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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 1, 2023 15:16:22 GMT
I think most understand the special relationship to be utter bollox and the reality is they say jump we ask how high. Frankly i don’t give a shit that he isn’t going to be there. And yes, it does mean one less distraction from what the event is actually about. You mean whether Harry is seated with the royals… Ha !!! Good one. But no, let us not muck about, the yanks fought a bloody war to have sod all to do with us. So be it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 15:46:06 GMT
It may surprise posters to know that no U.S President has ever attended the coronation of any British monarch
But U.S delegations have been sent in modern times, the 20th century, to the coronations of Queen Elizabeth, King George VI, King George V, Edward VII.
THe importand leaders of government are those of the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Jamaica and New Zealand, followed by other Commonwealth countries.
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Post by see2 on Apr 1, 2023 16:24:10 GMT
To say it would be a break in tradition is somewhat overstating it don't you think? I mean, we havent had a coronation since 1953 and how many US presidents were invited to coronations prior to that? Look on the bright side mate at least the dribbling old fart won't go arse over tit on the steps of Air Force 1......We wouldn't want that to happen now would we? Uncrossing my fingers......LOL That "dribbling old fart" that kicked Trump's arse LOL If he never achieves anything else he has already done the world a favour.
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Post by thomas on Apr 1, 2023 16:36:36 GMT
I think most understand the special relationship to be utter bollox and the reality is they say jump we ask how high. Frankly i don’t give a shit that he isn’t going to be there. And yes, it does mean one less distraction from what the event is actually about. I agree. But I think there will be quite a few in the US who will disagree with Biden not attending. I know Charles isn't his mum but I think, and in spite of that prat Harry, the British monarchy are still, for the moment anyway, popular in the US. when you say the monarchy , do you mean charlie boy or the institution?
If the monarchy was popular with the yanks , they would never have become a republic.
According to this poll from a couple of years back , charlie boy is one of the most unfavoured people in the royal family with yanks..
But the most ill-regarded member of the British royal family is Charles, Prince of Wales. About half (47%) of Americans hold an unfavorable view of Princess Diana’s ex-husband. Fewer (34%) view him favorably.
Still, it wasn’t a great opening gesture from Charles, who is one of America’s most disliked British royals according to a recent YouGov poll.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 17:14:40 GMT
It may surprise posters to know that no U.S President has ever attended the coronation of any British monarch
But U.S delegations have been sent in modern times, the 20th century, to the coronations of Queen Elizabeth, King George VI, King George V, Edward VII. THe importand leaders of government are those of the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Jamaica and New Zealand, followed by other Commonwealth countries. Doesn't really surprise many posters, as Pacifico told us the same in post number 5 on this thread.
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Post by Toreador on Apr 1, 2023 19:07:55 GMT
It may surprise posters to know that no U.S President has ever attended the coronation of any British monarch
But U.S delegations have been sent in modern times, the 20th century, to the coronations of Queen Elizabeth, King George VI, King George V, Edward VII. THe importand leaders of government are those of the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Jamaica and New Zealand, followed by other Commonwealth countries. Doesn't really surprise many posters, as Pacifico told us the same in post number 5 on this thread. lol....well spotted.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 1, 2023 21:15:54 GMT
It may surprise posters to know that no U.S President has ever attended the coronation of any British monarch
But U.S delegations have been sent in modern times, the 20th century, to the coronations of Queen Elizabeth, King George VI, King George V, Edward VII. THe importand leaders of government are those of the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Jamaica and New Zealand, followed by other Commonwealth countries. Doesn't really surprise many posters, as Pacifico told us the same in post number 5 on this thread. Sid is not the sharpest tool in the box...
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Post by Steve on Apr 2, 2023 13:11:32 GMT
To say it would be a break in tradition is somewhat overstating it don't you think? I mean, we havent had a coronation since 1953 and how many US presidents were invited to coronations prior to that? You do know we've had a fair few coronations since James Monroe (1st POTUS we weren't at war with) in 1817 don't you Maybe not but I promise you the world, the UK and USA all existed for many many years before you were born
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Post by Ripley on Apr 2, 2023 15:12:36 GMT
I think most understand the special relationship to be utter bollox and the reality is they say jump we ask how high. Frankly i don’t give a shit that he isn’t going to be there. And yes, it does mean one less distraction from what the event is actually about. I agree. But I think there will be quite a few in the US who will disagree with Biden not attending. I know Charles isn't his mum but I think, and in spite of that prat Harry, the British monarchy are still, for the moment anyway, popular in the US. What possible difference would American public opinion make? Charles has no role in the US, and US heads of state don't poll the people on their foreign travel decisions. The royal family enjoys the same sort of following with the American people as a soap opera.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 2, 2023 21:02:45 GMT
It may surprise posters to know that no U.S President has ever attended the coronation of any British monarch But U.S delegations have been sent in modern times, the 20th century, to the coronations of Queen Elizabeth, King George VI, King George V, Edward VII. THe importand leaders of government are those of the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada, Jamaica and New Zealand, followed by other Commonwealth countries. to be fair, there have inly been seven since the US went to war to split from us and i suspect that the first couple after 1776 were not exactly safe places for a US President to be…,
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 2, 2023 21:10:50 GMT
I agree. But I think there will be quite a few in the US who will disagree with Biden not attending. I know Charles isn't his mum but I think, and in spite of that prat Harry, the British monarchy are still, for the moment anyway, popular in the US. What possible difference would American public opinion make?... I suspect simply that the US public or a goodly number like the UK for whatever reason and if they see this as a deliberate snub … Nothing else really makes sense
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Post by Ripley on Apr 2, 2023 21:15:27 GMT
What possible difference would American public opinion make?... I suspect simply that the US public or a goodly number like the UK for whatever reason and if they see this as a deliberate snub … Nothing else really makes sense I just don't see how public opinion would influence the travel decisions of heads of state one way or the other. Do you keep track of which coronations, weddings and funerals the monarch attends? Of course not.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2023 21:21:02 GMT
I couldn't care less whether Joe Biden attends the coronation or not.
If that is the worst thing anyone has to worry about then they are lucky indeed.
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Post by wapentake on Apr 2, 2023 21:59:24 GMT
Look on the bright side mate at least the dribbling old fart won't go arse over tit on the steps of Air Force 1......We wouldn't want that to happen now would we? Uncrossing my fingers......LOL Actually, that may have something to do with it. Behind the scenes his doctor may have advised him against the trip, he is an old man and at times less than compos. He’s an old man sure and so is Charlie,should’ve skipped and gone to William.
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Post by johnofgwent on Apr 3, 2023 6:47:55 GMT
Actually, that may have something to do with it. Behind the scenes his doctor may have advised him against the trip, he is an old man and at times less than compos. He’s an old man sure and so is Charlie,should’ve skipped and gone to William. Now THAT i have been saying for a VERY long time and while many may disagree (it seems half of arsebook came to piss on my right to say that when i did) none could hive me a real response to the statement made by another European Royal just abdicated that the throne he had just handed over needed to be handed to a YOUNG man. What does it say to my grand daughter’s generation that the throne is handed to a bloke ten years older than her grandad when it should have been handed to someone her mum’s age.
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