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Post by dodgydave on Mar 11, 2023 0:32:40 GMT
Starmer's Labour have been falling over themselves today to support Gary Lineker.
One slight problem...
The arrogant Lineker (and his team of lawyers) doesn't think IR35 should apply to him. The HMRC disagree, and are chasing him for £4.9m in unpaid taxes lol.
So we have a bizarre situation where Starmer's Labour are supporting a multi-millionaire tax dodger, but they won't support working people striking for inflation matching pay rises. You couldn't make it up.
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 11, 2023 0:40:05 GMT
To be fair, Blair’s IR35 Inventor stated categorically in the 1999 Regulatory Impact Assessment that it would not apply to footballers and football commentators whose millionaire lifestyles would mean they could afford lawyers to fight it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2023 17:58:02 GMT
dodgydave, made my day. This is going to run and run.
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Post by dodgydave on Mar 11, 2023 18:33:41 GMT
dodgydave , made my day. This is going to run and run. Yeah notice how all the lefties have gone into hiding now that I have revealed Lineker is a tax dodger hahah.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2023 20:32:45 GMT
dodgydave , made my day. This is going to run and run. Yeah notice how all the lefties have gone into hiding now that I have revealed Lineker is a tax dodger hahah. Whether that be the case or not does not alter the truth of what Linaker said, nor does it make any difference to the rights and wrongs of the whole Linaker versus BBC issue. If he has illegally avoided tax the inland revenue should go after him for it. None of which changes the fact the BBC impartiality rules are only being used to silence critics of the Tory government. Right wing twats can say whatever the hell they like if they are attacking the enemies of the government it seems. Impartiality rules are not worth jack shit if they are not enforced impartially. If the facts are that Linaker has evaded tax I am sure the right wing media will be all over it soon. But forgive me for not taking your word for it alone.
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Post by see2 on Mar 13, 2023 12:10:15 GMT
Starmer's Labour have been falling over themselves today to support Gary Lineker. One slight problem... The arrogant Lineker (and his team of lawyers) doesn't think IR35 should apply to him. The HMRC disagree, and are chasing him for £4.9m in unpaid taxes lol. So we have a bizarre situation where Starmer's Labour are supporting a multi-millionaire tax dodger, but they won't support working people striking for inflation matching pay rises. You couldn't make it up. We have another bizarre case of you throwing slime at Starmer and Labour. There appears to be a disagreement between between Lineker and HMRC, until that disagreement is resolved you have no cause to insinuate the worse, other than your need to insult Starmer and the Labour party. Starmer refusing to intervene in the strikes that are taking place is IMO politically the right thing for him to do. It doesn't mean he is against the strikers actions, only that he has left the dispute for those involved to decide.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2023 12:14:31 GMT
He will be a tax dodger if it is proved, Lineker is denying it.
That still does not make his remarks any less true.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 13, 2023 18:01:38 GMT
He will be a tax dodger if it is proved, Lineker is denying it. That still does not make his remarks any less true. well he denied it last time he got caught but he still had to pay back £5 million to HMRC.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2023 18:08:29 GMT
The champagne socialists know no bounds, if Lineker was a Tory supporter we'd have to listen to Starmer and Big Gob Rayner demanding he was investigated, they bellyache all day long about social injustice, while they find loopholes to avoid paying their fair share of taxes, then try to sell themselves as the 'party of the people' ... yeah of course you're not.
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Post by see2 on Mar 13, 2023 19:00:26 GMT
He will be a tax dodger if it is proved, Lineker is denying it. That still does not make his remarks any less true. well he denied it last time he got caught but he still had to pay back £5 million to HMRC. IF you are correct was he accused of doing anything illegal? Did he refuse to pay or was he fined as well as having to pay?
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Post by see2 on Mar 13, 2023 19:13:27 GMT
The champagne socialists know no bounds, if Lineker was a Tory supporter we'd have to listen to Starmer and Big Gob Rayner demanding he was investigated, they bellyache all day long about social injustice, while they find loopholes to avoid paying their fair share of taxes, then try to sell themselves as the 'party of the people' ... yeah of course you're not. Hypocrisy knows no bounds, especially amongst rich Conservatives. Many Labour supporters are only doing what Tory supporters would do in similar circumstances, so why are you whinging and insinuating lies? These people are part of the people, more so than the Tories who have their cash salted away in some low tax haven. The idea that a rich individual cannot be social minded is way beyond ridiculous.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2023 19:19:47 GMT
The champagne socialists know no bounds, if Lineker was a Tory supporter we'd have to listen to Starmer and Big Gob Rayner demanding he was investigated, they bellyache all day long about social injustice, while they find loopholes to avoid paying their fair share of taxes, then try to sell themselves as the 'party of the people' ... yeah of course you're not. Hypocrisy knows no bounds, especially amongst rich Conservatives. Many Labour supporters are only doing what Tory supporters would do in similar circumstances, so why are you whinging and insinuating lies? These people are part of the people, more so than the Tories who have their cash salted away in some low tax haven. The idea that a rich individual cannot be social minded is way beyond ridiculous. The only difference is Labour sell themselves on the fact they DON'T do what the Tories do.
How can Labour win a general election on the pretense they despise tax avoidance , they despise the wealthy, they will put a stop to it if they are elected.
LOL how can we vote for them when they are doing EXACTLY what they are accusing the Tories of doing.
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Post by see2 on Mar 13, 2023 20:00:36 GMT
Hypocrisy knows no bounds, especially amongst rich Conservatives. Many Labour supporters are only doing what Tory supporters would do in similar circumstances, so why are you whinging and insinuating lies? These people are part of the people, more so than the Tories who have their cash salted away in some low tax haven. The idea that a rich individual cannot be social minded is way beyond ridiculous. The only difference is Labour sell themselves on the fact they DON'T do what the Tories do.
How can Labour win a general election on the pretense they despise tax avoidance , they despise the wealthy, they will put a stop to it if they are elected.
LOL how can we vote for them when they are doing EXACTLY what they are accusing the Tories of doing.
In similar circumstances, as in this case, they do. Despising the wealthy is not true, but many are against excessive wealth especially if combined with tax avoidance and IF Lineker is found to have deliberately refused to pay his due taxes, then he will be ridiculed by just about everyone. Vote for THEM! --- when THEY are "doing EXACTLY what they are accusing the Tories of doing". They and them are plural which is not appropriate when one individual is under the spotlight, an individual who is yet to be found to have done, or got. something wrong.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2023 20:05:05 GMT
The only difference is Labour sell themselves on the fact they DON'T do what the Tories do.
How can Labour win a general election on the pretense they despise tax avoidance , they despise the wealthy, they will put a stop to it if they are elected.
LOL how can we vote for them when they are doing EXACTLY what they are accusing the Tories of doing.
In similar circumstances, as in this case, they do. Despising the wealthy is not true, but many are against excessive wealth especially if combined with tax avoidance and IF Lineker is found to have deliberately refused to pay his due taxes, then he will be ridiculed by just about everyone. Vote for THEM! --- when THEY are "doing EXACTLY what they are accusing the Tories of doing". They and them are plural which is not appropriate when one individual is under the spotlight, an individual who is yet to be found to have done, or got. something wrong. you are aware that response is totally gobbledygook?
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Post by dodgydave on Mar 14, 2023 13:38:09 GMT
Starmer's Labour have been falling over themselves today to support Gary Lineker. One slight problem... The arrogant Lineker (and his team of lawyers) doesn't think IR35 should apply to him. The HMRC disagree, and are chasing him for £4.9m in unpaid taxes lol. So we have a bizarre situation where Starmer's Labour are supporting a multi-millionaire tax dodger, but they won't support working people striking for inflation matching pay rises. You couldn't make it up. We have another bizarre case of you throwing slime at Starmer and Labour. There appears to be a disagreement between between Lineker and HMRC, until that disagreement is resolved you have no cause to insinuate the worse, other than your need to insult Starmer and the Labour party. Starmer refusing to intervene in the strikes that are taking place is IMO politically the right thing for him to do. It doesn't mean he is against the strikers actions, only that he has left the dispute for those involved to decide. Haha now you support a tax dodger... HRMC have said he is employed so he owes £5 million in taxes. The arrogant prick wants to still continuing using a Personal Service Company (to avoid tax) and ignore IR35, when the other 3 million people that it affected have complied with IR35. So Starmer speaks out in support of somebody who pays ZERO national insurance and only pays tax on share dividends, and gets out of £5 million in taxes!! Yet he won't support working people striking for inflation matching pay rises. He is the leader of the LABOUR party, the spearhead of the LABOUR MOVEMENT. If he doesn't want to support working people he should fuck off and join the Tories or the Libdems.
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