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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 20, 2022 6:10:22 GMT
Yep, Chief Whip and Deputy also resign. apparently not.. This morning’s papers are quite amazing. If the accounts are to be believed, for several HOURS last night no one in the parliamentary party knew if the Chief Whip and the Deputy Chief Whip were in post, or not. Had they “resigned” ? Had they been pushed ? Nobody was saying anything, and by that I don’t mean nobody was telling us the public, nobody was telling party MPs. If the woman is still in the job on Monday morning I’ll be impressed And if she isn’t, I’ll HAVE to vote Labour and let that slimy bastard Starmer in because if I don’t I’ll be out of a job, out of a home and bankrupt within a month. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Oct 20, 2022 7:21:51 GMT
...The Tories will lose the next election, and Labour will win, which fills me with dread I shouldn't worry too much: Their ability to do anything will be totally constrained by the current situation. And by the time they've unravelled this mess it'll be time for another GE and Labour will get the blame for all of the dissatisfaction in the meantime. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 20, 2022 9:13:03 GMT
...The Tories will lose the next election, and Labour will win, which fills me with dread I shouldn't worry too much: Their ability to do anything will be totally constrained by the current situation. And by the time they've unravelled this mess it'll be time for another GE and Labour will get the blame for all of the dissatisfaction in the meantime. I’m not sure I understand. What constraints? Who among the IMF and Standard and Poor Gnomes is going to complain at the return to Dennis Healeys 98% tax rate ? Who is going to stop him re-joining the EU ? Don’t forget a whole raft of his lying scum said in their 2017 election manifestos that the most important thing to do is respect the expressed will of the majority and then spent the whole of the text two years trying to find a way to destroy it. Some you will remember openly stated the 2016 referendum was as merely advisory and could simply be ignored. Those scum are still collecting their £85000 a year. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2022 10:59:42 GMT
I shouldn't worry too much: Their ability to do anything will be totally constrained by the current situation. And by the time they've unravelled this mess it'll be time for another GE and Labour will get the blame for all of the dissatisfaction in the meantime. I’m not sure I understand. What constraints? Who among the IMF and Standard and Poor Gnomes is going to complain at the return to Dennis Healeys 98% tax rate ? Who is going to stop him re-joining the EU ? Don’t forget a whole raft of his lying scum said in their 2017 election manifestos that the most important thing to do is respect the expressed will of the majority and then spent the whole of the text two years trying to find a way to destroy it. Some you will remember openly stated the 2016 referendum was as merely advisory and could simply be ignored. Those scum are still collecting their £85000 a year. But that simply is not true is it John And remember you only got your Brexit because the referendum was advisory. Had it been binding the PM would have been forced to withdraw Article 50 (See Wilson and Others v Prime Minister) |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 20, 2022 11:45:10 GMT
David Cameron was PM at the time and stated that he would implement the wishes of the people and kept his promise
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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2022 11:56:52 GMT
David Cameron was PM at the time and stated that he would implement the wishes of the people and kept his promise Err he resigned within hours. It was May that delivered Article 50 |
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Post by Handyman on Oct 20, 2022 12:16:48 GMT
I know after keeping his promise to the people democracy in action, and yes, I know what May did
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Post by Red Rackham on Oct 20, 2022 12:34:44 GMT
Shapps is the new Home Secretary - not sure at all about that. I have to say that Bravermans resignation looked a bit too contrived and convenient...  This is not good news at all. Shapps and Hunt are remainiacs, Braverman was the one person who may have got to grips with cross-channel illegals. Apparently, that was the reason she was sacked, Truss wanted a more 'liberal' approach to immigration. I think Truss may be about to resign. |
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Post by Pacifico on Oct 20, 2022 16:05:53 GMT
Shapps is the new Home Secretary - not sure at all about that. I have to say that Bravermans resignation looked a bit too contrived and convenient... This is not good news at all. Shapps and Hunt are remainiacs, Braverman was the one person who may have got to grips with cross-channel illegals. Apparently, that was the reason she was sacked, Truss wanted a more 'liberal' approach to immigration. I think Truss may be about to resign. The only senior member of the Government who was not a remaniac is the Foreign Secretary - the WEF is reasserting their authority.. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Oct 20, 2022 20:24:24 GMT
I’m not sure I understand. What constraints? Who among the IMF and Standard and Poor Gnomes is going to complain at the return to Dennis Healeys 98% tax rate ? Who is going to stop him re-joining the EU ? Don’t forget a whole raft of his lying scum said in their 2017 election manifestos that the most important thing to do is respect the expressed will of the majority and then spent the whole of the text two years trying to find a way to destroy it. Some you will remember openly stated the 2016 referendum was as merely advisory and could simply be ignored. Those scum are still collecting their £85000 a year. But that simply is not true is it John And remember you only got your Brexit because the referendum was advisory. Had it been binding the PM would have been forced to withdraw Article 50 (See Wilson and Others v Prime Minister) What is ‘not true?’ Come on, put up or shut up. All the Welsh labour sitting mps used a stock manifesto template into which they inserted pictures of themselves at the assembly, or with Welsh labour ministers as they wished to distance themselves from corbyn, and they all had the same boilerplate as Newport east and Newport wests candidates which stated ‘it is of the greatest importance that we respect the wishes of the people in the recent referendum’ and no sooner had every one of the bastards got back in that they all ganged up to screw Brexit. Go check the voting records as I did back then. |
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Post by Steve on Oct 20, 2022 22:05:29 GMT
Let's start with your juvenile 'a whole raft of his lying scum said in their 2017 election manifestos that the most important thing to do is respect the expressed will of the majority'Now read the 2017 Welsh Labour election manifesto and use Cntrl-F to search for 'most important' Which boiler plate uses much of the National manifesto labour.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/labour-manifesto-2017.pdf4 mentions and not one of your supposition. They only said they accepted the referendum result and 'Welsh Labour recognises that leaving the EU with ‘no deal’ is the worst possible deal for Britain and that it would do damage to our economy and trade. We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option and if needs be negotiate transitional arrangements to avoid a cliff-edge’ for the economy.'Not long after it became obvious that the referendum was not a fair one and deserved no tablet of stone respect. |
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