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Post by zanygame on May 2, 2023 20:24:19 GMT
Not sure how many that applies to. Not sure how many this applies to but it does seem to be rife and comes with the influx where young women are sexually assaulted in the middle of the day and on public transport. Something for locals at Bexhill to look forward to as they go through the enrichment process. The left seem singularly unbothered by this. “Africa in Peschiera” Wreaks Havoc in Towns Around Lake Garda. europeanconservative.com/articles/news/africa-in-peschiera-wreaks-havoc-in-towns-around-lake-garda/Actually seems extremely rare as this is the only case I've heard of. Is the a UK case of this? Personally I don't think there's any need to demonise these migrants in order to want them stopped from coming here. |
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Post by Pacifico on May 2, 2023 21:28:30 GMT
I'm always amazed how we give asylum to all these people fleeing their home countries because they are unsafe to live in, but then it appears that they are safe enough for them to go back there on holiday.. Not sure how many that applies to. About 79% according to Sweden.. But perhaps we get a different class of asylum seekers.. |
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Post by zanygame on May 3, 2023 5:59:04 GMT
Not sure how many that applies to. About 79% according to Sweden.. But perhaps we get a different class of asylum seekers.. That is staggering at first glance. How many I wonder arrived in Sweden 10 to 20 years ago when their home country was at war? I'm not making this as a claim, just trying to logic out such a high number. Translation for other viewers: A new survey from Novus shows that over 85 percent of people born abroad have at some point travelled back to their country of birth for a vacation
Among those who came to Sweden as refugees, the percentage who have vacationed in their old home country is 79 percent |
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Post by Toreador on May 3, 2023 6:33:55 GMT
About 79% according to Sweden.. But perhaps we get a different class of asylum seekers.. That is staggering at first glance. How many I wonder arrived in Sweden 10 to 20 years ago when their home country was at war? I'm not making this as a claim, just trying to logic out such a high number.Translation for other viewers: A new survey from Novus shows that over 85 percent of people born abroad have at some point travelled back to their country of birth for a vacation
Among those who came to Sweden as refugees, the percentage who have vacationed in their old home country is 79 percentLogic should suggest those should be repatriated to their own safe country. |
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Post by sheepy on May 3, 2023 6:43:24 GMT
Never fear though, the Westminster party will immediately hold their hands up and say how they have wronged everyone and put it right, erm no, they will carry on regardless pretending they have answers while doing exactly the same thing hoping for a different result.
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Post by Dan Dare on May 3, 2023 12:25:30 GMT
I'm always amazed how we give asylum to all these people fleeing their home countries because they are unsafe to live in, but then it appears that they are safe enough for them to go back there on holiday.. Not sure how many that applies to. Judging by the pictures in the press it would seem to apply to many if not all the 'British nationals' UKGov is currently evacuating from Sudan.
British nationals awaiting evacuation outside a hotel in Port Sudan.
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Post by Red Rackham on May 3, 2023 13:41:26 GMT
As someone once said 'we must be mad, literally mad'.
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Post by zanygame on May 3, 2023 20:04:29 GMT
That is staggering at first glance. How many I wonder arrived in Sweden 10 to 20 years ago when their home country was at war? I'm not making this as a claim, just trying to logic out such a high number.Translation for other viewers: A new survey from Novus shows that over 85 percent of people born abroad have at some point travelled back to their country of birth for a vacation
Among those who came to Sweden as refugees, the percentage who have vacationed in their old home country is 79 percentLogic should suggest those should be repatriated to their own safe country. So if a Ukrainian refugee arrives here with her children and is stuck here for 4 years of the war. Her children settle, make friends. She decides to stay. Should she be forcibly repatriated when the war ends? |
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Post by zanygame on May 3, 2023 20:07:28 GMT
As someone once said 'we must be mad, literally mad'. So if a Rwandan refugee arrives here escaping the genocide and is stuck here for 6 years of the war. He settles down and meets someone should he be forcibly repatriated when the war ends? |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 3, 2023 20:34:54 GMT
I don't think there is anything in the Refugee Convention that requires a country that has provided sanctuary to offer permanent lifetime settlement to a refugee once it becomes safe for him to return home.
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Post by Toreador on May 3, 2023 20:41:33 GMT
I don't think there is anything in the Refugee Convention that requires a country that has provided sanctuary to offer permanent lifetime settlement to a refugee once it becomes safe for him to return home. Neither do I and those granted refugee status should be made well aware of what might happen in the event. |
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Post by zanygame on May 3, 2023 20:44:58 GMT
I don't think there is anything in the Refugee Convention that requires a country that has provided sanctuary to offer permanent lifetime settlement to a refugee once it becomes safe for him to return home. Its funny how the refugee convention is up for criticism when it helps the refugee, but to be trusted completely when that is convenient. For me its about what's the right thing to do. |
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Post by Toreador on May 3, 2023 20:52:11 GMT
I don't think there is anything in the Refugee Convention that requires a country that has provided sanctuary to offer permanent lifetime settlement to a refugee once it becomes safe for him to return home. Its funny how the refugee convention is up for criticism when it helps the refugee, but to be trusted completely when that is convenient. For me its about what's the right thing to do. As usual others have to do your research. Refugee status is for five years, beyond that, if one wants to stay, they have to make a case. |
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Post by Dan Dare on May 3, 2023 20:55:50 GMT
My remarks shouldn't be construed as criticism of the Convention, which is of its time and place, but rather of the over-liberal interpretation of its requirements and the subsequent mission-creep.
As I understand it in the UK, for example, refugee status is granted for an initial period of five years after which an assessment is made of the situation in the country of origin. At that stage the refugee is given the option of returning home or applying for Indefinite Leave to Remain. There is no option to extend refugee status for a further period.
Guess how many refugees choose the former.
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Post by zanygame on May 3, 2023 21:32:57 GMT
My remarks shouldn't be construed as criticism of the Convention, which is of its time and place, but rather of the over-liberal interpretation of its requirements and the subsequent mission-creep. As I understand it in the UK, for example, refugee status is granted for an initial period of five years after which an assessment is made of the situation in the country of origin. At that stage the refugee is given the option of returning home or applying for Indefinite Leave to Remain. There is no option to extend refugee status for a further period. Guess how many refugees choose the former. I have already said that I think the convention is out of date. My question is what replaces it. How do we offer sanctuary to those fleeing persecution and death while preventing the tidal wave of economic migrants. Forcing someone who was given refugee status to leave their new home after five years, for no better reason than 'that's what we're allowed o do' Is not what I am looking for as a Brit. |
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