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Post by patman post on Apr 9, 2023 11:12:56 GMT
There’s a growing demand that older drivers need regular testing and physical checks.
I heard on Times Radio this morning the there is now evidence that the age group of drivers with the most collisions is from 86 up. They push the 17 to 25 age group into second place.
Eyesight, hearing, reaction times and the ability to turn the head left and right seem appropriate things to be checked. But should there also be a driving test and questions on the Highway Code — or could those be undertaken at consoles at central locations?
Interest and comment on roads and road users is growing in the UK — but there seems little informed debate about the rapidly increasing number of electric bikes, trikes, and scooters on the road and pavement…
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Post by Steve on Apr 9, 2023 12:01:24 GMT
Probably some sort of 'is he'she gaga' check needed FWIW prompted by your OP I looked up the actual figures behind that Times radio report: Road casualties by age and gender seems there is a real problem |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 9, 2023 13:52:10 GMT
Probably some sort of 'is he'she gaga' check needed FWIW prompted by your OP I looked up the actual figures behind that Times radio report: Road casualties by age and gender seems there is a real problem Bloody hell remnants will have a hard time. Half the buggers cannot see to the end of their hooters. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 9, 2023 14:43:35 GMT
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 9, 2023 14:49:45 GMT
There’s a growing demand that older drivers need regular testing and physical checks. I heard on Times Radio this morning the there is now evidence that the age group of drivers with the most collisions is from 86 up. They push the 17 to 25 age group into second place. Eyesight, hearing, reaction times and the ability to turn the head left and right seem appropriate things to be checked. But should there also be a driving test and questions on the Highway Code — or could those be undertaken at consoles at central locations? Interest and comment on roads and road users is growing in the UK — but there seems little informed debate about the rapidly increasing number of electric bikes, trikes, and scooters on the road and pavement… I listened to the same Item on Times Radio this morning, and I have to say, what Quentin Wilson said was, misleading. The elderly may have more collisions but unlike the 17 to 21 male age group the type of collision OAP's are involved in tend to be low speed minor collisions. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 9, 2023 14:54:28 GMT
If you take your time , drive smoothly and keep to the speed limit there is always some twat tailgating you . Not many of those are old people .
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Post by patman post on Apr 9, 2023 15:51:08 GMT
That's misleading. If it's meant as an argument against 85-year-olds needing to be tested, the report did say that the safest group were in their 70's, while those over 86 had 40% (I'm sure it wasn't 14%) more collisions than 17 to 25-year-olds.
Also, more collisions at any speed seems a far indicator of competence and safety.
Also, IAM Road Smart (a champion for older drivers) said way back in 2019: “GPs should also be able to prescribe a driving assessment where they think it appropriate and these, in time, could become compulsory for drivers over 85.”...
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Post by Toreador on Apr 9, 2023 16:44:29 GMT
That's misleading. If it's meant as an argument against 85-year-olds needing to be tested, the report did say that the safest group were in their 70's, while those over 86 had 40% (I'm sure it wasn't 14%) more collisions than 17 to 25-year-olds.
Also, more collisions at any speed seems a far indicator of competence and safety.
Also, IAM Road Smart (a champion for older drivers) said way back in 2019: “GPs should also be able to prescribe a driving assessment where they think it appropriate and these, in time, could become compulsory for drivers over 85.”...
Someone said to me, a few days ago, you drive to fast, my answer was that he drives too slow, He's about 65, I'm 86 and apart from one minor shunt when the guy in front stalled pulling away from a roundabout, I've never been involved in an accident. If the sign says 60mph, road conditions permitting, that's the speed at which I drive unless I'm slowed down by those who want to dawdle. |
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 9, 2023 16:55:33 GMT
That's misleading. If it's meant as an argument against 85-year-olds needing to be tested, the report did say that the safest group were in their 70's, while those over 86 had 40% (I'm sure it wasn't 14%) more collisions than 17 to 25-year-olds.
Also, more collisions at any speed seems a far indicator of competence and safety. Well given that the insurance industry charge lower premiums for retired drivers compared to 17 to 25 year olds, I think it's pretty clear who the safest cohort are.. |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 9, 2023 17:16:43 GMT
There may be case for everyone to retake a driving test every few years .
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Post by patman post on Apr 9, 2023 17:18:17 GMT
That's misleading. If it's meant as an argument against 85-year-olds needing to be tested, the report did say that the safest group were in their 70's, while those over 86 had 40% (I'm sure it wasn't 14%) more collisions than 17 to 25-year-olds.
Also, more collisions at any speed seems a far indicator of competence and safety.
Also, IAM Road Smart (a champion for older drivers) said way back in 2019: “GPs should also be able to prescribe a driving assessment where they think it appropriate and these, in time, could become compulsory for drivers over 85.”...
Someone said to me, a few days ago, you drive to fast, my answer was that he drives too slow, He's about 65, I'm 86 and apart from one minor shunt when the guy in front stalled pulling away from a roundabout, I've never been involved in an accident. If the sign says 60mph, road conditions permitting, that's the speed at which I drive unless I'm slowed down by those who want to dawdle. So you hadn't left enough room and weren't paying enough attention. That may or may not be due to age impairment, but testing would find out if that was likely... |
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Post by patman post on Apr 9, 2023 17:22:45 GMT
That's misleading. If it's meant as an argument against 85-year-olds needing to be tested, the report did say that the safest group were in their 70's, while those over 86 had 40% (I'm sure it wasn't 14%) more collisions than 17 to 25-year-olds.
Also, more collisions at any speed seems a far indicator of competence and safety. Well given that the insurance industry charge lower premiums for retired drivers compared to 17 to 25 year olds, I think it's pretty clear who the safest cohort are.. Retirement age is mid 60's, and the report did day those in their 70's were the safest, so maybe it's drivers in their seventies that are skewing the stats favourably for the rest of the over sixties... |
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Post by patman post on Apr 9, 2023 17:25:12 GMT
There may be case for everyone to retake a driving test every few years . Some insurance companies offer reduced premiums for drivers who take further instruction and appraisal... |
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Post by Bentley on Apr 9, 2023 17:31:10 GMT
There may be case for everyone to retake a driving test every few years . Some insurance companies offer reduced premiums for drivers who take further instruction and appraisal... I did look at the advanced driver course but it seemed a bit expensive. |
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Post by patman post on Apr 9, 2023 18:03:24 GMT
Some insurance companies offer reduced premiums for drivers who take further instruction and appraisal... I did look at the advanced driver course but it seemed a bit expensive. Advanced driving qualification from IAM Road Smart (formerly the Institute of Advanced Motorists) is about £175, but it also offers a mature driver review at about £75. Seems reasonable... |
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