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Post by piglet on Oct 22, 2022 12:18:46 GMT
My understanding of the economy is that it cannot be rescued, that whatever horrors that lie in wait during the winter, like no heating and food for the poor, there will be no money to help.
With war and pestilence now re emerging, something very bad is going to happen. There are horror stories coming out of the NHS. Can anyone see a way out? This is the consequence of the government not being able to say no, and the British public wanting butter on both sides all the while. Over the last 60 years. Living beyond our means for the sake of whoever getting power.
Do we deserve it?, yes. As a country, we are spoiled brats. Just look at the looming strikes, to be paid with what? This country needs a smack, and by god its coming.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 22, 2022 12:39:43 GMT
We are in for a rough ride and yes, the Government will have no choice but to reduce public spending back to austerity measures again to try and pay of our debts to the Bankers, as for the Strikes IMO Organised in an attempt to bring down the elected Government of the day once again.
Cost of living has gone up but striking will mean it will take us much longer to lower inflation, as many businesses are struggling to keep going and pay increasing overheads as well as paying staff any large wage demands could well mean staff workers numbers cut, or the owners just shutting up shop and walking away, the numbers of unemplyment will start to rise rapidly which happened back in the bad old days.
Some never learn from the mistakes made in the past, so are destined to repeat them
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2022 14:22:57 GMT
We are in for a rough ride and yes, the Government will have no choice but to reduce public spending back to austerity measures again to try and pay of our debts to the Bankers, as for the Strikes IMO Organised in an attempt to bring down the elected Government of the day once again. Cost of living has gone up but striking will mean it will take us much longer to lower inflation, as many businesses are struggling to keep going and pay increasing overheads as well as paying staff any large wage demands could well mean staff workers numbers cut, or the owners just shutting up shop and walking away, the numbers of unemplyment will start to rise rapidly which happened back in the bad old days. Some never learn from the mistakes made in the past, so are destined to repeat them Why are you blaming the British workers? |
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Post by colbops on Oct 22, 2022 14:58:21 GMT
We are in for a rough ride and yes, the Government will have no choice but to reduce public spending back to austerity measures again to try and pay of our debts to the Bankers, as for the Strikes IMO Organised in an attempt to bring down the elected Government of the day once again. Cost of living has gone up but striking will mean it will take us much longer to lower inflation, as many businesses are struggling to keep going and pay increasing overheads as well as paying staff any large wage demands could well mean staff workers numbers cut, or the owners just shutting up shop and walking away, the numbers of unemplyment will start to rise rapidly which happened back in the bad old days. Some never learn from the mistakes made in the past, so are destined to repeat them Why are you blaming the British workers? Fundamentally lazy, wants something for nothing. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 22, 2022 15:04:12 GMT
Over the many years I worked the shop stewards were the laziest buggers I have ever met, we used to joke " Boss needs to send them to Hospital for an X Ray to see if there is a decent day's work in them " they would swan off to Union Meetings every so often, Labour Conference every year for a Jolly Boys outing, they still got a full day's pay.
About as much use as a one-legged man at an arse kicking party
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 22, 2022 16:52:19 GMT
Why are you blaming the British workers? Nowt wrong with the workers. It's the shirkers I object to. |
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Post by vlk on Oct 22, 2022 17:06:55 GMT
Wow, that was like a religious rant! The end is nigh! Repent!
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Post by jonksy on Oct 22, 2022 17:49:55 GMT
We are in for a rough ride and yes, the Government will have no choice but to reduce public spending back to austerity measures again to try and pay of our debts to the Bankers, as for the Strikes IMO Organised in an attempt to bring down the elected Government of the day once again. Cost of living has gone up but striking will mean it will take us much longer to lower inflation, as many businesses are struggling to keep going and pay increasing overheads as well as paying staff any large wage demands could well mean staff workers numbers cut, or the owners just shutting up shop and walking away, the numbers of unemplyment will start to rise rapidly which happened back in the bad old days. Some never learn from the mistakes made in the past, so are destined to repeat them Why are you blaming the British workers? Because the majority of them are lazy arseholes who think the bloody world owes them a living. |
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Post by dodgydave on Oct 23, 2022 1:17:46 GMT
I work for Royal Mail and I am currently taking part in industrial action.
Read the following and tell me that any of it is because I am lazy or trying to bring down the government:
Royal Mail, without negotiation with the Unions has:
Imposed a 2% pay rise.
Informed me that they are going to impose:
Annualized hours (Send me home when it is quiet, and then I have to make up the time when they say, and on days outside of my rota. So I could be doing 60 hour weeks at xmas for 40-hour money lol)
Start sick pay from week two, instead of day one, and at SSP rates.
Make me work Sundays, and at flat rate.
New staff will start on 20% less money.
I'm a truck driver, so I'm not getting it half as bad as the Posties. They have been told their day will start 3 hours later so they will be delivering mail at 6pm! They have even been told they need to "walk faster" so they can do more deliveries lol.
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Post by totheleft3 on Oct 23, 2022 2:44:39 GMT
I work for Royal Mail and I am currently taking part in industrial action. Read the following and tell me that any of it is because I am lazy or trying to bring down the government: Royal Mail, without negotiation with the Unions has: Imposed a 2% pay rise. Informed me that they are going to impose: Annualized hours (Send me home when it is quiet, and then I have to make up the time when they say, and on days outside of my rota. So I could be doing 60 hour weeks at xmas for 40-hour money lol) Start sick pay from week two, instead of day one, and at SSP rates. Make me work Sundays, and at flat rate. New staff will start on 20% less money. I'm a truck driver, so I'm not getting it half as bad as the Posties. They have been told their day will start 3 hours later so they will be delivering mail at 6pm! They have even been told they need to "walk faster" so they can do more deliveries lol.I Aint Royal mail talking laying off 10, 000 workers |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 5:23:29 GMT
Why are you blaming the British workers? Fundamentally lazy, wants something for nothing. Nurses are lazy? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2022 5:27:51 GMT
Why are you blaming the British workers? Because the majority of them are lazy arseholes who think the bloody world owes them a living. The majority of British workers want decent pay and conditions. Why do you think workers in well paid jobs do not go on strike. Is it really lazy to not want to accept real terms cut in your pay? |
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Post by steppenwolf on Oct 23, 2022 6:42:55 GMT
The root cause of our economic problems was Brown's 2007/8 Credit Crunch which ended up with the BoE having to raise QE of nearly £400 billion. Then we had the Covid pandemic which required further QE (about £450 billion for furlough). Sunak also made a balls up various handouts (Bounce back loans that were an invitation to fraudsters to fill their boots - which cost over £40 billion). And then we had the Ukraine war which exacerbated the commodity crisis created by Covid leading to higher interest rates to combat inflation. A perfect storm - we're sitting on huge borrowings and then interest rates start rising.
The OP is right. We expect too much. Too many people think that they can solve their cost of living crisis by demanding inflation-linked pay rises (or even benefit rises) but that's just a vicious circle which will cause inflation to spiral. We've been paid too much for too little (in the way of productivity) for decades and this is the result.
I do have some sympathy with the Royal Mail employees, but most of the rest (especially the rail workers) deserve NO rise whatsoever.
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Post by jonksy on Oct 23, 2022 6:51:57 GMT
Because the majority of them are lazy arseholes who think the bloody world owes them a living. The majority of British workers want decent pay and conditions.
Why do you think workers in well paid jobs do not go on strike.Is it really lazy to not want to accept real terms cut in your pay? Workers have never had so many rights and good working conditions like they have now.
So why are train drivers on strike then?
It's bloody stupid when it will be the straw that breaks the camels back.
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Post by Handyman on Oct 23, 2022 8:10:06 GMT
Why are you blaming the British workers? Nowt wrong with the workers. It's the shirkers I object to. Yes |
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