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Post by sandypine on Apr 27, 2023 13:12:10 GMT
What section of people is being abused? What group of people is the topic discussing? OK we will move along what ethnic group is that bearing in mind that some are white, some Asian and some black. There is no tarring of an ethnic group there is discussing a group of people whose common denominator is illegal entry to the UK. Just as you would discuss people whose common denominator was 'being religious'. It is not illegal to talk about religious people in general terms as it implies no group as defined in any act. |
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Post by bancroft on Apr 27, 2023 13:13:25 GMT
People crossing borders are largely poor trying to get into richer countries and to do this have been groomed to say they are oppressed. It's largely a scam.
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Post by sandypine on Apr 27, 2023 13:25:46 GMT
Racist is a word easily employed by the open borders faction. That's because people crossing borders are usually foreign and it's how we treat different groups of people. But there is no suggestion that it applies to all foreign people. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 27, 2023 13:29:11 GMT
As far as I can tell it's the English language directed at nobody in particular. YOu object to the people of this country being heard, because you support no restrictions to the number of people who come here, whilst crying because the public institutions are at breaking point. The fact that you have repetitively derailed this thread over something that happened to Abbott highlights your trolling. But you of course are wrong. I do not support no limits on immigration but rather a fair system that takes in the needs of some of the most vulnerable people in the world. What I can't understand is why you don't. My comment about Abbott is pertinent as to the double standards at play. We already have that and apply it. All we disagree on is the numbers. Do you have a number that is too many as you have siad you do not support no limits. So what is your limit? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 13:44:26 GMT
Racist is a word easily employed by the open borders faction. That's because people crossing borders are usually foreign and it's how we treat different groups of people. I'm not so sure, I think the racist accusation is to close down debate. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 27, 2023 16:21:20 GMT
Correct, but then again, he isn't hating Muslims, merely offering his opinion on how they shut down debate. He could have used the same argument about Christians or Hindus if they were applicable. Your beloved racist Dianne Abbott never addressed Judaism, so your phony religious claim is basically nonsense. She was referring to them as a group - a racial group under US law. It's strange that you object considering Labour pushed so many draconian laws to counter speech, but like I hinted at before the hypocrisy from the left is extreme. They're certainly not the people you want overseeing the channel migrant crisis (the topic).
You cannot see a point when it's poked in your eye.😂 Do you not understand that it makes you look like a racist if you believe abusing one section of people is permittable whilst doing exactly the same thing to another is not. Well it doesn't seem to bother you if they are British voters, I am guessing the irony has escaped you. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 16:41:46 GMT
What group of people is the topic discussing? OK we will move along what ethnic group is that bearing in mind that some are white, some Asian and some black. There is no tarring of an ethnic group there is discussing a group of people whose common denominator is illegal entry to the UK. Just as you would discuss people whose common denominator was 'being religious'. It is not illegal to talk about religious people in general terms as it implies no group as defined in any act. We are specifically talking about migrants - it is in the title. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 16:43:11 GMT
People crossing borders are largely poor trying to get into richer countries and to do this have been groomed to say they are oppressed. It's largely a scam. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, a lot of ignorance is even worse. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 16:43:36 GMT
That's because people crossing borders are usually foreign and it's how we treat different groups of people. But there is no suggestion that it applies to all foreign people. You are going of topic. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2023 16:44:47 GMT
But you of course are wrong. I do not support no limits on immigration but rather a fair system that takes in the needs of some of the most vulnerable people in the world. What I can't understand is why you don't. My comment about Abbott is pertinent as to the double standards at play. We already have that and apply it. All we disagree on is the numbers. Do you have a number that is too many as you have siad you do not support no limits. So what is your limit? No I do not. Is that important in the context of the topic or my statement? |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 27, 2023 18:39:07 GMT
OK we will move along what ethnic group is that bearing in mind that some are white, some Asian and some black. There is no tarring of an ethnic group there is discussing a group of people whose common denominator is illegal entry to the UK. Just as you would discuss people whose common denominator was 'being religious'. It is not illegal to talk about religious people in general terms as it implies no group as defined in any act. We are specifically talking about migrants - it is in the title. We are specifically talking about channel migrants if we are going by the title. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 27, 2023 18:52:25 GMT
We already have that and apply it. All we disagree on is the numbers. Do you have a number that is too many as you have siad you do not support no limits. So what is your limit? No I do not. Is that important in the context of the topic or my statement? I am trying for clarification of a position. You say that you do not support no limit to migration. For many people the limit was reached and passed many years ago as the polls will indicate. Where does your limit lie, is it a moving limit, is it based on our own population, is it dependant on several years numbers, is it dependant on other countries or circumstances as yet undefined. Your statement was you do not support no limits to migration but want a fair system. Perhaps if we knew what you meant as regards both we could get a handle on how far we are below your limit and what a fair system actually entails. Some believe that a fair system should be principally fair to the people of the UK most of whom, as polls continually show, think it is very unfair to them as the numbers arriving increase. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 27, 2023 18:55:05 GMT
But there is no suggestion that it applies to all foreign people. You are going of topic. So it is only foreign people crossing the channel that is the focus of the discussion. They are only defined by the fact they cross the channel and enter the UK illegally. That is the only common identity. |
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Post by bancroft on Apr 27, 2023 19:39:33 GMT
People crossing borders are largely poor trying to get into richer countries and to do this have been groomed to say they are oppressed. It's largely a scam. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, a lot of ignorance is even worse. It is not ignorance I went to a comprehensive school, I have seen what can happen and seen my own family in London not political at all becoming soft targets of poor immigrants. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2023 6:18:34 GMT
We are specifically talking about migrants - it is in the title. We are specifically talking about channel migrants if we are going by the title. We are talking about a group of people and the racist language used by our government. |
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