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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 19, 2023 16:45:31 GMT
Yes, I knew Watford Electronics. Our office and workshops were on Old's Approach. I sometimes cycled to work along the Grand Union Canal. But I don't live there now. We moved up to Yorkshire mainly to be closer to family. Wewre you the one who nearly knocked me over at West Drayton? Nah - that was the Baron ! |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 21, 2023 18:39:59 GMT
"We need a sprint for zero carbon power by 2030"
Why? - what happens if we achieve that and more importantly what happens if we don't?.
Achieving zero carbon in the UK is not going to affect climate change, so what is the point of this 'sprint' - and more to the point, who is going to pay for it?
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Post by Orac on Mar 21, 2023 20:38:42 GMT
"We need a sprint for zero carbon power by 2030"
Why? - what happens if we achieve that and more importantly what happens if we don't?. An excellent question. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 21, 2023 20:50:58 GMT
"We need a sprint for zero carbon power by 2030"
Why? - what happens if we achieve that and more importantly what happens if we don't?. An excellent question. If you don't know the answers by now, you never will. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Mar 22, 2023 7:24:16 GMT
If you don't know the answers by now, you never will. No one knows the answers. Some people THINK they do but that's not the same thing. But never mind because we're going to find out - since the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is continuing to increase and shows no sign of stopping. My guess is that nothing will happen. Bodies like the IPCC will continue to make dire predictions and they'll continue to be wrong. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 22, 2023 8:01:35 GMT
If you don't know the answers by now, you never will. Well if you know all the answers then please share - why should the UK sprint to net zero in 2030? What would we gain and what would the cost be? |
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Post by Dan Dare on Mar 22, 2023 9:05:16 GMT
"We need a sprint for zero carbon power by 2030"
Why? - what happens if we achieve that and more importantly what happens if we don't?. Achieving zero carbon in the UK is not going to affect climate change, so what is the point of this 'sprint' - and more to the point, who is going to pay for it? It would be wrong to consider net-zero as an end in itself. It is intended as an aspirational slogan designed to reinforce the self-esteem and peer approval of those who recite it.
The closest recent analogue (apart from the Lineker Tendency) would be Jack Straw proclaiming in the House of Commons that the new Human Rights Act would allow Britain to present itself as a 'Beacon to the World'.
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Post by Orac on Mar 22, 2023 9:19:00 GMT
'Moon landing level' resources will be expended damaging the people they rule. They can then look themselves square in the mirror and say, with hand on their heart, 'I am truly a beacon'
It represents a breakthrough moment in political narcissism - taking it to the next level
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Post by zanygame on Mar 22, 2023 20:32:21 GMT
If you don't know the answers by now, you never will. Well if you know all the answers then please share - why should the UK sprint to net zero in 2030? What would we gain and what would the cost be? Why should I. They are all out there on google. The theories, the estimates, the evidence, the conclusions. Why on earth would I repeat them all again when you aren't listening. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 22, 2023 22:28:17 GMT
Well if you know all the answers then please share - why should the UK sprint to net zero in 2030? What would we gain and what would the cost be? Why should I. They are all out there on google. The theories, the estimates, the evidence, the conclusions. Why on earth would I repeat them all again when you aren't listening. Well fair enough if you don't know - nobody can know everything. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 22, 2023 22:30:35 GMT
Why should I. They are all out there on google. The theories, the estimates, the evidence, the conclusions. Why on earth would I repeat them all again when you aren't listening. Well fair enough if you don't know - nobody can know everything. How sad. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 23, 2023 6:50:35 GMT
Well fair enough if you don't know - nobody can know everything. How sad. I thought it was quite sharp.  |
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Post by Orac on Mar 23, 2023 7:04:25 GMT
If you don't know the answers by now, you never will. I think you need to give the question some thought As an example - ignoring the enormous economic damage and inconvenience, will the 2030s or 2040s look very different because the UK public have been forced out of their IC cars and their ic manufacture has been forcibly closed down? To me, this whole thing looks like some kind of enemy sabotage operation mixed with a large amount of corruption |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 23, 2023 7:40:07 GMT
If you don't know the answers by now, you never will. I think you need to give the question some thought As an example - ignoring the enormous economic damage and inconvenience, will the 2030s or 2040s look very different because the UK public have been forced out of their IC cars and their ic manufacture has been forcibly closed down? To me, this whole thing looks like some kind of enemy sabotage operation mixed with a large amount of corruption Well lay out your facts. What are the costs of doing something and what are the costs of doing nothing about climate change. |
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Post by Orac on Mar 23, 2023 8:32:52 GMT
I think you need to give the question some thought As an example - ignoring the enormous economic damage and inconvenience, will the 2030s or 2040s look very different because the UK public have been forced out of their IC cars and their ic manufacture has been forcibly closed down? To me, this whole thing looks like some kind of enemy sabotage operation mixed with a large amount of corruption Well lay out your facts. What are the costs of doing something and what are the costs of doing nothing about climate change. My estimation is that Britain's aggressive net zero enforcement (if it can be enforced) will do nothing but economically ruin the UK and strip important liberties from its people |
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