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Post by zanygame on Apr 1, 2023 12:38:01 GMT
Why don't you stop telling me what I'm saying and say something yourself. Or is all you've got to say is that everyone else is crap and you are good at jeering from the side lines. No not everyone just pointing out that you surely lack wisdom. I had something to say they are all crap and have all made every situation worse. Which in actual fact most people agree with. And you would do so much better I expect. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 1, 2023 13:58:03 GMT
No not everyone just pointing out that you surely lack wisdom. I had something to say they are all crap and have all made every situation worse. Which in actual fact most people agree with. And you would do so much better I expect. Its not about me though is it? its about how hopeless cases they are. Which it seems you have somehow failed to notice in your rush to create even more of it. Which does seem a little odd in my opinion when pretty much everyone else has noticed. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 1, 2023 14:12:58 GMT
And you would do so much better I expect. Its not about me though is it? its about how hopeless cases they are. Which it seems you have somehow failed to notice in your rush to create even more of it. Which does seem a little odd in my opinion when pretty much everyone else has noticed. Just more realistic than you. I'm picking the best choices from what's available. You are sitting on the edge sneering at the mistakes but with nothing better to offer. So the alternative? No government? Anarchy ? |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 1, 2023 14:14:53 GMT
Its not about me though is it? its about how hopeless cases they are. Which it seems you have somehow failed to notice in your rush to create even more of it. Which does seem a little odd in my opinion when pretty much everyone else has noticed. Just more realistic than you. I'm picking the best choices from what's available. You are sitting on the edge sneering at the mistakes but with nothing better to offer. So the alternative? No government? Anarchy ? You mean we all should decide which crap suits you best, I think not, close the place down and start afresh with direct democracy. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 1, 2023 14:33:32 GMT
Just more realistic than you. I'm picking the best choices from what's available. You are sitting on the edge sneering at the mistakes but with nothing better to offer. So the alternative? No government? Anarchy ? You mean we all should decide which crap suits you best, I think not, close the place down and start afresh with direct democracy. Direct democracy? So we vote on everything? |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 1, 2023 14:35:35 GMT
You mean we all should decide which crap suits you best, I think not, close the place down and start afresh with direct democracy. Direct democracy? So we vote on everything? I hadn't thought of it like that of course, only stopping them making disastrous major policy decisions on behalf of an electorate without consent. Unless you now think they are not even capable of making minor changes of policy either. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2023 15:07:28 GMT
Well it couldn't have been that much of a lie as the EU were mandating austerity for the UK at that time. Are you really as thick as your posts suggest or is this deliberate obtuseness on your part. The reason the all the money in the Banks disappeared across the Western economies in 2008, was not NL's fault. According to New Labour and Blair, the boom was down to their fantastic leadership. Apparently the bust was nothing to do with Brown's "prudent" mishandling of the economy and poor regulation of the banks. I don't believe New Labour. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 1, 2023 15:37:06 GMT
Direct democracy? So we vote on everything? I hadn't thought of it like that of course, only stopping them making disastrous major policy decisions on behalf of an electorate without consent. Unless you now think they are not even capable of making minor changes of policy either. Then we agree on that point. I would like manifesto promises to be mandatory. Only changeable by consultation and vote by the public. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 1, 2023 15:40:20 GMT
I hadn't thought of it like that of course, only stopping them making disastrous major policy decisions on behalf of an electorate without consent. Unless you now think they are not even capable of making minor changes of policy either. Then we agree on that point. I would like manifesto promises to be mandatory. Only changeable by consultation and vote by the public. I will keep it in mind Zany. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 1, 2023 15:42:34 GMT
Are you really as thick as your posts suggest or is this deliberate obtuseness on your part. The reason the all the money in the Banks disappeared across the Western economies in 2008, was not NL's fault. According to New Labour and Blair, the boom was down to their fantastic leadership. Apparently the bust was nothing to do with Brown's "prudent" mishandling of the economy and poor regulation of the banks. I don't believe New Labour. Bollox. They never claimed a boom. Indeed they tried to stop boom and bust by making it the BofE's job to control interest rates. Everyone bar you knows the 2008 banking crises was a banking crises. That it was caused by injudicious lending in the United States. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 1, 2023 15:47:40 GMT
Then we agree on that point. I would like manifesto promises to be mandatory. Only changeable by consultation and vote by the public. I will keep it in mind Zany. Thank you. It would be nice not to be boxed and stereotyped for a change Though you have to bear in mind that I "surely lack wisdom." 😋 |
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Post by see2 on Apr 1, 2023 15:53:19 GMT
Lol. That's what you are saying. I'm saying New Labour ran the budget really well as can be seen. The 2008 world banking crash reversed much of their work and put the deficit back up to Tory levels.13 years of Austerity from the Tories have put us in a strong position for another 13 years of Deficit. No thanks The 3 years of negative borrowing at the start of the Labour administration were when they were following Tory spending plans - as soon as they started following their own economic policy borrowing ballooned. And eventually what they handed over to the incoming Government in 2010 was a disaster zone that took 10 years to get a grip on. I would think it must be difficult for you to keep your posts so obtuse all of the time, unless it comes naturally that is. IMO your posts suggest you are in serious need of a long rest while you get your act back into some sort of recognisable shape. |
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Post by sheepy on Apr 1, 2023 16:10:52 GMT
I will keep it in mind Zany. Thank you. It would be nice not to be boxed and stereotyped for a change Though you have to bear in mind that I "surely lack wisdom." 😋They will have to get over 50% of the electorate to vote for any of their made up as they go along manifestos first.  |
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Post by see2 on Apr 1, 2023 16:13:44 GMT
Are you really as thick as your posts suggest or is this deliberate obtuseness on your part. The reason the all the money in the Banks disappeared across the Western economies in 2008, was not NL's fault. According to New Labour and Blair, the boom was down to their fantastic leadership. Apparently the bust was nothing to do with Brown's "prudent" mishandling of the economy and poor regulation of the banks. I don't believe New Labour. I do believe in your ability to distort reality. Your posted mishandling of the truth ^^^ is quite remarkable. Much of the "boom" and the good work done under NL was down to their good intentions and the mountains of cash flowing through the banks, along with their eradication of previous governments use of 'boom and bust' in order to control our internal economy. It is reasonably arguable that up to 90% of the financial problems were caused by the International financial meltdown that rubbished the best financial plans of chancellors across the Western Economies. And causing a G20 meeting in 2010 to discuss the way forward in dealing with it. You might ignore the affects of the meltdown but I'm sure you are fully aware that it happened even though you deliberately missed mentioning it in your post. |
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Post by zanygame on Apr 1, 2023 16:39:11 GMT
Thank you. It would be nice not to be boxed and stereotyped for a change Though you have to bear in mind that I "surely lack wisdom." 😋They will have to get over 50% of the electorate to vote for any of their made up as they go along manifestos first. Yeah, but it should stop some of the wilder manifesto policies if they know they're going to be held to book if they can't achieve them. No more promises of lowering taxes while increasing spend. Or promises of increasing spending while lowering taxes. If an elected party failed to carry out its manifesto promises within the time scale (also required) then their failure would be put to public vote. If the public voted against them then a new election is called. |
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