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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 12:47:02 GMT
Watching the dispiriting cat fight that is supposedly the selection of the First Minister of Scotland I am amazed at how much political life has suffered in Scotland, Sturgeon's legacy is the three clowns that we see squabbling about how best to drive Scotland even further downhill. Not one seems to acknowledge the third word state to which they have helped their country descend to. Despite having a couple of decades of grown up political training their cult followers still debate like told off children. It's frightfully dishonest and somewhat tedious, which is probably why they're evaporating support within their own movement. Thats rich coming from brexiters .
Meawhile hows brexit going for you.......?
In a recent survey of polls, an average of 58% of the public expressed a preference for rejoining the EU
Brexit poll: Two-thirds of Britons now support future referendum on rejoining the EU
poor auld brexiters support dropping like a stone. 
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 12:54:52 GMT
About 30 years ago I went down to Lusaka in Zambia working, the people that I worked with there told me that the worst thing that happened there was the British pulling out. I understand that in order to stay afloat they have sold most of their Country to the Chinese. Perhaps you have that in mind? These are the decendents of the tossers who were rounding up their own people for the slave trade years prior. you could be right jonsky , but then the ancestors of the english ( and others) did the same centuries ago.
I honestly think the said zambian in oms "story" was merely pulling oms leg to get a few bob out of him.
Mind we were told the same about the indians not wanting the british to leave , or how india was civilised by the empire , until we found out the indian sub continent was one of the richest places on earth through the textile trade prior to british rule , with a highly educated population , and as shashi tharoor said after 200 years of british civilisation , they were left as a poster boy for third world poverty ,starving and ill eductated and the british stole 45 trillion from them over 200 years....
How Britain stole $45 trillion from India
And lied about it.
There is a story that is commonly told in Britain that the colonisation of India – as horrible as it may have been – was not of any major economic benefit to Britain itself. If anything, the administration of India was a cost to Britain. So the fact that the empire was sustained for so long – the story goes – was a gesture of Britain’s benevolence.
New research by the renowned economist Utsa Patnaik – just published by Columbia University Press – deals a crushing blow to this narrative. Drawing on nearly two centuries of detailed data on tax and trade, Patnaik calculated that Britain drained a total of nearly $45 trillion from India during the period 1765 to 1938.
Tolkienesque fantasy from the old brit nat brexiters like b4 and many others on here.
Theres nothing wrong with being proud of england , and its a great country , but why the need to lie and make up jackanory stories.?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 12:59:52 GMT
Still relying on exclusive polls from The Independent - some foreign owned EUphile rag that's so shit they had to go out of print. Perhaps you should be more concerned with why you can't even convince a couple of million people to support you.
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 13:04:55 GMT
Still relying on exclusive polls from The Independent - some foreign owned EUphile rag that's so shit they had to go out of print. Perhaps you should be more concerned with why you can't even convince a couple of million people to support you. ah! back to shooting messengers because you dont like the message?
Heres a poll of polls here from a different platfrom....
Up to 1st march 2023 , 54 % think it wrong for uk to leave EU , with only 33 % thinking it right..........
Who was that earlier squealing about "puerile " debating now indulging in puerile debating because he doesnt like fact? tut tut
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 13:09:11 GMT
Thomas, your polls don't matter.
What matters is the already expressed democratic vote which you lost.
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Post by om15 on Mar 8, 2023 13:09:22 GMT
I know, Tommo hates it when he treats us to one of his anti British, anti English homilies and someone reminds him of the facts. As we watch the spectre of independence swirling down the plug hole of the SNP toilet it must be very upsetting for him, we must be understanding.
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Post by om15 on Mar 8, 2023 13:11:39 GMT
It was the Engineering Manager of Zambia Airways. We were buying two aircraft off them because they were skint and couldn't afford to operate them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 8, 2023 13:12:34 GMT
The only poll that mattered was the referendum. It seems to me that you're so sore from your pounding by decent, proud British Scots that all you can do is lash out at the Leave supporters. You lost the Scottish referendum, your indie parties are breaking down, and you have no purpose now other than to suck up to the EU. It happened throughout history, with the Nazis, the French, the Spanish and the USSR. ABE is in your blood, and that's why I actually thought it would be best for Scotland to succeed outside of the UK. Sadly, you cocked that up, and by the looks of it, your superiors outside of the UK didn't want you and thought it best to keep you as a trojan horse.
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 13:15:29 GMT
Thomas, your polls don't matter. What matters is the already expressed democratic vote which you lost. They matter because when sir keir wins the next general election , it gives him a sense of how people feel about rejoining the EU , and should encourage him to do so. At worst , since pacifico thinks northern irelands eu relationship is no big deal , then mr starmer can give us the same deal as well.............
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 13:17:07 GMT
I know, Tommo hates it when he treats us to one of his anti British, anti English homilies and someone reminds him of the facts. As we watch the spectre of independence swirling down the plug hole of the SNP toilet it must be very upsetting for him, we must be understanding. What facts have i been reminded of om? Spit it out please.?
Im beginning to think i should start charging for the lessons im giving on here about how the world works .
The world of reality really is a horrible place for you brexiters isnt it?
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 13:19:11 GMT
It was the Engineering Manager of Zambia Airways. We were buying two aircraft off them because they were skint and couldn't afford to operate them. so out of twenty million people , one guy held your hand and told you what you wanted to hear?
Fact om . We dont want anymore of your anecdotal fantasy stories. Has zambia the country requested to come back under london rule or not mate?
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 13:21:18 GMT
Thomas, your polls don't matter. What matters is the already expressed democratic vote which you lost. They matter because when sir keir wins the next general election , it gives him a sense of how people feel about rejoining the EU , and should encourage him to do so. At worst , since pacifico thinks northern irelands eu relationship is no big deal , then mr starmer can give us the same deal as well.............
Tick toc vinny. No, they don't matter, because Keir doesn't give a fuck about the tin pot SNP Nazis who consistently fall way below the threshold necessary to justify their idiotic separatist policies (which they use to distract numpties from their frequent and monumental failures in devolved government). The best thing to do is what Thatcher did to the GLC in the 1980's, abolish the devolved Parliament and reinstate direct rule from Westminster. Turn Holyrood into a casino. Tear down the statue of Donald Dewar, melt it down and make beer tankards out of it. |
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 13:23:14 GMT
The only poll that mattered was the referendum. It seems to me that you're so sore from your pounding by decent, proud British Scots that all you can do is lash out at the Leave supporters. You lost the Scottish referendum, your indie parties are breaking down, and you have no purpose now other than to suck up to the EU. It happened throughout history, with the Nazis, the French, the Spanish and the USSR. ABE is in your blood, and that's why I actually thought it would be best for Scotland to succeed outside of the UK. Sadly, you cocked that up, and by the looks of it, your superiors outside of the UK didn't want you and thought it best to keep you as a trojan horse. so. After shooting the messenger , you are now accepting the message with the caveat the status quo cant be changed because of a referendum 7 years ago?
We are back to lessons about democracy arent we b4? How democracy is a never endum ,and the purpose of voting is to change things .
You need to win the next general election . At the moment , it looks like pro euro starmer is heading for government , and a return to the EU for you. simple as that mate.
The british are being attacked from within the uk , with the northern irish british half way out already , and from without the uk , with a brino deal waiting down the lines as the tories lose interest , and labour wait in the wings.
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Post by thomas on Mar 8, 2023 13:24:29 GMT
They matter because when sir keir wins the next general election , it gives him a sense of how people feel about rejoining the EU , and should encourage him to do so. At worst , since pacifico thinks northern irelands eu relationship is no big deal , then mr starmer can give us the same deal as well.............
Tick toc vinny. No, they don't matter, because Keir doesn't give a fuck about the tin pot SNP Nazis who consistently fall way below the threshold necessary to justify their idiotic separatist policies (which they use to distract numpties from their frequent and monumental failures in devolved government). I didnt say keir starmer was a friend of scotland. The point im implying of course is we share pro european views.................and a strong sense of european citizenship and love of our european union. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 8, 2023 13:26:57 GMT
Once in a generation vote.
2034 is 11 years away.
And then it will be legitimate to hold a referendum (which you will lose).
But it was all about hating England, never true democracy for Scotland.
No point in it as the SNP want to hand everything over to the EU and that isn't independence.
Lets face it. What it boils down to, despite the missus, is you hate the English.
You made an exception to one English person because she's fuckable.
But the rest of the English you hate with an absolute visceral passion.
If England were in the world cup final against Russia, you'd support Russia over England.
You're a racist and a traitor.
And you support a party of racists and traitors.
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