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Post by zanygame on May 4, 2023 20:30:10 GMT
I'm going to take the time to explain this to you once. Frankly I think you are one shilling short of a pound, but I'll give it a go out of politeness. I said. "I think most people can understand the worries of those who are told the government are shipping a load of illegal migrants to their town."So this sentence means: In my opinion a majority of people appreciate the worries of a group of local people living in a town where the British government have decided to house illegal immigrants. How can this be construed as meaning the people in the town concerned are not allowed to make up their own minds? Because not being the brightest spark in the box Zany, you tried to move the goalposts, as for your personal opinion of me, I couldn't give a flying feck. They are not genuine Asylum seekers but illegal immigrants. As we are explaining of course. Yes, that's why I called them illegal migrants. See the words in the sentence above "shipping a load of illegal migrants"I just realised you're another of those peculiar people like Mags, who has to invent what other people say in order to argue against it. You find what your opposition actually says to ambiguous to argue with, so you just make up their words for them . |
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Post by zanygame on May 4, 2023 20:32:31 GMT
I'm going to take the time to explain this to you once. Frankly I think you are one shilling short of a pound, but I'll give it a go out of politeness. I said. "I think most people can understand the worries of those who are told the government are shipping a load of illegal migrants to their town."So this sentence means: In my opinion a majority of people appreciate the worries of a group of local people living in a town where the British government have decided to house illegal immigrants. How can this be construed as meaning the people in the town concerned are not allowed to make up their own minds? By repute is once again the answer. I'll leave you two to it. |
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Post by sheepy on May 4, 2023 20:33:50 GMT
Because not being the brightest spark in the box Zany, you tried to move the goalposts, as for your personal opinion of me, I couldn't give a flying feck. They are not genuine Asylum seekers but illegal immigrants. As we are explaining of course. Yes, that's why I called them illegal migrants. See the words in the sentence above "shipping a load of illegal migrants"I just realised you're another of those peculiar people like Mags, who has to invent what other people say in order to argue against it. You find what your opposition actually says to ambiguous to argue with, so you just make up their words for them . No, Zany you were caught red handed and have been back peddling ever since. Which although amusing and good fun, it does get a bit tedious. |
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Post by zanygame on May 4, 2023 21:02:55 GMT
Yes, that's why I called them illegal migrants. See the words in the sentence above "shipping a load of illegal migrants"I just realised you're another of those peculiar people like Mags, who has to invent what other people say in order to argue against it. You find what your opposition actually says to ambiguous to argue with, so you just make up their words for them . No, Zany you were caught red handed and have been back peddling ever since. Which although amusing and good fun, it does get a bit tedious. Oh I see you're just a jerk. I'll ignore you then. |
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Post by sheepy on May 4, 2023 21:12:35 GMT
No, Zany you were caught red handed and have been back peddling ever since. Which although amusing and good fun, it does get a bit tedious. Oh I see you're just a jerk. I'll ignore you then. So you keep saying. |
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Post by sheepy on May 5, 2023 6:37:55 GMT
Typically, and sadly for the people of Bexhill Zany is the perfect example of how politicians work first they try and steer the conversation into their way of thinking, then when that doesn't work, they ignore you and do as they wish anyway. While calling you an idiot which backs up their own agenda instead.
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Post by Dogburger on May 7, 2023 22:03:26 GMT
I would put them to work . Provide accomodation , food of their choice , education ect in fact everything they could wish for ,a type of modern workhouse where they can feel safe and productive in the knowlege they were paying their way . I wouldn't give them any wages though , maybe a bit of pocket money for personal bits but thats it . The genuine refugee would be delighted , the economic migrant would go to Germany ,the criminal element would stay at home . And if they didn't produce enough? That would of course be taken into consideration when they apply for leave to remain . But Im not talking about slave labour just a way of (as requested) seperating the genuine refugee from the economic migrant |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 7, 2023 22:09:49 GMT
And if they didn't produce enough? That would of course be taken into consideration when they apply for leave to remain . But Im not talking about slave labour just a way of (as requested) seperating the genuine refugee from the economic migrant A moot point perhaps, but the only reason illegal immigrants can land on an English beach and claim to be refugees, from France, is because of 70 year old legislation that is not fit for purpose in the 21st century. |
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Post by Dogburger on May 7, 2023 22:35:37 GMT
That would of course be taken into consideration when they apply for leave to remain . But Im not talking about slave labour just a way of (as requested) seperating the genuine refugee from the economic migrant A moot point perhaps, but the only reason illegal immigrants can land on an English beach and claim to be refugees, from France, is because of 70 year old legislation that is not fit for purpose in the 21st century. They can claim to be whatever they want , it doesn't mean we have to believe them though which has always been the problem . |
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Post by zanygame on May 8, 2023 7:00:28 GMT
That would of course be taken into consideration when they apply for leave to remain . But Im not talking about slave labour just a way of (as requested) seperating the genuine refugee from the economic migrant A moot point perhaps, but the only reason illegal immigrants can land on an English beach and claim to be refugees, from France, is because of 70 year old legislation that is not fit for purpose in the 21st century. We agree the legislation needs updating, I would disagree that any re-writing should be used to force our responsibilities for humanity onto France by slight of hand and geographic positioning. |
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Post by zanygame on May 8, 2023 7:03:43 GMT
And if they didn't produce enough? That would of course be taken into consideration when they apply for leave to remain . But Im not talking about slave labour just a way of (as requested) seperating the genuine refugee from the economic migrant Good point. Though a bit scary that the decision on whether you are sent back depends on your production rate rather than the validity of your case. I am in favour of keeping applicants locked up until their case is heard. I would want the process to take less than 6 months. |
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Post by Red Rackham on May 10, 2023 9:46:51 GMT
A moot point perhaps, but the only reason illegal immigrants can land on an English beach and claim to be refugees, from France, is because of 70 year old legislation that is not fit for purpose in the 21st century. We agree the legislation needs updating, I would disagree that any re-writing should be used to force our responsibilities for humanity onto France by slight of hand and geographic positioning. ZG, it is not the responsibility of the UK to look after humanity. France are pro EU and pro open borders, their immigration problems are their own fault and nothing to do with the UK. Besides, since 2007 thanks to Labour and the EU, England has been the most densely populated country in Europe, we are full. France is twice the size of the UK with roughly the same population. Macron likes the EU and open borders, let the EU/France deal with illegals. |
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Post by Vinny on May 10, 2023 14:11:02 GMT
The Rwandan genocide was 29 years ago.
By now, things are safe.
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Post by Pacifico on May 10, 2023 17:13:38 GMT
As Rwanda is now a luxury holiday destination you would be struggling to claim it is unsafe..
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Post by sheepy on May 10, 2023 17:55:32 GMT
So basically, the good people of Bexhill are being fecked by politics and politicians backed by the civil service. The sooner they realise they are the ones who have been well and truly fecked and are paying for it in every way, the quicker people can put it right.
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