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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 23, 2023 13:25:08 GMT
Why are you doing a Starmer, is it a leftie thing?
Just answer a direct question with a Yes or No.
So you now agree, they can find somewhere to live, then ask the government to pay the rent, it might not be their desired accommodation but nevertheless they will be accommodated yet again courtesy of the UK tax payers, so why should we be 'happy'.
Yes or No?
Even the bloody Hilton in Wales is being used to house this dross...
Luxury Snowdonia Hilton hotel being used to house asylum seekers
Local Tory MP Robin Millar has questioned the 'suitability' of using the chain's Garden Inn site at Adventure Parc Snowdonia
It's a fuckin joke, they aren't even being housed in so so hotels, the fuckin Hilton, it's a piss take and it's going to cost the Tories the next election, and the sad part is Labour will be even worse, it's a ticking time bomb, Liverpool/Wales and other places are going to erupt.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 23, 2023 13:28:13 GMT
It's inexplicable mystery, almost spooky, that something like this would happen in a democracy ..and than carry on happening decade after decade despite public opposition It's coming to ahead, people who supported asylum are now fed up with it, you can see the tide turning, I can see lots of these places are going to run them out of town, it will take more than the police, it will be a army job.
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Post by jonksy on Feb 23, 2023 13:31:27 GMT
It's inexplicable mystery, almost spooky, that something like this would happen in a democracy ..and than carry on happening decade after decade despite public opposition It's coming to ahead, people who supported asylum are now fed up with it, you can see the tide turning, I can see lots of these places are going to run them out of town, it will take more than the police, it will be a army job. It's gonna kick off big time shortly mate...people are fed up to the back teeth over the situation.
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Post by Steve on Feb 23, 2023 13:38:20 GMT
Yes, that's right, it means that they have the same entitlement to Universal credit as you or me. That does not mean that they get a Housing duty obligation. So you now agree, they can find somewhere to live, then ask the government to pay the rent, it might not be their desired accommodation but nevertheless they will be accommodated yet again courtesy of the UK tax payers, so why should we be 'happy' You don't know how either Universal Credit or the rental property market works then
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 23, 2023 13:42:57 GMT
So you now agree, they can find somewhere to live, then ask the government to pay the rent, it might not be their desired accommodation but nevertheless they will be accommodated yet again courtesy of the UK tax payers, so why should we be 'happy' You don't know how either Universal Credit or the rental property market works then Just like you don't know how the Asylum/refugee/migrant/accommodation system works then.
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Post by Steve on Feb 23, 2023 13:43:26 GMT
Even the bloody Hilton in Wales is being used to house this dross... Luxury Snowdonia Hilton hotel being used to house asylum seekers
Local Tory MP Robin Millar has questioned the 'suitability' of using the chain's Garden Inn site at Adventure Parc Snowdonia It's a fuckin joke, they aren't even being housed in so so hotels, the fuckin Hilton, it's a piss take and it's going to cost the Tories the next election, and the sad part is Labour will be even worse, it's a ticking time bomb, Liverpool/Wales and other places are going to erupt. You were proven wrong about your delusions about that hotel last November. Did you really think we'd forget and you could get away with repeating them? Think again ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/567/asylum?page=5
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 23, 2023 13:46:58 GMT
You don't know how either Universal Credit or the rental property market works then Just like you don't know how the Asylum/refugee/migrant/accommodation system works then. Ahem, didn't you just post stuff on Asylum Seekers when talking about refugees? 🤔
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 23, 2023 13:48:58 GMT
It's a fuckin joke, they aren't even being housed in so so hotels, the fuckin Hilton, it's a piss take and it's going to cost the Tories the next election, and the sad part is Labour will be even worse, it's a ticking time bomb, Liverpool/Wales and other places are going to erupt. You were proven wrong about your delusions about that hotel last November. Did you really think we'd forget and you could get away with repeating them? Think again ukpoliticsdebate.boards.net/thread/567/asylum?page=5Seriously you need to get a life, any one that logs a post from November is a sad bastard.
What is wrong about that post anyway?
The Hilton Snowdonia is a 4* Hotel, they should be in LDA (low demand accommodation) which is NOT the Hilton brand hotels. , so what is the pointless point you are trying to make?
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Post by Handyman on Feb 23, 2023 15:46:25 GMT
That's because I'm referring to housing duty, not housing demand. There will still be a duty on the State to house them - turfing them out from their hotel is going to make them homeless so they will turn to the local Council for assistance. And the Council will tell them sorry we have nowhere to house you, we maybe be able to put you up in a Hostel or B&B for a few days if there are any vacancies, which is very unlikely
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Post by Handyman on Feb 23, 2023 15:49:44 GMT
The best way to clear the backlog would be to deport Albanians back to Albania. That is happening the trouble finding the buggers , they have gone to ground with Albanians Gangs
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Post by sheepy on Feb 23, 2023 15:53:28 GMT
It is an amnesty which in actual fact says we have let it reach epic proportions and we will just make it everyone else's problem. Despite all the warnings they have received that people are not going to take it all lying down.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 23, 2023 16:01:08 GMT
The best way to clear the backlog would be to deport Albanians back to Albania. That is happening the trouble finding the buggers , they have gone to ground with Albanians Gangs We'll find them, because they'll be coming to a town near you, meaning all of us.
They are quickly establishing drug cartels throughout the country, and they are known for their barbaric drug turf wars, they are recruiting the boat people who will be making lots of money, it beggars belief that the government are walking right in to this with their eyes wide shut.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 23, 2023 17:43:21 GMT
There will still be a duty on the State to house them - turfing them out from their hotel is going to make them homeless so they will turn to the local Council for assistance. And the Council will tell them sorry we have nowhere to house you, we maybe be able to put you up in a Hostel or B&B for a few days if there are any vacancies, which is very unlikely It's not so simple now. The Homelessness Reduction Act gives the local council a duty to help you to find accommodation. While they are doing that they have to provide you with temporary housing for 56 days.
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 23, 2023 17:51:49 GMT
That is happening the trouble finding the buggers , they have gone to ground with Albanians Gangs We'll find them, because they'll be coming to a town near you, meaning all of us.
They are quickly establishing drug cartels throughout the country, and they are known for their barbaric drug turf wars, they are recruiting the boat people who will be making lots of money, it beggars belief that the government are walking right in to this with their eyes wide shut.
What - all of them? Sounds like you have just created a stereotype there mate and are trying to shoehorn them in to that.
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 23, 2023 17:58:50 GMT
We'll find them, because they'll be coming to a town near you, meaning all of us.
They are quickly establishing drug cartels throughout the country, and they are known for their barbaric drug turf wars, they are recruiting the boat people who will be making lots of money, it beggars belief that the government are walking right in to this with their eyes wide shut.
What - all of them? Sounds like you have just created a stereotype there mate and are trying to shoehorn them in to that. andrew you just carry on being blinkered, leave the thinking to the rest of us who have a bit more nous.
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