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Post by oracle75 on Feb 28, 2023 19:42:09 GMT
I was replying to Politico, not you.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 28, 2023 20:11:54 GMT
It's like listening to a toddler.
Blocked.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 28, 2023 20:24:07 GMT
It's like listening to a toddler. Blocked. You have guns PM |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 28, 2023 22:16:01 GMT
Well I'll take you through it. Once. When the EU, so called now, was set up, it dealt as a single market between 4 countries. So almost 100% of trade was with the group. As it started to settle down the commissioners, representatives of the EU made trade deals outside itself. The EU became bigger until it reached 28 countries, but they preferred to trade with each other because it was cheaper. So the commissioners made good deals with other countries and the 28 began to trade with a bigger and bigger number of partners Until one day The amount of business the EU did outside the EU was more than that which they did inside itself. With agreements with over 80 countries, it is expected that internal EU trade becomes less by comparison. Instead of EU trade declining, EU trade has been a success. Haven't you in the last 6 years discussed this before? If so, why are you still speaking idiot? What does that word salad mean? - it is an established fact that trade with the EU has been falling for years, even while we were in the Single Market - so rejoining the Single Market will not suddenly reverse that historic decline. If you believe that less trade in the Single Market is a sign of success that kinda explains your problems.. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2023 22:18:45 GMT
Creates most exciting economic zone. So only NI can have tariff free access to SM. Scotland which is angry enough coming out of the SM to threaten independence and the rest of the UK now said to be disadvantaged because it has no direct access to the SM, and Sunak admitted such double access is appealing to international investment If such dual access is so beneficial... And you voted against it Can you now tell me why you voted to leave the single market? According to leave-voting work associates, they voted to leave because they really thought leaving was just like cutting up your credit card and they also believed they could somehow 'get their hands' on the £350M weekly payments to the EU. Time to send the Eastern Europeans back to the EU was one reason mentioned. One said he thought it wouldn't affect him too much since he had a property overlooking a golf course in Marbella. Another mentioned the word sov'rntee but his voice trailed off and ended up muttering to himself. |
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 28, 2023 22:26:54 GMT
Creates most exciting economic zone. So only NI can have tariff free access to SM. Scotland which is angry enough coming out of the SM to threaten independence and the rest of the UK now said to be disadvantaged because it has no direct access to the SM, and Sunak admitted such double access is appealing to international investment If such dual access is so beneficial... And you voted against it Can you now tell me why you voted to leave the single market? According to leave-voting work associates, they voted to leave because they really thought leaving was just like cutting up your credit card and they also believed they could somehow 'get their hands' on the £350M weekly payments to the EU. Time to send the Eastern Europeans back to the EU was one reason mentioned. One said he thought it wouldn't affect him too much since he had a property overlooking a golf course in Marbella. Another mentioned the word sov'rntee but his voice trailed off and ended up muttering to himself. I'm surprised they haven't kicked the shit out of you, but you're probably not as annoying, condescending and patronising to people's faces as you are on here. |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 1, 2023 0:18:41 GMT
Our remoaners are fanatics.
They cannot comprehend that our trade with the EU despite tariff free and red tape free trade, was in decline when we were members hand in hand with drastic industrial decline that was harming large parts of our sovereign country. And overall GDP doesn't mean all was healthy. There's been food banks and other indicators of problems since 2000, back when 54% of our exports were to it.
But in Kim's mind everything was wonderful because she got to live in France without having to apply for a visa.
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 1, 2023 1:59:50 GMT
Creates most exciting economic zone. So only NI can have tariff free access to SM. Scotland which is angry enough coming out of the SM to threaten independence and the rest of the UK now said to be disadvantaged because it has no direct access to the SM, and Sunak admitted such double access is appealing to international investment If such dual access is so beneficial... And you voted against it Can you now tell me why you voted to leave the single market? LOL, you remind me of Major in 1992. In fact I still remember Heath in 1973, they both have one thing in common. They were both absolutely sold on the EU experiment, and absolutely lied to the British public. Please, tell me I'm wrong... |
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 1, 2023 7:51:16 GMT
Well I'll take you through it. Once. When the EU, so called now, was set up, it dealt as a single market between 4 countries. So almost 100% of trade was with the group. As it started to settle down the commissioners, representatives of the EU made trade deals outside itself. The EU became bigger until it reached 28 countries, but they preferred to trade with each other because it was cheaper. So the commissioners made good deals with other countries and the 28 began to trade with a bigger and bigger number of partners Until one day The amount of business the EU did outside the EU was more than that which they did inside itself. With agreements with over 80 countries, it is expected that internal EU trade becomes less by comparison. Instead of EU trade declining, EU trade has been a success. Haven't you in the last 6 years discussed this before? If so, why are you still speaking idiot? What does that word salad mean? - it is an established fact that trade with the EU has been falling for years, even while we were in the Single Market - so rejoining the Single Market will not suddenly reverse that historic decline. If you believe that less trade in the Single Market is a sign of success that kinda explains your problems.. Once again you have only used half a fact. Trade with the EU fell RELATIVE TO NON EU TRADE. Trade inside the EU can only be counted across 27 countries. Trade outside the EU is across 80 or more countries. You do the maths. |
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 1, 2023 7:55:24 GMT
Well it seems that according to the non elected UK prime minister, trade with the single market and within the UK "single market"is the most exciting economic situation in the West.
Can we please discuss the topic of the thread?
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 1, 2023 8:04:33 GMT
What does that word salad mean? - it is an established fact that trade with the EU has been falling for years, even while we were in the Single Market - so rejoining the Single Market will not suddenly reverse that historic decline. If you believe that less trade in the Single Market is a sign of success that kinda explains your problems.. Once again you have only used half a fact. Trade with the EU fell RELATIVE TO NON EU TRADE. Trade inside the EU can only be counted across 27 countries. Trade outside the EU is across 80 or more countries.
You do the maths. Indeed - Trade outside the EU is across 80 or more countries who we are not in a Single Market with. And it is that trade which is rising whilst trade with the countries we were actually in a Single Market with was falling. So the real benefit of being in a Single Market?.. |
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Post by oracle75 on Mar 1, 2023 11:11:30 GMT
Once again you have only used half a fact. Trade with the EU fell RELATIVE TO NON EU TRADE. Trade inside the EU can only be counted across 27 countries. Trade outside the EU is across 80 or more countries.
You do the maths. Indeed - Trade outside the EU is across 80 or more countries who we are not in a Single Market with. And it is that trade which is rising whilst trade with the countries we were actually in a Single Market with was falling. So the real benefit of being in a Single Market?.. Pacifico, if you genuinely don't understand about shared standards, policing, data sharing, large projects done together, standard paperwork, and global political weight through trade, how can you discuss the EU? The intra EU trade was not falling. The 27 were looking for new markets and sometimes the UK couldn't compete. Trade has to do with BUSINESSES competing for it. Clearly it hasn't learned. Britishvolt has just been sold to Australia. The UK cannot sustain its own economy. 9 |
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Post by Vinny on Mar 1, 2023 11:35:21 GMT
Once again you have only used half a fact. Trade with the EU fell RELATIVE TO NON EU TRADE. Trade inside the EU can only be counted across 27 countries. Trade outside the EU is across 80 or more countries.
You do the maths. Indeed - Trade outside the EU is across 80 or more countries who we are not in a Single Market with. And it is that trade which is rising whilst trade with the countries we were actually in a Single Market with was falling. So the real benefit of being in a Single Market?.. There were no benefits, except in the delusional minds of free movement loving extreme lefties who cannot see the serious flaws with the project and do not actually know what the policies of the EU are or how they work. Our trade with it was in decline. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2023 11:39:16 GMT
Sunak's deal seemingly gives Northern Ireland unfettered access to both the EU Single Market and the UK domestic market. Surely, that places NI in the most advantageous, best possible position. No wonder Scotland is complaining.
Sunak has been called a closet Remainer and a BRINO endorser for it, but it is a wonder why Johnson and his government couldn't achieve it. Or anything useful, for that matter. Methinks, he and his gang were too busy turning Brexit into a political cult populated by dogmatic purists and belligerent Europhobes who couldn't decide whether to play the innocent victim or the arrogant victor. Wait; actually, they played both roles depending on the argument.
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 1, 2023 12:21:53 GMT
Indeed - Trade outside the EU is across 80 or more countries who we are not in a Single Market with. And it is that trade which is rising whilst trade with the countries we were actually in a Single Market with was falling. So the real benefit of being in a Single Market?.. Pacifico, if you genuinely don't understand about shared standards, policing, data sharing, large projects done together, standard paperwork, and global political weight through trade, how can you discuss the EU? But we were achieving faster trade growth with countries who we did not do all that with. So obviously its importance to economic growth is marginal - I do however accept that it is vital to the political one government project that is the EU. Failed company gets bought out - sounds like the UK economy is working fine. |
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