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Post by Vinny on Mar 9, 2023 6:41:19 GMT
If you create loopholes for some religious schools you inadvertently create loopholes for the rest and create an avenue to get taken to court and tied in knots by human rights lawyers.
A simple requirement of secularism in all schools gets rid of that problem with no legal repercussions.
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Post by walterpaisley on Mar 9, 2023 7:48:22 GMT
The should not ban Church of England or Catholic schools. They are some of the best we have. We need to discriminate. Nonsense. ALL "religious" schools are open to abuse. I attended C of E primary education, where the local vicar (an ex Hurricane pilot with opinions somewhere to the right of David Duke) would teach us (we had R.E three times a week and daily religious assemblies - at least one of which would be a sermon by the Reverend G.... - S......) that - among other things - Christianity is "the light in a heathen world", it's the only "true" religion and all others are "false", that the sexes can and should never be equal... He was not a sane man. (Literally, as it later proved when he had a massive, requiring-confinement meltdown after his wife left him for another woman, to the general delight of the village gossips of 1970s Derbyshire..) Beyond which, good luck coming up with legislation that discriminates against every religion, while making exception for one or two individual sects. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 9, 2023 7:51:54 GMT
The should not ban Church of England or Catholic schools. They are some of the best we have. We need to discriminate. Nonsense. ALL "religious" schools are open to abuse. I attended C of E primary education, where the local vicar (an ex Hurricane pilot with opinions somewhere to the right of David Duke) would teach us (we had R.E three times a week and daily religious assemblies - at least one of which would be a sermon by the Reverend G.... - S......) that - among other things - Christianity is "the light in a heathen world", it's the only "true" religion and all others are "false", that the sexes can and should never be equal... He was not a sane man. (Literally, as it later proved when he had a massive, requiring-confinement meltdown after his wife left him for another woman, to the general delight of the village gossips of 1970s Derbyshire..) Beyond which, good luck coming up with legislation that discriminates against every religion, while making exception for one or two individual sects. If religeon served any good purpose like voting it would have been banned years ago. |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 9, 2023 10:31:58 GMT
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Banaz_MahmodBanaz Mahmod was murdered by her own father. Payzee Mahmod and Bekhal Mahmod have called for the changes in the law to protect other girls from the situation her father forced upon her. Lets debate this. What can we do to protect teenage girls and grown women from 'honour' killings? The first thing the government must do is ban religious schools, this will never happen, however lets assume. Assuming religious schools are banned buy law, and the law is enforced (lol) Then minorities must be told in no uncertain terms that they will continue to be welcome in this country if they integrate. It should be made absolutely crystal clear to Muslims, Jews, Hindu's, Buddhists, Eskimo's, Martians, etc etc that if you choose to live in the UK you accept the way we do things which includes accepting UK law. If you don't like the idea, then you don't come here, or you leave. Agreed. And in addition, I would remove any legal consideration of religion. It would not be a protected characteristic nor would there be any such thing as religiously aggravated/motivated offences. If people want to sit around and draw Mohamed cartoons or set fire to copies of the Qu'ran, they should be perfectly at liberty to do so. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 9, 2023 13:13:59 GMT
The church in this country invented education for the masses. You say you don't believe in god, but you realise the alternative is wokism. Why not ask yourself why church schools outperform state run schools. Christians would contend they are blessed. I went to one myself and it was good. It too was far ahead of the national average. The teachers cared about the kids. The one I went to was a junior school and that GCSE maths paper we were looking at was easier than the questions we had in junior school. That's the price you pay for secularism. The country is fucked. Oh ffs. BvL, how many YouTube videos do you think I could provide, by clever people, who say religion is not a force for good, quite the opposite in fact. Religion is a force for evil, it brainwashes the ignorant which is why kids must be indoctrinated before they get old enough to make up ther own mind. See Madrassa, or Yeshiva. You say, and I can hardly say this without laughing, that the alternative to god, is woke. I'm at a loss to understand what you're talking about. I am not in the slightest religious, you think that makes me woke? Your kids will be made woke and so will their kids. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 9, 2023 13:18:09 GMT
The should not ban Church of England or Catholic schools. They are some of the best we have. We need to discriminate. Nonsense. ALL "religious" schools are open to abuse. I attended C of E primary education, where the local vicar (an ex Hurricane pilot with opinions somewhere to the right of David Duke) would teach us (we had R.E three times a week and daily religious assemblies - at least one of which would be a sermon by the Reverend G.... - S......) that - among other things - Christianity is "the light in a heathen world", it's the only "true" religion and all others are "false", that the sexes can and should never be equal... He was not a sane man. (Literally, as it later proved when he had a massive, requiring-confinement meltdown after his wife left him for another woman, to the general delight of the village gossips of 1970s Derbyshire..) Beyond which, good luck coming up with legislation that discriminates against every religion, while making exception for one or two individual sects. Poor guy. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 9, 2023 13:20:57 GMT
If you create loopholes for some religious schools you inadvertently create loopholes for the rest and create an avenue to get taken to court and tied in knots by human rights lawyers. A simple requirement of secularism in all schools gets rid of that problem with no legal repercussions. You prefer woke over our faith. Why not just ban the problem rather than the innocent banned as well. What a fascist view. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 9, 2023 13:24:01 GMT
Nonsense. ALL "religious" schools are open to abuse. I attended C of E primary education, where the local vicar (an ex Hurricane pilot with opinions somewhere to the right of David Duke) would teach us (we had R.E three times a week and daily religious assemblies - at least one of which would be a sermon by the Reverend G.... - S......) that - among other things - Christianity is "the light in a heathen world", it's the only "true" religion and all others are "false", that the sexes can and should never be equal... He was not a sane man. (Literally, as it later proved when he had a massive, requiring-confinement meltdown after his wife left him for another woman, to the general delight of the village gossips of 1970s Derbyshire..) Beyond which, good luck coming up with legislation that discriminates against every religion, while making exception for one or two individual sects. If religeon served any good purpose like voting it would have been banned years ago. They started banning it years ago, like when the Soviet Union was formed. Now the soviets have moved over to fuck Britain. I'd have thought you would have noticed that. It's why we can't manufacture anything properly and why there are Thought Police. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 9, 2023 13:25:40 GMT
If you create loopholes for some religious schools you inadvertently create loopholes for the rest and create an avenue to get taken to court and tied in knots by human rights lawyers. A simple requirement of secularism in all schools gets rid of that problem with no legal repercussions. You prefer woke over our faith. Why not just ban the problem rather than the innocent banned as well. What a fascist view. Secularism isn't "woke". Islamic fundamentalists hate it. Wokey crap is pandering to religious antiquities for the sake of not upsetting the easily offended. Abolish multiculturalism and replace it with secularism. |
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 9, 2023 13:46:24 GMT
You prefer woke over our faith. Why not just ban the problem rather than the innocent banned as well. What a fascist view. Secularism isn't "woke". Islamic fundamentalists hate it. Wokey crap is pandering to religious antiquities for the sake of not upsetting the easily offended. Abolish multiculturalism and replace it with secularism. Secularism is a part of woke. The bible protects the follower from all this mid fuck stuff. Christians think gay is the work of the devil and that men are more reliable in the moral sense than women, hence why the church is led by men. Woke can't function with Christianity. Christianity is the antidote to the Mystery Babylon, which includes all so-called other religions including woke. Woke is like a government-made cult like Buddhism.
By the way, I'll give you one guess why charities like the Red Cross banned Christmas. All reference to Jesus is left off Christmas cards. Jesus has been banned. You think it is something to do with Father Christmas, a bloke Coke a cola used to market their fizzy drinks with. You've been stitched up something rotten.
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Post by Vinny on Mar 9, 2023 13:49:07 GMT
Christianity is a set of views that initially aimed to venerate whatever may have caused life to exist, then got hijacked and used as a control system by telling everyone they were sinners who needed to be saved by doing as the religion commanded.
There's this obscene idea that God had his only son killed so that you will go to hell, forever, unless you beg him for forgiveness.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Mar 9, 2023 13:53:43 GMT
Christianity is a set of views that initially aimed to venerate whatever may have caused life to exist, then got hijacked and used as a control system by telling everyone they were sinners who needed to be saved by doing as the religion commanded. There's this obscene idea that God had his only son killed so that you will go to hell, forever, unless you beg him for forgiveness. Christmas was hijacked to sell furniture. So what, it does not invalidate the original thing though. It actually indicates it is a real threat to the fascist government who banned it. That's the truth. Woke can't function in a Christian society as it is seen for what it is. |
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Post by wapentake on Mar 9, 2023 13:55:36 GMT
Now that I do agree with,have extended family both catholic and Protestant can’t say either involvement in schools any advantage just as trying to fill kids heads with the ideas of trans this or that and other stuff is. They need to be taught tolerance of others sensibly and be left to make their minds up as they mature. Tolerance, tolerance of what, religion? I'm not talking about catholic & protestant, thanks to that fat bastard Henry the 8th or VIII if you prefer the Latin, that's our historic problem it's got nothing to do with anyone else, including the Yanks. But we should not allow minorities to have their own schools in this country. As I said up the page, kids in this country should not be brainwashed with religion. What are you on about Red lost me there,you post ban all religious schools I give it a like then BvL complains Protestant & catholic schools should be exempt and you grudgingly agree. I then post disappointment and you say yeah they’re not really good I post I agree no religious schools and that gender stuff shouldn’t be taught either that they can make their own minds up on religion or gender stuff when they are mature but tolerance f others is a good idea,being tolerant doesn’t include religious schools and that it works both ways i.e. you have freedom to worship but in our country follow our laws. Then you tell me Henry the viii was a fat bastard,can I have a pint of what you were on  |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 9, 2023 13:58:16 GMT
Christianity is a set of views that initially aimed to venerate whatever may have caused life to exist, then got hijacked and used as a control system by telling everyone they were sinners who needed to be saved by doing as the religion commanded. There's this obscene idea that God had his only son killed so that you will go to hell, forever, unless you beg him for forgiveness. Christmas was hijacked to sell furniture. So what, it does not invalidate the original thing though. It actually indicates it is a real threat to the fascist government who banned it. That's the truth. Woke can't function in a Christian society as it is seen for what it is. Cruelty and violence all over the place. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 9, 2023 14:48:36 GMT
Christianity is a set of views that initially aimed to venerate whatever may have caused life to exist, then got hijacked and used as a control system by telling everyone they were sinners who needed to be saved by doing as the religion commanded. There's this obscene idea that God had his only son killed so that you will go to hell, forever, unless you beg him for forgiveness. So what, it does not invalidate the original thing though. It actually indicates it is a real threat to the fascist government who banned it. That's the truth. Woke can't function in a Christian society as it is seen for what it is. Well of course it was, Joseph was allegedly a carpenter. |
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