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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2023 11:32:56 GMT
Sitting back and waiting for the Tories to fail while having nothing to add but promises is a dangerous strategy for Labour.
Firstly it reveals that Labour has no real substance and secondly it allows the Tories to fight back.
If Rishi settles the economy down and throws money around just before the next GE , it gives the Tories a real chance to survive in government.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2023 11:41:02 GMT
There is a growing perception that "anything has got to be better than this"
There s also a growing perception that Starmer is been up front with the electorate, saying for example that a Labour government cannot borrow to do all the things they want to do, or that they wont be able to crack eggs with sticks, or put everything right in a year, or even in a first term.
What Starmer is gradually doing is outlining what a Labour governments priorities will be, and in some instances HE IS EXPLAINING HOW IT WILL BE FUNDED, like stopping the non-domicile status, putting revenue into the NHS combined with reform, to repair the immense damage of the past 12 years.
Stopping charitable status to private schools, putting THAT money into education ( state education ).
But the bottom line here is that no political party, including the Conservatives, publish their manifesto until the commencement of a general election campaign.
What you are going to get ( probably from all parties ) is a series of policy announcements, and Keir Starmer did say this yesterday, so watch this space, and wait for it.
I fully expect some key announcements during the local elections campaign, in which I believe the Tories will come off very badly, and I rather suspect that with barely 18 months to go, real panic will set in to the Tory Party, which is already bitterly divided.
As Seargeant Fraser of Dads Army would say to the Conservatives "We're doomed"
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Post by jonksy on Feb 24, 2023 11:42:50 GMT
There is a growing perception that "anything has got to be better than this"There s also a growing perception that Starmer is been up front with the electorate, saying for example that a Labour government cannot borrow to do all the things they want to do, or that they wont be able to crack eggs with sticks, or put everything right in a year, or even in a first term. What Starmer is gradually doing is outlining what a Labour governments priorities will be, and in some instances HE IS EXPLAINING HOW IT WILL BE FUNDED, like stopping the non-domicile status, putting revenue into the NHS combined with reform, to repair the immense damage of the past 12 years. Stopping charitable status to private schools, putting THAT money into education ( state education ). But the bottom line here is that no political party, including the Conservatives, publish their manifesto until the commencement of a general election campaign. What you are going to get ( probably from all parties ) is a series of policy announcements, and Keir Starmer did say this yesterday, so watch this space, and wait for it. I fully expect some key announcements during the local elections campaign, in which I believe the Tories will come off very badly, and I rather suspect that with barely 18 months to go, real panic will set in to the Tory Party, which is already bitterly divided. As Seargeant Fraser of Dads Army would say to the Conservatives "We're doomed" So what do you suggest? As if we didn't know... |
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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 24, 2023 11:45:40 GMT
As Keir Starmer quite rightly stated .... better to have goals to aim for, than no aspirations at all, and they are noble aspirations based partly upon 13 years of TORY FAILURE. To achieve high sustained growth ... Building an NHS fit for the future ... Break down barriers to opportunity ... Make Britains streets safe ... Make Britain a clean energy superpower ... Yes, lovely. But how? That's the question. And Starmer hasn't answered. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 24, 2023 11:48:32 GMT
The difference between the Shadow Cabinet and the government The shadow cabinet have no record to compare to The government have .... enough said Plenty said but nothing of any consequence by Starmer . He is the new Ed Milliband. So you have started already. Plenty of time for substance. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 24, 2023 11:50:27 GMT
The substance as always is shit...
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Post by see2 on Feb 24, 2023 11:51:46 GMT
Except of course that Ed Miliband never really made any BIG breakthrough in the opinion polls ... unlike Mr Starmer. Next Stop: The local elections in May, then watch the real panic set in amongst the Tories I never claimed that they had the same history. Starmer is as useless as Milliband . Labour is dependent on Tory failure. As you pointed out , the Labour opposition has nothing to gauge it by , only Starmers kneeling and Rayners sneering . You are of course entitled to your trite opinion. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2023 11:53:52 GMT
Plenty said but nothing of any consequence by Starmer . He is the new Ed Milliband. So you have started already. Plenty of time for substance. Started what? |
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Post by see2 on Feb 24, 2023 11:54:37 GMT
The substance as always is shit... You are posting true to form as forecast earlier in the thread. Thankfully your opinion has no substance, not even shite substance, just a big '0'. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2023 11:55:30 GMT
I never claimed that they had the same history. Starmer is as useless as Milliband . Labour is dependent on Tory failure. As you pointed out , the Labour opposition has nothing to gauge it by , only Starmers kneeling and Rayners sneering . You are of course entitled to your trite opinion. Now let others see what you are . The very first reply to both my posts are jibes. Now when I laugh at you everyone can see why.😁 |
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Post by see2 on Feb 24, 2023 11:55:44 GMT
So you have started already. Plenty of time for substance. Started what? I know how dense you can be ^^^ when you decide to be. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 24, 2023 11:56:50 GMT
I know how dense you can be ^^^ when you decide to be. And yet another jibe from see2 . Note that this is the second unprovoked jibe .😁 |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 24, 2023 11:58:40 GMT
You are of course entitled to your trite opinion. Now let others see what you are . The very first reply to both my posts are jibes. Now when I laugh at you everyone can see why.😁 Every forum has it's village idiot mate...And c2 proves the fact... |
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Post by see2 on Feb 24, 2023 11:59:18 GMT
You are of course entitled to your trite opinion. Now let others see what you are . The very first reply to both my posts are jibes. Now when pI laugh at you everyone can see why.😁 My two first replies were truthful information passed back to you. You are acting (I think you're acting) dumb, and I don't care  |
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Post by see2 on Feb 24, 2023 12:01:03 GMT
I know how dense you can be ^^^ when you decide to be. And yet another jibe from see2 . Note that this is the second unprovoked jibe .😁 It's just another fact put your way, and you know its true |
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