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Post by Toreador on Apr 4, 2023 6:14:28 GMT
That being the case it seems a little silly to be whining about not being let in when it suits you. I don't want to be let in. |
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Post by Dan Dare on Apr 4, 2023 6:18:07 GMT
Probably as well.
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 4, 2023 6:31:23 GMT
It must be a first among free countries that it is easier to get into it than to get out of it.
Are you sure this is what controlling your own borders means?
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 4, 2023 6:55:08 GMT
"Traveling around Europe prior to 1992 was easy." It still is. As long as you have an EU passport or identity card. If you're Russian, Moldovan or British it can be a little more challenging.
But Out means Out, right?
Nothing has changed - we are in exactly the same situation as we were in 1992 and I dont recall a lot of wailing then. People went for holiday or business to other european countries without a lot of drama. |
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Post by buccaneer on Apr 4, 2023 8:53:50 GMT
Curiously enough, on arrival by air last week I encountered a choice of passport line: UK plus the USA, Japan and sundry others (including the EU) who could use the machines, and everybody else who had to present themselves to an immigration officer. On returning to France there were also two queues, one of which was for EU/EEA only. The other one was for aforesaid Russians, Moldovans, (non-resident) Britons and everybody else. That's just terrible. Life cannot go on like that, such a tragedy. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 4, 2023 10:37:46 GMT
Dan, we don't need to be in a political union with the EU to travel around it and have holidays.
Spain didn't join the EEC until 1985, the package holiday boom to Spain began in the 1960's with the advent of widely available cheap air travel.
Spain was still a dictatorship when my father's generation started holidaying in Majorca.
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Post by Pacifico on Apr 4, 2023 11:17:31 GMT
Dan, we don't need to be in a political union with the EU to travel around it and have holidays. Spain didn't join the EEC until 1985, the package holiday boom to Spain began in the 1960's with the advent of widely available cheap air travel. Spain was still a dictatorship when my father's generation started holidaying in Majorca. I remember going on holiday to Spain when Franco was still alive - somehow we managed to get in and out of the country OK..  |
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Post by oracle75 on Apr 4, 2023 11:48:48 GMT
I am glad the UK is out too.
Now the rest of us can get on without all those whiney opt outs and vetoes.
And at least the EU controls its borders.
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 6, 2023 16:41:30 GMT
"Traveling around Europe prior to 1992 was easy." It still is. As long as you have an EU passport or identity card. If you're Russian, Moldovan or British it can be a little more challenging.
But Out means Out, right?
Dan, thanks to the removal of borders travelling around Europe today is indeed easy for everyone, including criminals, terrorists, people traffickers and illegals. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 6, 2023 16:43:35 GMT
I am glad the UK is out too. Now the rest of us can get on without all those whiney opt outs and vetoes. And at least the EU controls its borders. LOL, "the EU controls it's borders"? Are you pulling on one of those Jamaican woodbines oracle? |
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Post by wapentake on Apr 6, 2023 17:54:32 GMT
I am glad the UK is out too. Now the rest of us can get on without all those whiney opt outs and vetoes. And at least the EU controls its borders. LOL, "the EU controls its borders"? Are you pulling on one of those Jamaican woodbines oracle? Showing your age,woodbines lol. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 6, 2023 18:18:20 GMT
LOL, "the EU controls its borders"? Are you pulling on one of those Jamaican woodbines oracle? Showing your age,woodbines lol. When I smoked, I was a Players No6 man.  |
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Post by wapentake on Apr 6, 2023 18:34:05 GMT
Showing your age,woodbines lol. When I smoked, I was a Players No6 man. B&H 60 a day gave up 35 years ago when Doc told me I’d be lucky to last three years if I didn’t. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Apr 6, 2023 19:09:46 GMT
When I smoked, I was a Players No6 man. B&H 60 a day gave up 35 years ago when Doc told me I’d be lucky to last three years if I didn’t. Jeez, 60 a day. I got through 20 a day for 20 years, then I saw the light thank god, and that's not just for health reasons. I believe a pack of fags costs more than a tenner today, mad. |
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Post by wapentake on Apr 6, 2023 19:15:42 GMT
B&H 60 a day gave up 35 years ago when Doc told me I’d be lucky to last three years if I didn’t. Jeez, 60 a day. I got through 20 a day for 20 years, then I saw the light thank god, and that's not just for health reasons. I believe a pack of fags costs more than a tenner today, mad. I’d need a lottery win to smoke now. |
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