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Post by sheepy on Mar 5, 2023 13:50:45 GMT
If I want to read the daily dose of pointless scapegoating I will let you know, by asking again how do you turn something that is the envy of the world into a monster that is ever hungry.
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Post by Toreador on Mar 5, 2023 14:30:33 GMT
Ah so the fault is that the PM didn't sack the senior management in the NHS for being useless. Well if the PM went around sacking all the useless Public Sector employees it would do a lot of good for the economy - would bugger up Union membership though. You really are beyond redemption. Sacking senior management is your hiding place. I only suggested waking them up so as to do the job they presumably should have been doing. That idiot PM failed to do anything at all. Let's see how many more deviations you can come up with before the penny drops. Waking them up will show up a number of courses of action: 1) They'll jack the job in. 2) They'll get the sack. 3) They'll realise they're just not up to it. 4) Their education was sadly lacking. 5) It's averyone else's fault, especially patients. I phoned my county health trust a few times and when I did get through, I thought I was talking to the geriatric club. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 5, 2023 15:49:11 GMT
You really are beyond redemption. Sacking senior management is your hiding place. I only suggested waking them up so as to do the job they presumably should have been doing. That idiot PM failed to do anything at all. Let's see how many more deviations you can come up with before the penny drops. Waking them up will show up a number of courses of action: 1) They'll jack the job in. 2) They'll get the sack. 3) They'll realise they're just not up to it. 4) Their education was sadly lacking. 5) It's averyone else's fault, especially patients. I phoned my county health trust a few times and when I did get through, I thought I was talking to the geriatric club. Firstly, whoever was responsible had obviously failed to do their job. So when the evidence was put to Boris by his own advisers, he became the person who had the responsibility to see that something was done about it. Secondly, you find out who has direct responsibility for ensuring that the reserves of Pandemic equipment are kept up to date and take it from there. I have not seen evidence of just who was responsible, have you? |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Mar 5, 2023 16:29:51 GMT
FFS there was a case in the UK of where a man left hospital after having had the virus and was killed on his way home with a bus. Still in denial then, still presenting one off cases as being the norm. You do know some died of Covid over 28 days after the test and were recorded as not Covid deaths You and Red and all the other DT/DM drones go look at the deaths cert data, the correlation with excess deaths, the correlation with hospital numbers on ventilators and then take your heads out of your arses Correlation isn't causation. You need to learn the difference. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 5, 2023 17:34:17 GMT
Ah so the fault is that the PM didn't sack the senior management in the NHS for being useless. Well if the PM went around sacking all the useless Public Sector employees it would do a lot of good for the economy - would bugger up Union membership though. You really are beyond redemption. Sacking senior management is your hiding place. I only suggested waking them up so as to do the job they presumably should have been doing. That idiot PM failed to do anything at all. Let's see how many more deviations you can come up with before the penny drops. So managers on higher salaries than the PM need him to go around and tell them to do their jobs.. Looks like the type of people the NHS have as managers needs reassessing.. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 6, 2023 0:06:06 GMT
You really are beyond redemption. Sacking senior management is your hiding place. I only suggested waking them up so as to do the job they presumably should have been doing. That idiot PM failed to do anything at all. Let's see how many more deviations you can come up with before the penny drops. So managers on higher salaries than the PM need him to go around and tell them to do their jobs.. Looks like the type of people the NHS have as managers needs reassessing.. It shouldn't, but it obviously did need him to do just that. IF THEY WERE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE, not withstanding the fact that the responsibility ended up in Boris' lap. And guess what? Looked like the PM needed reassessing, and he eventually was. |
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Post by Steve on Mar 6, 2023 0:29:41 GMT
Still in denial then, still presenting one off cases as being the norm. You do know some died of Covid over 28 days after the test and were recorded as not Covid deaths You and Red and all the other DT/DM drones go look at the deaths cert data, the correlation with excess deaths, the correlation with hospital numbers on ventilators and then take your heads out of your arses Correlation isn't causation. You need to learn the difference. Correlation is evidence of possible causation. It certainly is not disproof of causation. |
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Post by Steve on Mar 6, 2023 0:30:37 GMT
You've been given the maths before. You're wrong Is that the maths according to saint steve?....I rest my case. Well it did use double digit numbers so it probably was beyond you. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 6, 2023 3:07:40 GMT
Is that the maths according to saint steve?....I rest my case. Well it did use double digit numbers so it probably was beyond you. You used BS as you always do. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 6, 2023 6:52:38 GMT
You really are beyond redemption. Sacking senior management is your hiding place. I only suggested waking them up so as to do the job they presumably should have been doing. That idiot PM failed to do anything at all. Let's see how many more deviations you can come up with before the penny drops. So managers on higher salaries than the PM need him to go around and tell them to do their jobs.. Looks like the type of people the NHS have as managers needs reassessing..Be wary of what you wish for. |
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Post by Pacifico on Mar 6, 2023 8:02:21 GMT
So managers on higher salaries than the PM need him to go around and tell them to do their jobs.. Looks like the type of people the NHS have as managers needs reassessing.. It shouldn't, but it obviously did need him to do just that. IF THEY WERE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE, If they were not responsible what is the point of them? Why do we need someone on a 6 figure salary in charge of NHS Supply Chain if they are not responsible for rotating the stock before it become life-ex? What is the CEO of the NHS responsible for (if anything) in exchange for her £250k a year salary? The NHS is paying vast amounts of money to hundreds of senior managers yet according to you they have no responsibilities.. it's weird. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 6, 2023 8:39:05 GMT
It shouldn't, but it obviously did need him to do just that. IF THEY WERE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE, If they were not responsible what is the point of them? Why do we need someone on a 6 figure salary in charge of NHS Supply Chain if they are not responsible for rotating the stock before it become life-ex? What is the CEO of the NHS responsible for (if anything) in exchange for her £250k a year salary? The NHS is paying vast amounts of money to hundreds of senior managers yet according to you they have no responsibilities.. it's weird. It's a question of wehere the buck stops. In see2's eyes it was with Boris but had Labour been in power it would have been the hospital trust CEO. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 6, 2023 9:36:41 GMT
It shouldn't, but it obviously did need him to do just that. IF THEY WERE THE ONES RESPONSIBLE, If they were not responsible what is the point of them? Why do we need someone on a 6 figure salary in charge of NHS Supply Chain if they are not responsible for rotating the stock before it become life-ex? What is the CEO of the NHS responsible for (if anything) in exchange for her £250k a year salary? The NHS is paying vast amounts of money to hundreds of senior managers yet according to you they have no responsibilities.. it's weird. 1. I don't see your proof in this case. Why was the information given directly to Boris by his own advisers in the first place? 2. You might be right but A/ I see no proof nd B/ whose job was it to pick up on the problem once it had been reported to Boris? 3. You tell me along with evidence. 4. A stupid made up lie. |
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Post by see2 on Mar 6, 2023 9:45:21 GMT
If they were not responsible what is the point of them? Why do we need someone on a 6 figure salary in charge of NHS Supply Chain if they are not responsible for rotating the stock before it become life-ex? What is the CEO of the NHS responsible for (if anything) in exchange for her £250k a year salary? The NHS is paying vast amounts of money to hundreds of senior managers yet according to you they have no responsibilities.. it's weird. It's a question of wehere the buck stops. In see2's eyes it was with Boris but had Labour been in power it would have been the hospital trust CEO. The problem was revealed to Boris so the responsibility to take some action rested with him. If the responsibility to keep the reserves up to date rested elsewhere and it had been overlooked then those responsible would be oblivious of the problem because Boris would have been the only one with the information. It seems that the information got no further than Boris. |
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Post by Toreador on Mar 6, 2023 9:49:49 GMT
It's a question of wehere the buck stops. In see2's eyes it was with Boris but had Labour been in power it would have been the hospital trust CEO. The problem was revealed to Boris so the responsibility to take some action rested with him. If the responsibility to keep the reserves up to date rested elsewhere and it had been overlooked then those responsible would be oblivious of the problem because Boris would have been the only one with the information. It seems that the information got no further than Boris. Do you know whether or not Boris rattled a few cages once he knew of the situation? |
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