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Post by Ripley on Apr 6, 2023 20:55:03 GMT
He also shit himself when he met the pope FFS.....That was all hushed up by his administration but there were many there that saw what happened and were prepared to swear on oath to the fact. The bloke a bloody nutter and should be in a frigging care home rather than presiding over the USA. Do you have a link for that? |
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Post by thescotsman on Apr 6, 2023 20:58:56 GMT
okay...I just think Trump is a galactically stupid, ignorant, dangerously corrupt traitor to the US, was right up Putin's arsehole and that Putin would have invaded Ukraine and that Trump would have been sucking Putin's dick as the troops went over the border...so...Biden may be old and rickerty and creaking at the seams but he's an order of magnitude better than Trump has ever been...
You're wrong, Trump is streetwise, not many Presidents have been streetwise, ok he's got a big ego, but when you work your way from the bottom to the top some times that happens, he's far from stupid, and he's got people weighed up.
As for Biden and his criminal family including Hunter, who's been protected by a media blackout on his dealings with hookers and his substance abuse, not to mention his dodgy dealings with Russian oligarch business associates, if anyone thinks Trump is Corrupt you aint seen nothing compared to the Biden mafia.
...sorry....Trump....work his way to the top...this is Donald Trump we're talking of? |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 6, 2023 21:00:37 GMT
Everyone has the right to their own opinion..... Trump who had already negotiated a strategic withdrawal with the Taliban in Afghanistan which would have meant that US and UK forces wuld have pulled out over a period of time. But when the dribbling old fart took the helm he whithdrew the forces in a few short days leaving the Taliban with billions of dollars worth of warstock icluding an airforce FFS. Any US president worth their salt would have remebered the same happing in Vietnam and billions of dollars worth of arms etc ending up in the enemys hands just hours after the US pulled out. And the same scenario there was enacted in both Vietnam and Afghanistan where those who had helped the forces were left to survive the best way they could. interesting take...I guess I was under the impression that the withdrawal timetable was dictated by Trump which was why Milley and the rest of the Chiefs went ballistic... Trump had already stated that the withdrawal would span 2 years. In that time all the weapons and warstock could have either been pulled out of Afghanistan or destroyed and the forces would have whithdrew in an organised strategic whithdrawal. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 6, 2023 21:06:45 GMT
You're wrong, Trump is streetwise, not many Presidents have been streetwise, ok he's got a big ego, but when you work your way from the bottom to the top some times that happens, he's far from stupid, and he's got people weighed up.
As for Biden and his criminal family including Hunter, who's been protected by a media blackout on his dealings with hookers and his substance abuse, not to mention his dodgy dealings with Russian oligarch business associates, if anyone thinks Trump is Corrupt you aint seen nothing compared to the Biden mafia.
...sorry....Trump....work his way to the top...this is Donald Trump we're talking of? I think it's safe to assume he started at the bottom compared to some former US Presidents.
Early life
Donald John Trump was born on June 14, 1946, at Jamaica Hospital in the borough of Queens in New York City, the fourth child of Fred Trump, a Bronx-born real estate developer whose parents were German immigrants, and Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, an immigrant from Scotland.
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Post by jonksy on Apr 6, 2023 21:08:32 GMT
You're wrong, Trump is streetwise, not many Presidents have been streetwise, ok he's got a big ego, but when you work your way from the bottom to the top some times that happens, he's far from stupid, and he's got people weighed up.
As for Biden and his criminal family including Hunter, who's been protected by a media blackout on his dealings with hookers and his substance abuse, not to mention his dodgy dealings with Russian oligarch business associates, if anyone thinks Trump is Corrupt you aint seen nothing compared to the Biden mafia.
...sorry....Trump....work his way to the top...this is Donald Trump we're talking of? Trump started at the bottom in his fathers real estate business. Granted not everyone gets to work for their father in multibillion dollar industry but apparently his father was a hard task master and Donald was expected to earn his keep. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 6, 2023 21:09:14 GMT
No, i don’t think that. I think as i said, every president as far back as i can recall cultivated ‘irish roots’ to sway the american irish vote. But he does actually have Irish roots. He visited his Irish family in 2016. He isn't just pretending an affiliation for Ireland so as to win votes. Apparently he has made public that he is Irish throughout his whole career. www.insider.com/joe-biden-irish-heritage-quotes-2021-3 well ok if you say so … but i gotta say that sounds like a first …. |
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Post by thescotsman on Apr 6, 2023 21:23:50 GMT
interesting take...I guess I was under the impression that the withdrawal timetable was dictated by Trump which was why Milley and the rest of the Chiefs went ballistic... Trump had already stated that the withdrawal would span 2 years. In that time all the weapons and warstock could have either been pulled out of Afghanistan or destroyed and the forces would have whithdrew in an organised strategic whithdrawal. 2 years from when....I mean here's a bit from the (A)IG's report to Congress and the Joint Chiefs...
that was from Acting Inspector General U.S. Department of Defense Report, Sean O'Donnell so the agreement was signed on the 29th Feb 2020....it want on to say
so I guess your two years must have been from a date prior to this...was there a previous agreement signed that was superceded....I can't recall one?
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Post by thescotsman on Apr 6, 2023 21:31:58 GMT
...sorry....Trump....work his way to the top...this is Donald Trump we're talking of? Trump started at the bottom in his fathers real estate business. Granted not everyone gets to work for their father in multibillion dollar industry but apparently his father was a hard task master and Donald was expected to earn his keep. ...and that's where he leaned what exactly...? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 6, 2023 21:33:41 GMT
...sorry....Trump....work his way to the top...this is Donald Trump we're talking of? Trump started at the bottom in his fathers real estate business. Granted not everyone gets to work for their father in multibillion dollar industry but apparently his father was a hard task master and Donald was expected to earn his keep. Yes so much so his brother Fred ended up as a Goffa working as a labourer in his fathers real estate business, because his father didn't think he cut the mustard.
Their father was a no nonsense business man.
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Post by thescotsman on Apr 6, 2023 21:37:52 GMT
...sorry....Trump....work his way to the top...this is Donald Trump we're talking of? I think it's safe to assume he started at the bottom compared to some former US Presidents.
...ah....a ringing endorsement....the guy had the brains of a cheese sandwich but at least he worked his way up from the bottom seat at the board room table to fucking Kelly-Anne on the board room table....that sort of what you mean
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 6, 2023 21:45:38 GMT
I think it's safe to assume he started at the bottom compared to some former US Presidents.
...ah....a ringing endorsement....the guy had the brains of a cheese sandwich but at least he worked his way up from the bottom seat at the board room table to fucking Kelly-Anne on the board room table....that sort of what you mean
Errr no I mean he worked his way from the bottom to become one of the most powerful leaders in the World, what is it you don't understand about that 'Fact'?
'that sort of what you mean', is what I mean, like most you are clouded by the 'we must hate Trump' brigade, it's hip to hate Trump, everyone will love you if you say you hate Trump.
Everyone is noticing the A list celebs who chanted this crap about Trump ^^ all seem to be noticeable by their absence, creepy Joe mustn't be living up to their expectations ... 'empty vessels make more noise'.
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Post by thescotsman on Apr 6, 2023 21:56:38 GMT
...ah....a ringing endorsement....the guy had the brains of a cheese sandwich but at least he worked his way up from the bottom seat at the board room table to fucking Kelly-Anne on the board room table....that sort of what you mean
Errr no I mean he worked his way from the bottom to become one of the most powerful leaders in the World, what is it you don't understand about that 'Fact'?
'that sort of what you mean', is what I mean, like most you are clouded by the 'we must hate Trump' brigade, it's hip to hate Trump, everyone will love you if you say you hate Trump.
Everyone is noticing the A list celebs who chanted this crap about Trump ^^ all seem to be noticeable by their absence, creepy Joe mustn't be living up to their expectations ... 'empty vessels make more noise'.
Yeah I got that...which was how he ended up fucking Kellyanne on the board room table...
is it...I didn't know that...I can understand it though |
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Post by Fairsociety on Apr 6, 2023 22:08:17 GMT
Errr no I mean he worked his way from the bottom to become one of the most powerful leaders in the World, what is it you don't understand about that 'Fact'?
'that sort of what you mean', is what I mean, like most you are clouded by the 'we must hate Trump' brigade, it's hip to hate Trump, everyone will love you if you say you hate Trump.
Everyone is noticing the A list celebs who chanted this crap about Trump ^^ all seem to be noticeable by their absence, creepy Joe mustn't be living up to their expectations ... 'empty vessels make more noise'.
Yeah I got that...which was how he ended up fucking Kellyanne on the board room table...
is it...I didn't know that...I can understand it though out of curiosity do you and jaydee sup from the same cauldron, just wondering because you both seem high as kites on some sort of vendettas? ... |
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Post by thescotsman on Apr 6, 2023 22:09:40 GMT
Yeah I got that...which was how he ended up fucking Kellyanne on the board room table...
is it...I didn't know that...I can understand it though out of curiosity do you and jaydee sup from the same cauldron, just wondering because you both seem high as kites on some sort of vendettas? ... ? |
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Post by Ripley on Apr 10, 2023 18:46:45 GMT
..the lads okay....he's supporting the Uke's so he's okay in my book.... And US relations would have been far better with North Korea also. That's because Trump has said he'd have made a deal that allowed Russia to claim parts of Ukraine - something I don't think Ukraine would have agreed to. "Putin was waiting on a "wink" from former U.S. President Donald Trump to seize parts of Ukraine—years before Russia launched a full-scale invasion. Paul Manafort, who headed Trump's campaign for a few months in 2016 and was convicted of fraud and conspiracy charges, worked with Russian and Moscow-backed Ukrainian figures, including Kremlin aide Konstantin Kilimnik "Kilimnik and Manafort formed a close and lasting relationship that would endure to the 2016 U.S. elections and beyond," the Senate Intelligence Committee report said. Manafort "discussed with Kilimnik a peace plan for eastern Ukraine that benefited the Kremlin," the report said. The pair pursued "the pro-Russia Ukraine peace plan Kilimnik had first raised with Manafort" in August 2016 after the election, according to the report. Trump has repeatedly weighed in on how he would handle the ongoing war in Ukraine, saying he could end the war within 24 hours. Last month, Trump signaled that he would have "made a deal" for Moscow to claim parts of Ukraine, had he been in power when the Russian invasion took place. "At worst, I could have made a deal to take over something, you know, there are certain areas that are Russian speaking areas, right, like, but you could have worked a deal.
Written correspondence between former Trump campaign chair Paul Manafort and Kilimnik discussed Putin claiming part of Ukraine, saying that a "wink" from the Republican former president was needed to "make this work."
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/putin-was-waiting-on-wink-from-donald-trump-to-seize-ukraine-author/ar-AA19FPBG?ocid=hpmsn&cvid=f66f5e68f77840a08154eee73e8189c8&ei=15Trump could only have averted the invasion if Ukraine had agreed to give up territory to Russia. Given Ukraine's unflinching response to the invasion, I highly doubt they'd have capitulated. The invasion would have happened anyway, only Trump was never going to send support to Ukraine. He was on Putin's side. |
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