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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 7:34:53 GMT
...In fact I would go as far as saying those who assume to find a connection between a rag doll and racial groups are in fact race baiters and are the racists themselves. Indeed. If someone says or does something in all innocence and someone else perceives it as racist, which one is the actual racist? I'll give a real life example: In one of my workplaces someone was challenged for describing a well-meaning colleague as a "Good egg". This was challenged on the basis that in rhyming slang, "Egg and spoon" rhymes with "Coon". Well that was a new one on me, I have to say. (I mean, who the hell speaks rhyming slang these days - assuming that was even true back in the day?). Clearly, our faux-offended friend had to dig deep for that racial epithet. Raising the question of who actually had the racist thought? And I suggest that it wasn't the innocent describing their chum as a "Good egg". Just like those lefty racists were up in arms when one of their own, Danny Baker, described the Royal family as "Performing monkeys". He's been doing that same tired old schtick for years, with the leftard's approval, but now one of the royals is mixed race and suddenly Baker's a racist. Well, he is if you conflate black people with monkeys - which many on the left clearly do. The likes of Shrieky doth protest too much - because they are actually the racists. They're just too dim to realise it. I have awoken to numerous notifications from all the usual suspects on this one, all too numerous to respond to in the short time I have before work. Suffice it to say that I note one or two common themes, notably the silly assertion that those of us who call out racism are actually the racist ones. Which is a rather Orwellian distortion, albeit a predictable and amusing one. Another point made which has a little more validity to it is that race based comments by non whites are laughed off much more readily than racist comments by whites. This has a certain history behind it in that in the past much of the racism in this country was directed by whites against non-whites and even certain fellow whites (eg the Irish). With much of society having recognised the wrong in that there is naturally an oversensitivity towards any hint of racist language by whites in a way that there isn't so much by other groups. But of course, those who want to champion the notion of unfair racism towards whites can pounce on this to serve their own agenda and will do so eagerly. But where they are really coming from in some cases is demonstrated by the fact that one of the usual suspects here has in another thread championed the white racist regime of Ian Smith in Rhodesia. So racism clearly exists below the surface with some of you. Anyway, due to a heavy workload this week I may well bow out of this one and leave you all to rant at each other about woke bollocks. It is an issue guaranteed to generate much frothing at the mouth, much grotesque exaggeration and distortion, much exaggerated language, but very little inciteful thought from most of you, so with limited time to spare I may limit myself to more fruitful discussions than this nonsense. The field is yours.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2023 8:13:07 GMT
Wrong Thread.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 11, 2023 10:14:26 GMT
Indeed. If someone says or does something in all innocence and someone else perceives it as racist, which one is the actual racist? I'll give a real life example: In one of my workplaces someone was challenged for describing a well-meaning colleague as a "Good egg". This was challenged on the basis that in rhyming slang, "Egg and spoon" rhymes with "Coon". Well that was a new one on me, I have to say. (I mean, who the hell speaks rhyming slang these days - assuming that was even true back in the day?). Clearly, our faux-offended friend had to dig deep for that racial epithet. Raising the question of who actually had the racist thought? And I suggest that it wasn't the innocent describing their chum as a "Good egg". Just like those lefty racists were up in arms when one of their own, Danny Baker, described the Royal family as "Performing monkeys". He's been doing that same tired old schtick for years, with the leftard's approval, but now one of the royals is mixed race and suddenly Baker's a racist. Well, he is if you conflate black people with monkeys - which many on the left clearly do. The likes of Shrieky doth protest too much - because they are actually the racists. They're just too dim to realise it. That's because people like yourself actively seek out racism on behalf of someone else. It makes you feel good about yourself. When in fact, people like yourself are as much of a problem as genuine racists. This comment is unadulterated rubbish. White people don't have the privilege of playing the 'race card' every time someone looks at them the wrong way. If the 'boy who cried racist' starts to become 'laughed-off' it is because 'other' people have become sick and tired of what was once a legitimate concern. White people have become conditioned to 'victimhood mentality' that is doesn't pull on the heart strings for many anymore because too many instances are used as vexatious complaints. And the same would happen in China, India, Japan or elsewhere where there is a majority. It's simply mathematical 'chance' where an overwhelming majority of an ethnic group would direct their ire at a minority (whether right or wrong). This isn't some unique white-British phenomenon that people like you would have us believe.
You have no moral leg to stand on when you're "oversensitive" towards any "hint" of racist language by white folk when that same level of sensitivity is returned in the same guise. You cannot make a two-tier level of racism where white people's use of language is under the microscope more than any other group. That is why I believe people like yourself have undone the social fabric, harmony and progression of racial integration as much as genuine racists. You are a cancer on society hellbent on being "oversensitive" towards language used by white people, to the extent I believe people like yourself are actively on the look out to be offended on behalf of someone else. You are no better than the people you deride.The frothing at the mouth and grotesque exaggeration has been undertaken historically by those looking to be perpetually offended on behalf of others. You now moan, when you've conditioned and modelled to society through your faux-outrage on how to behave when you've suddenly become offended.
If you actually left the field for good, society would progress onwards. But idiots like you need an ore to stoke division.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 10:34:55 GMT
To be fair, a thread like this is bound to trigger the far-left lying creeps. It's possible to ignore the race-baiter and address the disgrace that is the policing that arrested the soft toys instead.
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 10:43:25 GMT
Anyone who says those gollies weren't there in a public place to make a racial point is either a liar or stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2023 10:50:49 GMT
People who support police action over fluffy toys are seriously deranged. How the police allowed themselves to become a far-left political force is something all sane people should be asking.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2023 10:53:15 GMT
Anyone who says those gollies weren't there in a public place to make a racial point is either a liar or stupid. What racial point. Anyone who finds a bloody Golliwog offensive shout be certified.
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 10:55:00 GMT
So if they were fluffy toys depicting sexual assault would their fluffiness make them exempt from criticism? No
The police reaction was of course absurd but so was this display of emblems of racism in a public place
If you want a collection of gollies (and as it happens I have a fair few golly badges) then keep them in your own home.
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 10:57:55 GMT
Anyone who says those gollies weren't there in a public place to make a racial point is either a liar or stupid. What racial point. Anyone who finds a bloody Golliwog offensive shout be certified. Oh the irony Rightly or wrongly, golliwogs long ago became instruments of racial caricaturism
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 11, 2023 10:58:45 GMT
Anyone who says those gollies weren't there in a public place to make a racial point is either a liar or stupid. What an idiotic suggestion.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Apr 11, 2023 10:59:39 GMT
So if they were fluffy toys depicting sexual assault would their fluffiness make them exempt from criticism? No The police reaction was of course absurd but so was this display of emblems of racism in a public placeIf you want a collection of gollies (and as it happens I have a fair few golly badges) then keep them in your own home. Absolute whataboutery. Honestly Steve, have you lost the plot completely?
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 11, 2023 10:59:56 GMT
Anyone who says those gollies weren't there in a public place to make a racial point is either a liar or stupid. People who believe they can read the thoughts and motivations of others ARE stupid.
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 11, 2023 11:00:18 GMT
Anyone who says those gollies weren't there in a public place to make a racial point is either a liar or stupid. What an idiotic suggestion. He's looking for attention.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 11, 2023 11:00:26 GMT
What racial point. Anyone who finds a bloody Golliwog offensive shout be certified. Oh the irony Rightly or wrongly, golliwogs long ago became instruments of racial caricaturismDeemed by who?
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Post by Steve on Apr 11, 2023 11:01:28 GMT
So if they were fluffy toys depicting sexual assault would their fluffiness make them exempt from criticism? No The police reaction was of course absurd but so was this display of emblems of racism in a public placeIf you want a collection of gollies (and as it happens I have a fair few golly badges) then keep them in your own home. Absolute whataboutery. Honestly Steve, have you lost the plot completely? FFS Middle are you really arguing that a Public House isn't a public space?
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