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Post by jonksy on Mar 13, 2023 16:41:46 GMT
Yes I will fight her corner As with all BBC presenters involved with politics, she simply played "Devils Advocate" in order to prompt debate, or a response. What makes this particularly ridiculous is the fact that Fiona Bruce has supported and worked for the charity "Refuge" for many years, making it an absurd suggestion that she somehow "trivialised violence against women". Its getting to a situation now where public figures dare not open their mouths for it been wrongly interpreted What a pity you do not fight the corner that has caused this mess...
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2023 16:48:55 GMT
Yes I will fight her corner As with all BBC presenters involved with politics, she simply played "Devils Advocate" in order to prompt debate, or a response. What makes this particularly ridiculous is the fact that Fiona Bruce has supported and worked for the charity "Refuge" for many years, making it an absurd suggestion that she somehow "trivialised violence against women". Its getting to a situation now where public figures dare not open their mouths for it been wrongly interpreted What a pity you do not fight the corner that has caused this mess... Seems we can't get shut of jug ears, so now it's time to call for Tim Davie to lose his job, let's see if jug ears comes to his defense.
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Post by thescotsman on Mar 13, 2023 16:49:23 GMT
Seems to me the issue is not the BBC but social media
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Post by om15 on Mar 13, 2023 17:03:21 GMT
Mainly due to the woke cancel culture, it is perfectly alright for a Tory or perceived right wing person to be shouted down and cancelled, think of JK Rowling, Jeremy Clarkson and so on, but as soon as anybody raises an eyebrow about clots like the crisp salesman Lineker coming up with rubbish it is all shrill cries of free speech from the lefties.
I think that Roy "Chubby" Brown should be accorded free speech, but because he takes the piss out of mothers in law and Muslims he is cancelled by all the Labour Councils, but their leftie pin up Lineker can call the Tories the Third Reich and nothing must be said.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 13, 2023 17:08:49 GMT
Mainly due to the woke cancel culture, it is perfectly alright for a Tory or perceived right wing person to be shouted down and cancelled, think of JK Rowling, Jeremy Clarkson and so on, but as soon as anybody raises an eyebrow about clots like the crisp salesman Lineker coming up with rubbish it is all shrill cries of free speech from the lefties. I think that Roy "Chubby" Brown should be accorded free speech, but because he takes the piss out of mothers in law and Muslims he is cancelled by all the Labour Councils, but their leftie pin up Lineker can call the Tories the Third Reich and nothing must be said. Yes the lefties want freespeech but only if it's leftie freespeech, all other must be closed down, and the most effective tool to do it is to label them 'far right' or 'racist', that's how the lefties shut down freedom of speech if it's not their kind of freedom.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2023 17:49:09 GMT
So I am lying about the international law that states quite clearly that all asylum seekers have the right to go to any country they wish and not be penalised for doing so? Do grow up. I can hear the squeak of those goal posts being moved and the cogs in your brain inventing even more ways to perform your third rate sophistry. Yuo never cease to amaze me and not in a good way.
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Post by Bentley on Mar 13, 2023 19:17:37 GMT
I can hear the squeak of those goal posts being moved and the cogs in your brain inventing even more ways to perform your third rate sophistry. Yuo never cease to amaze me and not in a good way. I’ve always been a bit underwhelmed by you tbh.
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Post by Montegriffo on Mar 14, 2023 7:51:52 GMT
I just put a link to a poll mate where 93% do not want lineker on their screens I suppose the usual karens on the board will vote out of tune as they always do.. Thanks jonks I've signed it, and I am seriously debating cancelling my tv licence fee, when they come after me for payment I will tell them why I am refusing to pay, I want no part of my hard earned cash going towards a political mouthpieces salary, at the same time giving Jug ears a BBC platform to spout his bias political views. How many times must you be told that Lineker did not use a BBC platform?
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 14, 2023 9:59:21 GMT
Thanks jonks I've signed it, and I am seriously debating cancelling my tv licence fee, when they come after me for payment I will tell them why I am refusing to pay, I want no part of my hard earned cash going towards a political mouthpieces salary, at the same time giving Jug ears a BBC platform to spout his bias political views. How many times must you be told that Lineker did not use a BBC platform? Well if you read the room many of us disagree with you.
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Post by see2 on Mar 14, 2023 10:05:27 GMT
Doubt it, can't see Labour doing anything about it, nor will Labour Lite Ricky, it will be forgotten about until Lineker carefully choosing his words calls more Conservatives Nazis when he will receive another apology from the BBC. Lineker is entitled to his opinions about things, as indeed are we entitled to an opinion about Lineker. Just as yourself and others are entitled to their exaggerations.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 14, 2023 10:10:54 GMT
Doubt it, can't see Labour doing anything about it, nor will Labour Lite Ricky, it will be forgotten about until Lineker carefully choosing his words calls more Conservatives Nazis when he will receive another apology from the BBC. Lineker is entitled to his opinions about things, as indeed are we entitled to an opinion about Lineker. Just as yourself and others are entitled to their exaggerations. Imagine if a Tory MP said anything derogatory regarding Jug ears and his football career, they'd quite rightly be told to stick to the job they are being paid to do, just like we're telling Jug ears to stick to the job he's employed to do, if MPs want to become football pundits quit politics, and if football pundits want to become politicians quit being a football commentator, quite simple reallly.
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Post by see2 on Mar 14, 2023 10:15:54 GMT
So I am lying about the international law that states quite clearly that all asylum seekers have the right to go to any country they wish and not be penalised for doing so? Do grow up. Where does it stipulate to include 'illegal' migrants coming from a safe country? Under the existing mass migration circumstances how does one decide who is in genuine need of asylum and who isn't? Even if successfully separated, what can be legally done with those who are here but are not entitled to asylum, when they have no ID and no Passport to prove which country they are from?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2023 10:21:27 GMT
Mainly due to the woke cancel culture, it is perfectly alright for a Tory or perceived right wing person to be shouted down and cancelled, think of JK Rowling, Jeremy Clarkson and so on, but as soon as anybody raises an eyebrow about clots like the crisp salesman Lineker coming up with rubbish it is all shrill cries of free speech from the lefties. I think that Roy "Chubby" Brown should be accorded free speech, but because he takes the piss out of mothers in law and Muslims he is cancelled by all the Labour Councils, but their leftie pin up Lineker can call the Tories the Third Reich and nothing must be said. JK Rowling is a life long Labour voter and supporter I am a Labour supporter, and I am also a huge fan of Roy Chubby Brown, I know his chauffeur and right hand man personally, and I oppose those who would ban his shows, including the council in his own home town. Not all people of "the Left" are the same, same as people of "the Right", the Loony Militants of the Left are just as distasteful as the nasty right wing Populists. The issue for me about Linekar is not about politics, or the Left or Right, it is about Libitarianism, and the rights of citizens as private individuals and freedom of expression. If Linekar had said what he did say live on air on MOTD, then he would deserve the sack Where does a slippery slope begin and end
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Post by see2 on Mar 14, 2023 10:21:57 GMT
Just as yourself and others are entitled to their exaggerations. Imagine if a Tory MP said anything derogatory regarding Jug ears and his football career, they'd quite rightly be told to stick to the job they are being paid to do, just like we're telling Jug ears to stick to the job he's employed to do, if MPs want to become football pundits quit politics, and if football pundits want to become politicians quit being a football commentator, quite simple reallly. Try posting without the obvious bias that leads you to make up such a contrived reply. That shouldn't be too difficult for you.
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Post by Fairsociety on Mar 14, 2023 10:22:19 GMT
Where does it stipulate to include 'illegal' migrants coming from a safe country? Under the existing mass migration circumstances how does one decide who is in genuine need of asylum and who isn't? Even if successfully separated, what can be legally done with those who are here but are not entitled to asylum, when they have no ID and no Passport to prove which country they are from? It's easy, if they are picked up entering from France in a dinghy then we know they are not 'genuine' because they have 'paid' the traffickers to leave a 'safe' country, not rocket science.
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