|
|
Post by see2 on Mar 1, 2023 11:24:20 GMT
Remember Blair and Labour 24 Hours to save the NHS what changed not a lot they did not even get rid of mixed wards as they promised , then what did he do he opened the flood gates to thousands of people from Asia to come here more patients for the NHS As for the Lie the left peddle and have done for years the Tory's want to privatize the NHS what a LOB, they have told that lie enough they now believe their own lie, Tory's had years to do it in and it has not happened . Private Hospitals have been in place in the UK for flipping years, Private Companies built them created them not the Tories , some of the Companies are not UK based either, Private Hospitals actually reduce NHS waiting lists a little by treating NHS Patients, those that can pay or have Private Medical Insurance and avail themselves of Private Care means a lower demand on the NHS. In early March 2021 when Covid had arrived the Tories initiative which they had put in place earlier to recruit more Nurses and Doctors showed there were 123,000 Doctors and 301,491 Nurses in the NHS an increase from 2020 of an extra 6.600 Doctors and an increase of 10,900 Nurses. Due to the increase of the Population of the UK which is added to every day by new arrivals the population is now roughly 66 Million, the NHS cannot possibly deal with the demand on it now a least a million people a day present themselves to A&E. GP's we were short of then long before Covid arrived Blair's 24 hour to save the NHS was a warning that the already seriously run down NHS would be likely to remain that way if the Tories won the election. Thatcher ran down the NHS and offered a cash incentive for people to go private. Of course private hospitals have existed for "flipping years" those with the wealth have always looked after themselves. Needs must in a pandemic. The increase in hospital staff was a necessity. I agree entirely that the NHS needs restructuring, Blairs late idea to have the Private sector do certain types of operations, paid for by the NHS sounded like a good one. I recall at one point under NL they were accused of training too many doctors. |
|
|
|
Post by dodgydave on Mar 1, 2023 14:12:35 GMT
Remember Blair and Labour 24 Hours to save the NHS what changed not a lot they did not even get rid of mixed wards as they promised , then what did he do he opened the flood gates to thousands of people from Asia to come here more patients for the NHS As for the Lie the left peddle and have done for years the Tory's want to privatize the NHS what a LOB, they have told that lie enough they now believe their own lie, Tory's had years to do it in and it has not happened . Private Hospitals have been in place in the UK for flipping years, Private Companies built them created them not the Tories , some of the Companies are not UK based either, Private Hospitals actually reduce NHS waiting lists a little by treating NHS Patients, those that can pay or have Private Medical Insurance and avail themselves of Private Care means a lower demand on the NHS. In early March 2021 when Covid had arrived the Tories initiative which they had put in place earlier to recruit more Nurses and Doctors showed there were 123,000 Doctors and 301,491 Nurses in the NHS an increase from 2020 of an extra 6.600 Doctors and an increase of 10,900 Nurses. Due to the increase of the Population of the UK which is added to every day by new arrivals the population is now roughly 66 Million, the NHS cannot possibly deal with the demand on it now a least a million people a day present themselves to A&E. GP's we were short of then long before Covid arrived Blair's 24 hour to save the NHS was a warning that the already seriously run down NHS would be likely to remain that way if the Tories won the election. Thatcher ran down the NHS and offered a cash incentive for people to go private. Of course private hospitals have existed for "flipping years" those with the wealth have always looked after themselves. Needs must in a pandemic. The increase in hospital staff was a necessity. I agree entirely that the NHS needs restructuring, Blairs late idea to have the Private sector do certain types of operations, paid for by the NHS sounded like a good one. I recall at one point under NL they were accused of training too many doctors. Are you hearing anything from Starmer that is going to solve it though? All I'm hearing is some hair brained populist bollocks about scrapping non-dom. 1) GP and dental surgeries need to be brought into the NHS and pay GPs and Dentist £150k so they spent half their time on private work. 2) Ban smoking 3) Increase tax on alcohol so it becomes a weekly indulgence, rather than daily. 4) Increase tax on high sugar foods. 5) Scrap VAT on health foods such as fruit and veg. 6) Tax relief for gym membership 7) Stop this snowflake narrative that it is ok to be fat! |
|
|
|
Post by Fairsociety on Mar 1, 2023 15:04:23 GMT
Blair's 24 hour to save the NHS was a warning that the already seriously run down NHS would be likely to remain that way if the Tories won the election. Thatcher ran down the NHS and offered a cash incentive for people to go private. Of course private hospitals have existed for "flipping years" those with the wealth have always looked after themselves. Needs must in a pandemic. The increase in hospital staff was a necessity. I agree entirely that the NHS needs restructuring, Blairs late idea to have the Private sector do certain types of operations, paid for by the NHS sounded like a good one. I recall at one point under NL they were accused of training too many doctors. Are you hearing anything from Starmer that is going to solve it though? All I'm hearing is some hair brained populist bollocks about scrapping non-dom. 1) GP and dental surgeries need to be brought into the NHS and pay GPs and Dentist £150k so they spent half their time on private work. 2) Ban smoking 3) Increase tax on alcohol so it becomes a weekly indulgence, rather than daily. 4) Increase tax on high sugar foods. 5) Scrap VAT on health foods such as fruit and veg. 6) Tax relief for gym membership 7) Stop this snowflake narrative that it is ok to be fat! Quite ironic that Labour want to ride in like knights in shining armour to save the NHS, when it was them and Blair that's fucked it up. |
|
|
|
Post by Bentley on Mar 1, 2023 15:22:23 GMT
This is the kind of shit that Labour will indulge in Covid inquiry: Race should be at its core, say campaigners www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64783753Lobby Akinnola, whose father, Femi, died with Covid in April 2020 at the age of 60, said "there's no way [race] couldn't have" played a role in his dad's death. |
|
|
|
Post by totheleft3 on Mar 1, 2023 15:32:18 GMT
Are you hearing anything from Starmer that is going to solve it though? All I'm hearingnew is some hair brained populist bollocks about scrapping non-dom. 1) GP and dental surgeries need to be brought into the NHS and pay GPs and Dentist £150k so they spent half their time on private work. 2) Ban smoking 3) Increase tax on alcohol so it becomes a weekly indulgence, rather than daily. 4) Increase tax on high sugar foods. 5) Scrap VAT on health foods such as fruit and veg. 6) Tax relief for gym membership 7) Stop this snowflake narrative that it is ok to be fat! Quite ironic that Labour want to ride in like knights in shining armour to save the NHS, when it was them and Blair that's fucked it up. What a load of rubbish under Blair and a New labour Govement 100 new hospitals was Built life expentency increased by 10yrs waiting list was 6 weeks A.E waiting times was 4hrs. New NHS walk in centers were set up and the NHS help phone line was set up. |
|
|
|
Post by see2 on Mar 1, 2023 15:36:17 GMT
Lower but much older population A population free of illegals. Fairy-land. |
|
|
|
Post by Fairsociety on Mar 1, 2023 15:39:02 GMT
This is the kind of shit that Labour will indulge in Covid inquiry: Race should be at its core, say campaigners www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64783753Lobby Akinnola, whose father, Femi, died with Covid in April 2020 at the age of 60, said "there's no way [race] couldn't have" played a role in his dad's death. Labour have politically manipulated the Covid pandemic to their own advantage, they've used it as leverage to climb the political ladder. We need to put this into prospective, Labour have used the deaths of Covid victims and their families to score political points, whatever you say about Hancock it can't be any more despicable, deplorable and damn right immoral to exploit the deaths of Covid victims, and then use their families and loved ones to make political gain. |
|
|
|
Post by see2 on Mar 1, 2023 15:39:06 GMT
Blair's 24 hour to save the NHS was a warning that the already seriously run down NHS would be likely to remain that way if the Tories won the election. Thatcher ran down the NHS and offered a cash incentive for people to go private. Of course private hospitals have existed for "flipping years" those with the wealth have always looked after themselves. Needs must in a pandemic. The increase in hospital staff was a necessity. I agree entirely that the NHS needs restructuring, Blairs late idea to have the Private sector do certain types of operations, paid for by the NHS sounded like a good one. I recall at one point under NL they were accused of training too many doctors. Are you hearing anything from Starmer that is going to solve it though? All I'm hearing is some hair brained populist bollocks about scrapping non-dom. 1) GP and dental surgeries need to be brought into the NHS and pay GPs and Dentist £150k so they spent half their time on private work. 2) Ban smoking 3) Increase tax on alcohol so it becomes a weekly indulgence, rather than daily. 4) Increase tax on high sugar foods. 5) Scrap VAT on health foods such as fruit and veg. 6) Tax relief for gym membership 7) Stop this snowflake narrative that it is ok to be fat! Not yet, but what's the rush? |
|
|
|
Post by see2 on Mar 1, 2023 15:49:35 GMT
Quite ironic that Labour want to ride in like knights in shining armour to save the NHS, when it was them and Blair that's fucked it up. What a load of rubbish under Blair and a New labour Govement 100 new hospitals was Built life expentency increased by 10yrs waiting list was 6 weeks A.E waiting times was 4hrs. New NHS walk in centers were set up and the NHS help phone line was set up. I had to take my wife to a NHS Walk-in Centre some years ago, it worked well. After registering at the desk with a brief reason for your visit, you could sit down and would be called in order of your apparent need, not in order of registering. I think the Tories scrapped them? Could be wrong. |
|
|
|
Post by see2 on Mar 1, 2023 15:52:30 GMT
This is the kind of shit that Labour will indulge in Covid inquiry: Race should be at its core, say campaigners www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-64783753Lobby Akinnola, whose father, Femi, died with Covid in April 2020 at the age of 60, said "there's no way [race] couldn't have" played a role in his dad's death. Labour have politically manipulated the Covid pandemic to their own advantage, they've used it as leverage to climb the political ladder. We need to put this into prospective, Labour have used the deaths of Covid victims and their families to score political points, whatever you say about Hancock it can't be any more despicable, deplorable and damn right immoral to exploit the deaths of Covid victims, and then use their families and loved ones to make political gain. That would be disgracefull, if proven to be true. Let the board know when proof arrives. |
|
|
|
Post by totheleft3 on Mar 1, 2023 15:58:46 GMT
Whatin a load of rubbish under Blair and a New labour Govement 100 new hospitals was Built life expentency increased by 10yrs waiting list was 6 weeks A.E waiting times was 4hrs. New NHS walk in centers were set up and the NHS help phone line was set up. I had to take my wife to a NHS Walk-in Centre some years ago, it worked well. After registering at the desk with a brief reason for your visit, you could sit down and would be called in order of your apparent need, not in order of registering. I think the Tories scrapped them? Could be wrong. No they not scraped them all think there only a few remaining one of my local NHS walk In centers has closed down it was massive in a Arndale center . walk in centers were very pratactical way off dealing with GP and A.E ques |
|
|
|
Post by Fairsociety on Mar 1, 2023 15:59:13 GMT
Labour have politically manipulated the Covid pandemic to their own advantage, they've used it as leverage to climb the political ladder. We need to put this into prospective, Labour have used the deaths of Covid victims and their families to score political points, whatever you say about Hancock it can't be any more despicable, deplorable and damn right immoral to exploit the deaths of Covid victims, and then use their families and loved ones to make political gain. That would be disgracefull, if proven to be true. Let the board know when proof arrives. It's not just disgraceful it's depraved, what more proof do you need?
Watch, and listen to how Labour are using those deaths to get a leg up the political ladder, get a head in the polls, if that's not exploiting Covid victims and their families, then I don't know what is.
|
|
|
|
Post by totheleft3 on Mar 1, 2023 16:05:41 GMT
And your telling me the torys wouldn't done the same thing if it happened under a labour Government.
The whole Covid affair under the Tory Governance was a disaster .
And they should face the Music
|
|
|
|
Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 2, 2023 9:02:06 GMT
The whole Covid affair under the Tory Governance was a disaster... Bullshit. In terms of deaths per million, we're way down the table at 24th in the world. Considering the population density of the UK, that's excellent going. It wasn't perfect, but the government did a good job. |
|
|
|
Post by sheepy on Mar 2, 2023 9:12:22 GMT
And your telling me the torys wouldn't done the same thing if it happened under a labour Government. The whole Covid affair under the Tory Governance was a disaster . And they should face the Music Except the Westminster party all agreed on the way forward, but now it has been pointed out it was basically pure fascism Labour blame the Tories, hilarious. When obviously they are two sides of the same coin. |
|
