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Post by Toreador on Feb 27, 2023 23:29:16 GMT
It was only unknown to the dolts. :@ How come we are now in that somewhere space wondering how the country is going to get out of the mess Brexit has created? The mess was created by joining and by politicians; they may still be creating it. Vote for Farage's party; perhaps you'd like me to arrange a meeting with you.  |
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Post by see2 on Feb 27, 2023 23:41:12 GMT
How come we are now in that somewhere space wondering how the country is going to get out of the mess Brexit has created? The mess was created by joining and by politicians; they may still be creating it. Vote for Farage's party; perhaps you'd like me to arrange a meeting with you. We are deeper in the mire since leaving. As for Farage he is one of the few people that I quite quickly to a strong dislike to, something about him just doesn't wring true for me. I think you already know I can't stand the man. |
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 27, 2023 23:46:34 GMT
The mess was created by joining and by politicians; they may still be creating it. Vote for Farage's party; perhaps you'd like me to arrange a meeting with you. As for Farage he is one of the few people that I quite quickly to a strong dislike to, something about him just doesn't wring true for me. I think you already know I can't stand the man. How so? |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 28, 2023 3:20:32 GMT
'It's a complete and utter game changer - let's move on and get the best we can out of Brexit': Former Brexit Secretaries DOMINIC RAAB, STEVE BARCLAY and DAVID DAVIS give their backing to the Northern Ireland Protocol We owe it to the people of our whole United Kingdom to deliver Brexit We know that a huge part of the vote was about restoring sovereignty of the UK
A prosperous Britain, alongside a prosperous Europe, is good for the entire world. Now that Brexit is out of the way, when are we going to see "Made in the United Kingdom of Great Britain" goods on our shelves, huh? Long ago we used to cherish ICI medicines....today we only hear about "love island", or BGT decadence. Britain, Go back to the factory floor and make things for the world!' In 2016 we all voted to leave the EUSSR and take back control of our laws, our borders and our seas. It was the right choice for our country and it was the largest democratic vote in British political history. We owe it to the people of our whole United Kingdom to both deliver Brexit and make sure that it works for everyone, so that people and businesses across our country can reap the benefits that are on offer. As former Brexit secretaries, we know that a huge part of the vote to leave was about restoring the sovereignty of the UK. People across our country – including the three of us – voted to leave the European Union because we’d had enough of a European rulebook being dumped on us from on high. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11800599/DOMINIC-RAAB-STEVE-BARCLAY-DAVID-DAVIS-backing-Northern-Ireland-Protocol.html |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 28, 2023 6:13:57 GMT
Not too far off, 55 to 60% Most remnants have the brains and integrity to accept democrocy...Unlike the juveniles who will still be blaming brexit when they go tits up. Very few people support the one vote democracy where the public are denied the right to change their minds. As far as I can see a system where you get one vote and are then stuck with the result whatever happens is not called democracy. |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 28, 2023 6:25:58 GMT
The mess was created by joining and by politicians; they may still be creating it. Vote for Farage's party; perhaps you'd like me to arrange a meeting with you. We are deeper in the mire since leaving. As for Farage he is one of the few people that I quite quickly to a strong dislike to, something about him just doesn't wring true for me. I think you already know I can't stand the man. Like I view Blair. |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 28, 2023 6:35:55 GMT
Most remnants have the brains and integrity to accept democrocy...Unlike the juveniles who will still be blaming brexit when they go tits up. Very few people support the one vote democracy where the public are denied the right to change their minds. As far as I can see a system where you get one vote and are then stuck with the result whatever happens is not called democracy. You mean like the one vote democracy that we were stuck with for forty one years when Heath held the first referendum and our political masters slowly but surely ratifying treaty after treaty without any meaningful reference to us slowly but surely enveloped us in to a web of regulations and laws that have proved the real mess. As a true believer in democracy you will be happy to wait the forty one years we did to get your chance to reverse it? |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 28, 2023 6:41:08 GMT
Very few people support the one vote democracy where the public are denied the right to change their minds. As far as I can see a system where you get one vote and are then stuck with the result whatever happens is not called democracy. slowly but surely enveloped us in to a web of regulations and laws that have proved the real mess. Yes that's the similar, are you happy to repeat that? As a true believer in democracy I would not want to repeat something we both consider undemocratic. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 28, 2023 6:44:28 GMT
Most remnants have the brains and integrity to accept democrocy...Unlike the juveniles who will still be blaming brexit when they go tits up. Very few people support the one vote democracy where the public are denied the right to change their minds. As far as I can see a system where you get one vote and are then stuck with the result whatever happens is not called democracy. Of course ut is....We all know the remnants like the EUSSR's idea of multiple referendums until they get the results they want. I wonder if you would still hold that view if the remain side had won? |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 28, 2023 6:47:07 GMT
You mean like the one vote democracy that we were stuck with for forty one years when Heath held the first referendum and our political masters slowly but surely ratifying treaty after treaty without any meaningful reference to us slowly but surely enveloped us in to a web of regulations and laws that have proved the real mess. Care to spell out your proposals to overturn the 2016 result. Yes forty one years ok. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 28, 2023 6:50:23 GMT
Yes that's the similar, are you happy to repeat that? Care to spell out your proposals to overturn the 2016 result. Yes forty one years ok. And a blatant lie. |
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Post by wapentake on Feb 28, 2023 6:59:38 GMT
No reply then Zanygame,I’ll speculate then and feel free to put me straight,you don’t approve of referenda?
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Post by Toreador on Feb 28, 2023 7:10:01 GMT
You mean like the one vote democracy that we were stuck with for forty one years when Heath held the first referendum and our political masters slowly but surely ratifying treaty after treaty without any meaningful reference to us slowly but surely enveloped us in to a web of regulations and laws that have proved the real mess. Yes that's the similar, are you happy to repeat that? As a true believer in democracy I would not want to repeat something we both consider undemocratic.
You need to move away from Britain if you're seeking true democracy but don't ask where you should move to. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 28, 2023 7:18:34 GMT
Yes that's the similar, are you happy to repeat that? As a true believer in democracy I would not want to repeat something we both consider undemocratic.
You need to move away from Britain if you're seeking true democracy but don't ask where you should move to. Isn't it absurd that these remnants harp on about democrocy but wish to be controlled by unelected failed polits where there is no mechanism to remove them once they have been chosen behind closed doors? |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 28, 2023 7:35:04 GMT
Most remnants have the brains and integrity to accept democrocy...Unlike the juveniles who will still be blaming brexit when they go tits up. Very few people support the one vote democracy where the public are denied the right to change their minds. As far as I can see a system where you get one vote and are then stuck with the result whatever happens is not called democracy. Well that is nonsense. If you want a vote on joining the EU vote for a party promising you a vote on joining the EU - which is precisely what enough people did to force a referendum in the first place. If you only vote for parties who are unwilling to allow a vote you only have yourself to blame. I would just point out that we have had 2 General Elections since the referendum vote. |
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