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Post by thomas on Apr 2, 2023 10:26:33 GMT
Not really sheepwash. Alba are now predicted to take seats , so its more a slow rebalancing away from the snp.
as i said many time i dont know why the westminster party dont just call themselves the unionist party in scotland and be done with it. They still have to pretend to the rest of the uk though they are two different parties i suppose.
...but going back to useless , i see 15 snp msps are reportedly rebelling against him . I give him 6 months mate .
Humza Yousaf faces 15 rebel SNP MSPs prepared to challenge government
Its members are understood to be mostly parliamentarians who backed the former finance secretary Kate Forbes' leadership bid but insiders say it also includes some who publicly endorsed Mr Yousaf.
They say they will seek to actively engage with business and believe the relationship between government and the sector needs to be "reset". They plan to publish their own set of policy papers on jobs and the economy which they will present to ministers and hope the documents will lead to constructive discussions.
the chances of them get over 50% of a vote ever again are slim to say the least. i think the idea was the combined independence party vote in an election to then begin withdrawal of scotland from the union , and that was doable. Support for indy is holding up , while support for the snp is obviously down.
I dont even think useless is even talking about a de facto referendum anymore . For the first time since 1942 or something like that the snp doesnt have a policy for scottish independence.
As i said sheepwash the pendulum swings , but i will be surprsied is useless lasts till the end of the eyar to be honest.
I could be wrong , but we will see.
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Post by sheepy on Apr 2, 2023 10:59:55 GMT
the chances of them get over 50% of a vote ever again are slim to say the least. i think the idea was the combined independence party vote in an election to then begin withdrawal of scotland from the union , and that was doable. Support for indy is holding up , while support for the snp is obviously down.
I dont even think useless is even talking about a de facto referendum anymore . For the first time since 1942 or something like that the snp doesnt have a policy for scottish independence.
As i said sheepwash the pendulum swings , but i will be surprsied is useless lasts till the end of the eyar to be honest.
I could be wrong , but we will see.
We will see as you say, meanwhile I am off to read about the guy who grew up on a council estate who made good,lol. Even got himself a Lamborghini. I blame Clarkson myself. I have moved upmarket myself, I have got a taste for Smokey Bacon pringles, they will probably kill me but what the hell the bloody things are addictive. |
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Post by om15 on Apr 2, 2023 11:12:52 GMT
Simon Heffer writes an interesting article in the Sunday Telegraph today, as it is paywalled I will copy the complete article, it does manage to make valid and interesting points.
It is not enough to just sit back and laugh at Scooter MacMullah, in the interests of Scotland Westminster need to make a few points that the Scots might like to consider.
It is tempting, especially for Unionists, to hoot at the SNP’s choice of Humza Yousaf as its new leader. Already dubbed “Humza Useless” – by nationalists who decided not to support him – Mr Yousaf has made a brilliant start from the perspective of his opponents, internal and external.
His decision to offer an insultingly minor job to Kate Forbes, his defeated and probably more able opponent, when assembling his new cabinet is a mark of the man. It amuses him to spend British taxpayers’ money on a minister for independence, someone as useful as a minister for chocolate teapots. And although a main failing of the SNP – apart from its administration of the National Health Service in Scotland, which until last week was Mr Yousaf’s responsibility – is a catastrophic transport policy that has nearly cut off some of the Western Isles, he has declined to appoint a transport minister.
The SNP is horribly divided. Although some claim that Labour might win up to 20 seats in Scotland (where it currently holds only one) as a result of the governing party’s grotesque incompetence, a combination of tribalism and historic dislike of a corrupt Labour establishment in Scotland may prevent that, however badly Mr Yousaf performs.
However, serious Unionists, whatever their party, should be careful about crowing or gloating over the SNP’s apparent misfortune. What is bad for them, while they govern Scotland, is bad for Scotland. And since Scotland is likely to be part of the Union for a long time, and the SNP hypocritically tell themselves that their rank mismanagement will always result in their being bailed out by the English taxpayer, the party’s incompetence and Scotland’s consequent misfortune becomes England’s expense.
The sooner an end is put to this nonsense the better. Some Scots are well aware of the SNP’s shortcomings and have stopped supporting it. Its heartland, paradoxically, is what was once known as Red Clydeside, and the safest of Labour areas. Hard-line Bolsheviks motivated by the militancy that characterised Nicola Sturgeon will not be tempted to desert the SNP by the milk-and-water socialism that Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour specialises in. But perhaps they should consider how long the gravy train fantasy to which they subscribe has to run before it implodes entirely, and start to consider the alternatives.
But above all the Conservative Party, whose ship has been steadied in England since Rishi Sunak took power, has much to gain from engaging with the Scots: not to tell them how singularly incapable “Mr Useless” and company are, for Scotland seems well aware of that, but to make a positive case for the Union and for free market economics.
Too many Scots have accepted the preposterous idea, peddled by the SNP, of England as a colonial oppressor rather than as a partner with Scotland in British success. And too many have disregarded the possibilities of capitalism for enriching not just a few, but eventually all Scots. Only the Conservative Party can plausibly offer that prospect: but the Scots themselves will not grasp the point unless someone makes the argument to them. Only the Conservatives can do that with any conviction. Mr Yousaf’s arrival is the optimal moment for them to make the case for the Union and for themselves, and to do so relentlessly.
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Post by thomas on Apr 2, 2023 11:38:51 GMT
Simon Heffer writes an interesting article in the Sunday Telegraph today, as it is paywalled I will copy the complete article, it does manage to make valid and interesting points. It is not enough to just sit back and laugh at Scooter MacMullah, in the interests of Scotland Westminster need to make a few points that the Scots might like to consider. It is tempting, especially for Unionists, to hoot at the SNP’s choice of Humza Yousaf as its new leader. Already dubbed “Humza Useless” – by nationalists who decided not to support him – Mr Yousaf has made a brilliant start from the perspective of his opponents, internal and external.
His decision to offer an insultingly minor job to Kate Forbes, his defeated and probably more able opponent, when assembling his new cabinet is a mark of the man. It amuses him to spend British taxpayers’ money on a minister for independence, someone as useful as a minister for chocolate teapots. And although a main failing of the SNP – apart from its administration of the National Health Service in Scotland, which until last week was Mr Yousaf’s responsibility – is a catastrophic transport policy that has nearly cut off some of the Western Isles, he has declined to appoint a transport minister.
The SNP is horribly divided. Although some claim that Labour might win up to 20 seats in Scotland (where it currently holds only one) as a result of the governing party’s grotesque incompetence, a combination of tribalism and historic dislike of a corrupt Labour establishment in Scotland may prevent that, however badly Mr Yousaf performs.
However, serious Unionists, whatever their party, should be careful about crowing or gloating over the SNP’s apparent misfortune. What is bad for them, while they govern Scotland, is bad for Scotland. And since Scotland is likely to be part of the Union for a long time, and the SNP hypocritically tell themselves that their rank mismanagement will always result in their being bailed out by the English taxpayer, the party’s incompetence and Scotland’s consequent misfortune becomes England’s expense.
The sooner an end is put to this nonsense the better. Some Scots are well aware of the SNP’s shortcomings and have stopped supporting it. Its heartland, paradoxically, is what was once known as Red Clydeside, and the safest of Labour areas. Hard-line Bolsheviks motivated by the militancy that characterised Nicola Sturgeon will not be tempted to desert the SNP by the milk-and-water socialism that Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour specialises in. But perhaps they should consider how long the gravy train fantasy to which they subscribe has to run before it implodes entirely, and start to consider the alternatives.
But above all the Conservative Party, whose ship has been steadied in England since Rishi Sunak took power, has much to gain from engaging with the Scots: not to tell them how singularly incapable “Mr Useless” and company are, for Scotland seems well aware of that, but to make a positive case for the Union and for free market economics.
Too many Scots have accepted the preposterous idea, peddled by the SNP, of England as a colonial oppressor rather than as a partner with Scotland in British success. And too many have disregarded the possibilities of capitalism for enriching not just a few, but eventually all Scots. Only the Conservative Party can plausibly offer that prospect: but the Scots themselves will not grasp the point unless someone makes the argument to them. Only the Conservatives can do that with any conviction. Mr Yousaf’s arrival is the optimal moment for them to make the case for the Union and for themselves, and to do so relentlessly.i can see why you are so badly informed on scotland if thats the drivel you read. Lets look at it.
Well so far in your masterpiece article  simons deep analysis of useless tells us that water is wet. This all goes without saying om. Snp support in polls are down , but indy support is steady if not up.
It is. Indeed forbes was only telling us yesterday how she wanted to keep her finance job and how the insulting job offer was unworkable because of the snp commitment to green policy.
The scottish are british taxpeyers , so its our money , and as we know scotland has got back less than half the money it sent down to the uk treasurey since devolution began.
is this simon getting the excuses in early in case normal "union " service isnt resumed as you all hope?
At the minute , the tories are desperately telling voters to vote labour in scotland to save the onion. I keep telling you om , while the snp fortunes will inevtiably rise and fall , you have a large voting base in scotland , like northern ireland , that is growing and growing who wont vote brit parties.
yawn. We have went from british to english taxpayer in the blink of an eyelid. What about the billions of pounds scottish taxpayers are forced to contribute to english projects like london crossrail , hs2 and many amny more that not one scottish taxpayer will ever see any benefit from?
What ? I mean what the fuck does this even mean? is this some veiled threat about ending devolution if we scots dont get back in our box and vote labour? The idea hardline bolsheviks and militancy characterised sturgeon is laughable , but not as laughable as using the word socialism in line with a red tory like keir starmer.
I tell you om this is like reading somethng out of a viz comic. Taxi for private om.
am i reading something from an alterantive universe here? Rishi has steadided the tory ship? Twenty points behind labour?
Ive been hearing the same tory fantasy for the last 40 fucking years mate. Tories only have to engage with scots and they have much to gain. Tell me om , when was the last time the tories won an election in scotland.......1955 ?
whats the positive case for the union?
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Post by om15 on Apr 2, 2023 11:57:08 GMT
We'll see.
I did say some time ago that you will be still on here in ten years time (inshallah) grumbling about independence.
Scooter has now pushed that back to twenty years. One thing is for sure, based on what we have witnessed in English cities, British/Pakistani Muslim civic leaders do have an agenda, but independence might not be part of it, prepare to see a lot more nijabs in the pretendy parliament.
Ask the majority of Scots, they can tell you
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Post by thomas on Apr 2, 2023 12:10:14 GMT
We'll see. I did say some time ago that you will be still on here in ten years time (inshallah) grumbling about independence. Scooter has now pushed that back to twenty years. One thing is for sure, based on what we have witnessed in English cities, British/Pakistani Muslim civic leaders do have an agenda, but independence might not be part of it, prepare to see a lot more nijabs in the pretendy parliament. Ask the majority of Scots, they can tell you we will see.
What leads you to that conclusion ? Is twenty years the latest figure plucked out of fresh air? While im no fan of useless , and i think he wont last the coming year , you do relaise every election you will be facing a scot indy movement ?
At some point , we are going to score !
We did. From 2014 , we know fearmongering , rather than a positive case for this dead onion won it.
The vast majority wanted to remain in a uk in the EU.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2023 16:41:23 GMT
Seeing an Asian Muslim wearing tartan cracks me up. I just can't help myself. He should try and make minimum unit pricing work. |
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 3, 2023 0:45:42 GMT
Seeing an Asian Muslim wearing tartan cracks me up. I just can't help myself. He’ll have to do a decent caber toss at the Highland Games to convince me he can hack being a Scotsman for a week or two … just being good at Sectarianism won’t cut the mustard. |
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Post by jonksy on Apr 3, 2023 1:27:05 GMT
Seeing an Asian Muslim wearing tartan cracks me up. I just can't help myself. Especially if it's a women... |
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Post by thomas on Apr 3, 2023 6:33:38 GMT
Seeing an Asian Muslim wearing tartan cracks me up. I just can't help myself. Why?
Maybe its because people of asian muslim descent better integrate into our society , and can proudly call themselves scots.
Patman post told me on here the other week he was told by a forum poster he could "never be english". Perhaps thats why you would never see an asian muslim dress up in morris dancing gear , and dance round the maypole in his wee bells.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 3, 2023 6:57:35 GMT
Why was the SNP so bankrupt of Leadership talent it had to chose a Foreigner? … and a muslim too … of all people …. at a time when muslims have been involved in plotting and perpetrating some of the worst terrorist atrocities known on Western civilians in recent memory?
Nice timing, SNP! …. 👏🤯
Surely the SNP could have found a true Scotsman, indigenous to their once proud Country, to represent their Independent self-Governing ambitions?
Respecting Members of Scotland shouldn’t be run by anybody but a Scotsman/woman - indigenous to that Region …. that should be written into their Constitution … just as it should be written into the Constitution of every High Office of every Country and capital city in the World. … especially England and London.
Tories especially should know this unwritten Golden Rule of Governance … so important not to hand major political power over to any culturally alien and foreign person whose loyalty could be seriously compromised by religious and cultural ideological pressures that could break the security of borders and create conditions for INVASION.
THE NO.1 Rule of secure Country Management …is full control of one’s governing Chamber … and full control of border security.
How this religious, globalist and foreigner-owned MSM in this once UNITED Kingdom has managed to brain-washed the UK Electorate to accept foreigner governance in such High Office … when these people shouldn’t be eligible in Law to run in such Elections … is staggering to behold.
…. but it certainly explains our current sorry, fragmented dishevelled and bankrupted State since 9/11. A disgrace really … compared to the strength, confidence and certain security of Empire Days.
The slippery slope to all this … and our current border security woes … is purely down to the point in our history when our Leaders failed to secure the Banking Sector … and recognise the serious shift in Power and Take-over that happened when we were duped from a Common Market situation … to a EU Commission governance sham Parliament in Brussels where the Power and Money drained … in exchange of a few paltry handouts.🙄😖
The Scots, Irish or Welsh shouldn’t ever be lured back into that sorry powerless situation. 🙄 … especially not by a muslim(like Jews, historical sectarians) or an anarchist Krankie happy to give governance away to those in a distant land with radically different loyalties and ambitions.
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Post by Dubdrifter on Apr 3, 2023 7:07:10 GMT
[Maybe its because people of asian muslim descent better integrate into our society , and can proudly call themselves scots. Gawd, … you’ve been heavily brain-washed haven’t you??!! … Jeeez … stop watching the BBC and reading the Guardian as if it’s the Bible!! Muslims and Jews, Hindus and Sikhs are the most historically SECTARIAN tribes on the Planet. FACT. …. They never do REAL INTEGRATION EVER…. One or two might ‘fake’ the veneer of it … Different tribes are tribal …. when it comes to the CRUNCH.
…. And it’s essential to really trust whose got your back … when CRUNCH TIME comes. …. Golden Rule No.1.Foreigners can’t marry into these tribes unless they adopt their religion … women are treated like 2nd class citizens in these male-bullied religions … and don’t get me started on the subject of ‘honour killings’ - for those that WANT to fully freely integrate … Any educated person studying HISTORY knows that’s not tolerance showing Integration Skills.🙄 |
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Post by thomas on Apr 3, 2023 7:14:15 GMT
[Maybe its because people of asian muslim descent better integrate into our society , and can proudly call themselves scots. Gawd, … you’ve been heavily brain-washed haven’t you??!! … Jeeez … stop watching the BBC and reading the Guardian as if it’s the f.Bible!! Muslims and Jews, Hindus and Sikhs are the most historically SECTARIAN tribes on the Planet. …. They never do REAL INTEGRATION EVER…. One or two might ‘fake’ the veneer of it … Different tribes are tribal …. when it comes to the CRUNCH.
…. And it’s essential to really trust whose got your back … when CRUNCH TIME comes. …. Golden Rule No.1.Peace be upon you. |
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Post by Vinny on Apr 3, 2023 7:18:40 GMT
SNAT cultists cannot get their heads around the fact that Scotland wants to stay the UK.
Time for the SNP to get the boot.
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simons deep analysis of useless tells us that water is wet. This all goes without saying om. Snp support in polls are down , but indy support is steady if not up.
