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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 20, 2022 21:40:33 GMT
Those two anarchists who climbed the QE2 bridge and caused chaos for a couple of days have been charged, with 'committing a public nuisance', bit like ringing someone's doorbell and running off. Which means any punishment will be extremely light and will certainly not reflect the chaos they caused. But here's the thing, it was the police who closed the bridge which is a vital M25 link, why did they close it? It's not such a daft question. The protestors were about 300ft up. If they had fallen the fact that traffic was crossing the bridge would have made not a jot of difference to their immediate demise. metro.co.uk/2022/10/19/just-stop-oil-protesters-who-closed-dartford-crossing-are-charged-17596360/ |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2022 9:52:04 GMT
Those two anarchists who climbed the QE2 bridge and caused chaos for a couple of days have been charged, with 'committing a public nuisance', bit like ringing someone's doorbell and running off. Which means any punishment will be extremely light and will certainly not reflect the chaos they caused. But here's the thing, it was the police who closed the bridge which is a vital M25 link, why did they close it? It's not such a daft question. The protestors were about 300ft up. If they had fallen the fact that traffic was crossing the bridge would have made not a jot of difference to their immediate demise. metro.co.uk/2022/10/19/just-stop-oil-protesters-who-closed-dartford-crossing-are-charged-17596360/No, but it might make a big difference to someone having a body drop through the windscreen at 50 mph. The Police are there to protect life and property, not leave us in danger. I'd like to know why we could not shoot them down, though.  |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 21, 2022 10:26:15 GMT
Those two anarchists who climbed the QE2 bridge and caused chaos for a couple of days have been charged, with 'committing a public nuisance', bit like ringing someone's doorbell and running off. Which means any punishment will be extremely light and will certainly not reflect the chaos they caused. But here's the thing, it was the police who closed the bridge which is a vital M25 link, why did they close it? It's not such a daft question. The protestors were about 300ft up. If they had fallen the fact that traffic was crossing the bridge would have made not a jot of difference to their immediate demise. metro.co.uk/2022/10/19/just-stop-oil-protesters-who-closed-dartford-crossing-are-charged-17596360/No, but it might make a big difference to someone having a body drop through the windscreen at 50 mph. The Police are there to protect life and property, not leave us in danger. I'd like to know why we could not shoot them down, though. They tried....  |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 21, 2022 11:16:01 GMT
Those two anarchists who climbed the QE2 bridge and caused chaos for a couple of days have been charged, with 'committing a public nuisance', bit like ringing someone's doorbell and running off. Which means any punishment will be extremely light and will certainly not reflect the chaos they caused. But here's the thing, it was the police who closed the bridge which is a vital M25 link, why did they close it? It's not such a daft question. The protestors were about 300ft up. If they had fallen the fact that traffic was crossing the bridge would have made not a jot of difference to their immediate demise. metro.co.uk/2022/10/19/just-stop-oil-protesters-who-closed-dartford-crossing-are-charged-17596360/No, but it might make a big difference to someone having a body drop through the windscreen at 50 mph. The Police are there to protect life and property, not leave us in danger. I'd like to know why we could not shoot them down, though. All right men when I blow my whistle all fire at Will, which ones called Will Sarge  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 5:51:39 GMT
You people do realise that you are being played by the Tories don't you?
There is a bill going through parliament, as we speak, to limit the actions that protesters can take.
Too noisy, blocking traffic, carrying placards and the punishment can be curfew with tags and restricted liberty.
The police have plenty of powers to stop nuisance protesters, obstruction, public endangerment, damaging property.
One has to wonder why a new bill that reduces or in some cases will ban protests is needed.
Be careful what you wish for.
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Post by Morgan on Oct 29, 2022 7:04:49 GMT
No one is saying that people shouldn't be allowed to protest. But they should not be allowed to interfere with other people going about their lawful business. Most of us need to get from A to B during the working day. Why should these extremists be allowed to interfere with that? If I delayed their getting to work (If any of them actually work that is.) and they couldn't earn they would soon be moaning. They should be prosecuted and heavily fined to compensate those who lose by their actions.
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 29, 2022 7:23:02 GMT
You people do realise that you are being played by the Tories don't you? There is a bill going through parliament, as we speak, to limit the actions that protesters can take. Too noisy, blocking traffic, carrying placards and the punishment can be curfew with tags and restricted liberty. The police have plenty of powers to stop nuisance protesters, obstruction, public endangerment, damaging property. One has to wonder why a new bill that reduces or in some cases will ban protests is needed. Be careful what you wish for. Obstruction has very limited powers and public endangerment doesn't exist in UK Law.
I support the new bill. It's high time these idiots were put back in their box.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 7:30:33 GMT
You people do realise that you are being played by the Tories don't you? There is a bill going through parliament, as we speak, to limit the actions that protesters can take. Too noisy, blocking traffic, carrying placards and the punishment can be curfew with tags and restricted liberty. The police have plenty of powers to stop nuisance protesters, obstruction, public endangerment, damaging property. One has to wonder why a new bill that reduces or in some cases will ban protests is needed. Be careful what you wish for. Obstruction has very limited powers and public endangerment doesn't exist in UK Law.
I support the new bill. It's high time these idiots were put back in their box.
Public order act then. The point is the police have the powers but don't appear to use them. You support a dictatorship then. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 7:31:52 GMT
No one is saying that people shouldn't be allowed to protest. But they should not be allowed to interfere with other people going about their lawful business. Most of us need to get from A to B during the working day. Why should these extremists be allowed to interfere with that? If I delayed their getting to work (If any of them actually work that is.) and they couldn't earn they would soon be moaning. They should be prosecuted and heavily fined to compensate those who lose by their actions. I agree but the laws are in place already. The new laws will affect everyone's civil liberties. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 29, 2022 7:32:46 GMT
The police actually have very limited powers to deal with these people. And the protestors know it, which is exactly why they “Protest” using the methods that they do: Maximum disruption, minimum legal penalty. Dictatorship?! LOL!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 8:00:24 GMT
The police actually have very limited powers to deal with these people. And the protestors know it, which is exactly why they “Protest” using the methods that they do: Maximum disruption, minimum legal penalty. Dictatorship?! LOL! Don't talk daft. It is impossible for the police to arrest everyone at a riot, never mind a peaceful demonstration. The police, at present, can only arrest someone who is committing a crime or is found later to have committed a crime, as it should be. This bill is introducing laws that will empower the police to arrest people if they deem them to noisy, or are carrying placards, or are crossing the road. The chumps on top of the bridge could have been arrested on mental health grounds as suicide is still a crime. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 29, 2022 8:14:18 GMT
Mate, you haven't got a scooby.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 11:39:55 GMT
Mate, you haven't got a scooby. Are you seriously saying the police cannot arrest someone they see committing a crime because they are demonstrators. That's just plain stupid. |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 29, 2022 14:35:10 GMT
Mate, you haven't got a scooby. Are you seriously saying the police cannot arrest someone they see committing a crime because they are demonstrators. That's just plain stupid. As the Mets new Commissioner explained to the London Assembly, they have to keep in mind that we all have the right to protest peacefully a right the Police have to uphold, even though these protests have not been approved and are at random they have to wait until there is sufficient evidence to warrant arresting the protesters, enough in order that the CPS can actually charge them. Those that glue themselves to the road, or chain themselves together inside a metal tube are arrested when they separate them or unglue them are fair game, but it takes to free them, so far about 600 have been arrested in London so far |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2022 14:37:53 GMT
Are you seriously saying the police cannot arrest someone they see committing a crime because they are demonstrators. That's just plain stupid. As the Mets new Commissioner explained to the London Assembly, they have to keep in mind that we all have the right to protest peacefully a right the Police have to uphold, even though these protests have not been approved and are at random they have to wait until there is sufficient evidence to warrant arresting the protesters, enough in order that the CPS can actually charge them. Those that glue themselves to the road, or chain themselves together inside a metal tube are arrested when they separate them or unglue them are fair game, but it takes to free them, so far about 600 have been arrested in London so far We do not have the right to commit a crime. |
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