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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 14, 2023 9:17:44 GMT
It what was high predictable, Starmer's journey into the gutter has made him fair game. Countless memes are all over the internet, and deep diving of his past has started... and he now has no moral comeback. I wonder how happy he will be when they go after his wife, like they have gone after Sunak's? Starmer spent THREE TIMES more than previous head of CPS... including TWO GRAND A WEEK on a chauffeur driven car when he lived just FOUR MILES away from his place of work lol: declassifieduk.org/revealed-keir-starmer-billed-taxpayer-nearly-250000-for-travel-expenses-at-cps/   Personally i do not understand how a party who when in government famously ensured a blind eye was turned to the systematic grooming and sexual abuse of vulnerable white teenagers by asian men upon whom the party depended for electoral success can think they can possibly launch campaign posters of the sort they have and not catch the backwash |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 14, 2023 9:28:07 GMT
It what was high predictable, Starmer's journey into the gutter has made him fair game. Countless memes are all over the internet, and deep diving of his past has started... and he now has no moral comeback. I wonder how happy he will be when they go after his wife, like they have gone after Sunak's? Starmer spent THREE TIMES more than previous head of CPS... including TWO GRAND A WEEK on a chauffeur driven car when he lived just FOUR MILES away from his place of work lol: declassifieduk.org/revealed-keir-starmer-billed-taxpayer-nearly-250000-for-travel-expenses-at-cps/Let each fight for the truth or insinuation behind such claims. I have previously commented on the fact that the Tory propaganda crap machine is a highly polished, experienced and long term successful machine. IMO this sort of shite has played a major part of Conservative success in politics, going as far back as I can recall, which includes the late 1950s. This is why I suspect that fighting fire with fire won't backfire on Starmer. The simple reason being that too many of the UK electorate are so easily led, and now Labour are creating a more level playing field. He's a dodgy lying chancer. And we saw that post 2017 when all his claims of "I won't I won't I won't" turned out to be bollocks. And NO, I don't particularly like the Tories either. But, just after single handedly losing Labour the 2019 election with his unachievable remain stance, he stood for the leadership!!! What on earth was going on in his head? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 14, 2023 9:31:39 GMT
Let each fight for the truth or insinuation behind such claims. I have previously commented on the fact that the Tory propaganda crap machine is a highly polished, experienced and long term successful machine. IMO this sort of shite has played a major part of Conservative success in politics, going as far back as I can recall, which includes the late 1950s. This is why I suspect that fighting fire with fire won't backfire on Starmer. The simple reason being that too many of the UK electorate are so easily led, and now Labour are creating a more level playing field. . And we saw that post 2017 when all his claims of "I won't I won't I won't" turned out to be bollocks. And NO, I don't particularly like the Tories either. But, just after single handedly losing Labour the 2019 election with his unachievable remain stance, he stood for the leadership!!! What on earth was going on in his head? Yep that just about sums him up in one line. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 14, 2023 9:32:00 GMT
It what was high predictable, Starmer's journey into the gutter has made him fair game. Countless memes are all over the internet, and deep diving of his past has started... and he now has no moral comeback. I wonder how happy he will be when they go after his wife, like they have gone after Sunak's? Starmer spent THREE TIMES more than previous head of CPS... including TWO GRAND A WEEK on a chauffeur driven car when he lived just FOUR MILES away from his place of work lol: declassifieduk.org/revealed-keir-starmer-billed-taxpayer-nearly-250000-for-travel-expenses-at-cps/Personally i do not understand how a party who when in government famously ensured a blind eye was turned to the systematic grooming and sexual abuse of vulnerable white teenagers by asian men upon whom the party depended for electoral success can think they can possibly launch campaign posters of the sort they have and not catch the backwashLets hope the electorate remember that at the next GE mate.......Those who throw stones etc. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 14, 2023 9:33:06 GMT
Young voters i.e. 18 and 19 year old first time voters will have no idea how bad Labour were last time.
Most of the under 30's won't know.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 14, 2023 9:39:34 GMT
Young voters i.e. 18 and 19 year old first time voters will have no idea how bad Labour were last time. Most of the under 30's won't know. They will get the message loud and clear if they do vote them in mate.....You only have to see the state that Wales and londonistan is in now to see how everything labour touches turns to shite whilst they are expected to pay even more for the privilege of being crapped on from a great height. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 14, 2023 9:43:54 GMT
Young voters i.e. 18 and 19 year old first time voters will have no idea how bad Labour were last time. Most of the under 30's won't know. That's the group Labour are hoping to win over, that's why they've got so much woke going on, but in their haste to attract that age group with their wokery they are in danger of losing the grassroots Labour voters. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2023 10:18:38 GMT
Young voters i.e. 18 and 19 year old first time voters will have no idea how bad Labour were last time. Most of the under 30's won't know. How bad Labour were last time ? Do you mean when we actually had REAL sustainable growth ? Or perhaps you mean when ambulances actually turned up within a few minutes after dialing 999 When there was no "Cost Of Living Crisis" When the satisfaction rate of our NHS was at record high, when waiting lists were low, and waiting times falling When inflation was low and the economy was booming When public services were fit for purpose, when kids and families had SureStart, the Education Maintanence Allowance, real help for those on low wages, when living standards were rising - not falling. When the country felt good - cool Brittania, almost like the Swinging Sixties Yes please - please lets go back to Britain under the last Labour government |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 14, 2023 10:23:47 GMT
Young voters i.e. 18 and 19 year old first time voters will have no idea how bad Labour were last time. Most of the under 30's won't know. That's the group Labour are hoping to win over, that's why they've got so much woke going on, but in their haste to attract that age group with their wokery they are in danger of losing the grassroots Labour voters. I think they lost the Labour grassroots voter a long time ago when they stiffed them and their families through the Labour governments in the sixties, seventies, 90s and on. If a party stands as representing the best interests of a specific group it is not hard to see how the interests of that group were totally ignored. They may go back to Labour through the best of a bad bunch but Labour no longer hold a large core support. |
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Post by sandypine on Apr 14, 2023 10:27:13 GMT
Young voters i.e. 18 and 19 year old first time voters will have no idea how bad Labour were last time. Most of the under 30's won't know. How bad Labour were last time ? Do you mean when we actually had REAL sustainable growth ? Or perhaps you mean when ambulances actually turned up within a few minutes after dialing 999 When there was no "Cost Of Living Crisis" When the satisfaction rate of our NHS was at record high, when waiting lists were low, and waiting times falling When inflation was low and the economy was booming When public services were fit for purpose, when kids and families had SureStart, the Education Maintanence Allowance, real help for those on low wages, when living standards were rising - not falling. When the country felt good - cool Brittania, almost like the Swinging Sixties Yes please - please lets go back to Britain under the last Labour government When did the economy start booming, when did inflation fall, when did living standards start to rise? When did the rot set in? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 14, 2023 10:33:15 GMT
That's the group Labour are hoping to win over, that's why they've got so much woke going on, but in their haste to attract that age group with their wokery they are in danger of losing the grassroots Labour voters. I think they lost the Labour grassroots voter a long time ago when they stiffed them and their families through the Labour governments in the sixties, seventies, 90s and on. If a party stands as representing the best interests of a specific group it is not hard to see how the interests of that group were totally ignored. They may go back to Labour through the best of a bad bunch but Labour no longer hold a large core support. Yes I tend to agree, Blair and Prescott were the poster boys of Labour, one reason they had a landslide victory, it went horribly wrong when Blair joined Bush in their illegal war.
What Starmer/Labour need to do now, is got back to the Blair/Prescott formula prior to the illegal war, and work on what springboard Blair/Prescott to a landslide victory, Starmer has no direction, and no polices, he doesn't actually know what Labour represents or who they represent, he needs to go back to the old school.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 14, 2023 10:36:24 GMT
I think they lost the Labour grassroots voter a long time ago when they stiffed them and their families through the Labour governments in the sixties, seventies, 90s and on. If a party stands as representing the best interests of a specific group it is not hard to see how the interests of that group were totally ignored. They may go back to Labour through the best of a bad bunch but Labour no longer hold a large core support. Yes I tend to agree, Blair and Prescott were the poster boys of Labour, one reason they had a landslide victory, it went horribly wrong when Blair joined Bush in their illegal war.
What Starmer/Labour need to do now, is got back to the Blair/Prescott formula prior to the illegal war, and work on what springboard Blair/Prescott to a landslide victory, Starmer has no direction, and no polices, he doesn't actually know what Labour represents or who they represent, he needs to go back to the old school.
And don't forget mate it was Blair that opened the floodgate to cheap labour and their hangars on. Whilst overseeing our own workforce being shit on. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 14, 2023 10:36:59 GMT
It what was high predictable, Starmer's journey into the gutter has made him fair game. Countless memes are all over the internet, and deep diving of his past has started... and he now has no moral comeback. I wonder how happy he will be when they go after his wife, like they have gone after Sunak's? Starmer spent THREE TIMES more than previous head of CPS... including TWO GRAND A WEEK on a chauffeur driven car when he lived just FOUR MILES away from his place of work lol: declassifieduk.org/revealed-keir-starmer-billed-taxpayer-nearly-250000-for-travel-expenses-at-cps/Personally i do not understand how a party who when in government famously ensured a blind eye was turned to the systematic grooming and sexual abuse of vulnerable white teenagers by asian men upon whom the party depended for electoral success can think they can possibly launch campaign posters of the sort they have and not catch the backwash Spot on. Labour too busy playing identity politics have taken their eye off the ball once too often. |
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Post by Handyman on Apr 14, 2023 10:37:13 GMT
Young voters i.e. 18 and 19 year old first time voters will have no idea how bad Labour were last time. Most of the under 30's won't know. Yes that is the problem they do not know Labour's dreadful track record when in power |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 14, 2023 10:38:21 GMT
If we are going back in time then I'd rather the 60's or 70's - certainly not the New Labour years with their illegal wars and throwing open the doors to mass immigration.
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