority who want open borders and then there are those that want proper control. These two factions are at war with each other and the former are winning. Which is why virtually zero illegal immigrants are sent back. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 27, 2023 9:41:53 GMT
On one hand you say "the government does not bother keeping the relevant data" and then say 'we know', how is this not contradictory? On certain aspects the data is at best sketchy but we do know prison populations and they tell a tale. |
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Post by Dogburger on Apr 27, 2023 11:35:22 GMT
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 27, 2023 11:40:35 GMT
She's going to get the boot if she keeps spouting these truths.
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Post by steppenwolf on Apr 27, 2023 12:01:42 GMT
The trouble with the Lammy report is that he never took into account the fact that blacks commit more crime. They're over-represented. And sentences take into account previous convictions - which were never recorded in the data that the Lammy report used. It's a bit fundamental. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 27, 2023 12:04:56 GMT
I've mentioned this previously, it seems relevant to mention it again. There was an interesting letter in The Times from a criminal court circuit judge with 15 years experience. He said and I quote:
I can say I never sentenced anyone more harshly because of the colour of their skin, to do so would be contrary to one's oath of office. Nevertheless I have to confess that I have on occasions sentenced black youths to more lenient sentences that they might have expected because they so often came from broken homes and become involved in gangs. The reason the percentage of black youths in custody is so high is sadly, because they commit more offences.
His honour Andrew Hamilton, Nottingham.
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Post by bancroft on Apr 27, 2023 12:07:42 GMT
Is it not that she has said all immigrants commit crime yet ones illegally entering this country.
She has backed this up by speaking to Chief Constables.
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 27, 2023 12:09:59 GMT
I've mentioned this previously, it seems relevant to mention it again. There was an interesting letter in The Times from a criminal court circuit judge with 15 years experience. He said and I quote: I can say I never sentenced anyone more harshly because of the colour of their skin, to do so would be contrary to one's oath of office. Nevertheless I have to confess that I have on occasions sentenced black youths to more lenient sentences that they might have expected because they so often came from broken homes and become involved in gangs. The reason the percentage of black youths in custody is so high is sadly, because they commit more offences. His honour Andrew Hamilton, Nottingham. They turn to crime because it's easy money, and a lot of the time lots of money.
They don't want 9-5 menial jobs, they want fast, easy cash, and those who do want to work pick jobs like the NHS or teaching or police force, so when they get fed up they can accuse someone of racial abuse and claim loads in compo.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 27, 2023 12:41:11 GMT
She's going to get the boot if she keeps spouting these truths. No doubt she will be out next on some trumped-up charge of bullying or something. Not sure the activists will be keen to deploy the 'racist' charge at her, but there will be some sort of push via the media to have her removed. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 27, 2023 12:46:02 GMT
She's going to get the boot if she keeps spouting these truths. No doubt she will be out next on some trumped-up charge of bullying or something. Not sure the activists will be keen to deploy the 'racist' charge at her, but there will be some sort of push via the media to have her removed. Barclay is the next victim, he's won a high court ruling to stop nurses striking on the 2nd May, so now the snivel service will be trumping up bullying allegations, it's a bit easier to get rid of the white faces, so Braverman might cling on a bit longer. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 27, 2023 12:58:52 GMT
The trouble with the Lammy report is that he never took into account the fact that blacks commit more crime. They're over-represented. And sentences take into account previous convictions - which were never recorded in the data that the Lammy report used. It's a bit fundamental. Not much point in getting the fundamentals right if it does not prove one's point. Indicating bias was the intent from the start and sure enough that outcome was delivered, we should not be surprised. |
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Post by bancroft on Apr 27, 2023 13:07:18 GMT
The trouble with the Lammy report is that he never took into account the fact that blacks commit more crime. They're over-represented. And sentences take into account previous convictions - which were never recorded in the data that the Lammy report used. It's a bit fundamental. Not much point in getting the fundamentals right if it does not prove one's point. Indicating bias was the intent from the start and sure enough that outcome was delivered, we should not be surprised. Considering most of them live in cities if we had crime committed in cities reported by ethnic groups it would become even more evident how bad the situation really is. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2023 7:11:48 GMT
"If an asylum seeker is placed in contingency accommodation such as a hotel, which offers meals, they are eligible for £8.24 per week to cover clothes, non-prescription medication and travel. They are not eligible for mainstream benefits".
People may wonder why 'some' asylum seekers turn to crime.
To say "Asylum seekers are fuelling crime' is just not true.
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