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Post by jonksy on Feb 23, 2023 5:29:26 GMT
Where will they be housed ? We leave vulnerable on the streets in thousands. It's unbelievable.............Such a mess we can say what we like but nothing will be done how did it come to this ........Well done for listening to what the public wants. NOT...
Fury over new Government plans to fast-track 12,000 immigration applications - including Channel migrants - with new questionnaire that is 'likely to see 95% of claims granted' A new scheme will attempt to streamline the process for asylum seekers Migrants will be granted refugee status on the basis of a 10-page questionnaire
Rishi Sunak faces renewed pressure on immigration after a new fast-track scheme for 12,000 asylum seekers - including Channel migrants - was dubbed an 'amnesty in all but name'.
In a bid to begin clearing the massive asylum backlog, the Home Office will launch a streamlined system which will see migrants granted refugee status on the basis of a 10-page questionnaire.
The plan was immediately attacked by critics as the Prime Minister faced demands from his own backbenches to urgently tackle the Channel crisis.
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 23, 2023 7:26:17 GMT
The key point is, i think, this only applies to those seeking asylum who have originated from countries from which we currently accept 95% of applications.
Of course, once word of which they are gets out it is likely every albanian will claim they are from one of those …
The other problem is the government has made much noise about the importance of a face to face interview which they are now abandoning, and of course every one if these documents will be completed by some snake oil lawyer.
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 23, 2023 7:52:33 GMT
Where will they be housed We leave vulnerable on the streets in thousands. It's unbelievable.............Such a mess we can say what we like but nothing will be done how did it come to this ........Well done for listening to what the public wants. NOT... A few comments: 1. The reason why you are complaining about the use of hotels is because the government can't process the claims quickly enough. If we can process them quicker, then once they are done the housing element disappears. Either they are granted asylum (or Humanitarian Protection) or it is denied and we can deport them. 2. I accept JOG's point that it is embarrassing for the government after putting the emphasis on the importance of face to face to abandon this for a group of certain nationalities, but as pointed out these nationalities have 95% acceptance, so the risk is relatively low. 3. People do not live on the streets because of asylum seekers. We do have big issues with rough sleepers, the reasons for this are multiple and complex. High housing costs, mental health, drug addiction, alcohol addiction, unemployable, relationship breakdown. Not "asylum seekers". 4. You should be happy with this. This is being put in place to reduce the time and therefore cost of putting these people in hotels, which is what you have been complaining about for months. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 23, 2023 7:56:59 GMT
3. People do not live on the streets because of asylum seekers. We do have big issues with rough sleepers, the reasons for this are multiple and complex. High housing costs, mental health, drug addiction, alcohol addiction, unemployable, relationship breakdown. Not "asylum seekers". We have high housing costs due to a shortage of housing - increasing demand either by asylum or immigration is only going to make that issue worse. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 23, 2023 8:01:38 GMT
Where will they be housed We leave vulnerable on the streets in thousands. It's unbelievable.............Such a mess we can say what we like but nothing will be done how did it come to this ........Well done for listening to what the public wants. NOT... A few comments: 1. The reason why you are complaining about the use of hotels is because the government can't process the claims quickly enough. If we can process them quicker, then once they are done the housing element disappears. Either they are granted asylum (or Humanitarian Protection) or it is denied and we can deport them. 2. I accept JOG's point that it is embarrassing for the government after putting the emphasis on the importance of face to face to abandon this for a group of certain nationalities, but as pointed out these nationalities have 95% acceptance, so the risk is relatively low. 3. People do not live on the streets because of asylum seekers. We do have big issues with rough sleepers, the reasons for this are multiple and complex. High housing costs, mental health, drug addiction, alcohol addiction, unemployable, relationship breakdown. Not "asylum seekers". 4. You should be happy with this. This is being put in place to reduce the time and therefore cost of putting these people in hotels, which is what you have been complaining about for months. I though we would all soon blessed with your contribution when I started the thread. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 23, 2023 8:14:27 GMT
The key point is, i think, this only applies to those seeking asylum who have originated from countries from which we currently accept 95% of applications. Of course, once word of which they are gets out it is likely every albanian will claim they are from one of those … The other problem is the government has made much noise about the importance of a face to face interview which they are now abandoning, and of course every one if these documents will be completed by some snake oil lawyer. I believe asylum seekers from Afghanistan, Eritrea, Libya, Syria, Sudan and Yemen will be fast tracked to the top of the housing list. And as you say, every illegal in northern France will be briefed by British charities and told to dispose of their passports and claim to be from one of the aforementioned countries. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 23, 2023 8:18:44 GMT
The key point is, i think, this only applies to those seeking asylum who have originated from countries from which we currently accept 95% of applications. Of course, once word of which they are gets out it is likely every albanian will claim they are from one of those … The other problem is the government has made much noise about the importance of a face to face interview which they are now abandoning, and of course every one if these documents will be completed by some snake oil lawyer. And as you say, every illegal in northern France will be briefed by British charities and told to dispose of their passports and claim to be from one of the aforementioned countries. That cant be true - Andrew has just assured us that: "The reason why you are complaining about the use of hotels is because the government can't process the claims quickly enough. If we can process them quicker, then once they are done the housing element disappears."Once they become legal there is no housing demand.. hmm...  |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 23, 2023 8:21:41 GMT
I believe asylum seekers from Afghanistan, Eritrea, Libya, Syria, Sudan and Yemen will be fast tracked to the top of the housing list. And as you say, every illegal in northern France will be briefed by British charities and told to dispose of their passports and claim to be from one of the aforementioned countries. That cant be true - Andrew has just assured us that: "The reason why you are complaining about the use of hotels is because the government can't process the claims quickly enough. If we can process them quicker, then once they are done the housing element disappears."Once they become legal there is no housing demand.. hmm... That's because I'm referring to housing duty, not housing demand. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 23, 2023 8:26:30 GMT
That cant be true - Andrew has just assured us that: "The reason why you are complaining about the use of hotels is because the government can't process the claims quickly enough. If we can process them quicker, then once they are done the housing element disappears."Once they become legal there is no housing demand.. hmm... That's because I'm referring to housing duty, not housing demand. There will still be a duty on the State to house them - turfing them out from their hotel is going to make them homeless so they will turn to the local Council for assistance. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 23, 2023 8:42:12 GMT
That's because I'm referring to housing duty, not housing demand. There will still be a duty on the State to house them - turfing them out from their hotel is going to make them homeless so they will turn to the local Council for assistance. So in fact once processed those draining Home Office funds drain Council Emergency Accommodation Funds instead. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 23, 2023 10:11:30 GMT
Where will they be housed We leave vulnerable on the streets in thousands. It's unbelievable.............Such a mess we can say what we like but nothing will be done how did it come to this ........Well done for listening to what the public wants. NOT... A few comments: 1. The reason why you are complaining about the use of hotels is because the government can't process the claims quickly enough. If we can process them quicker, then once they are done the housing element disappears. Either they are granted asylum (or Humanitarian Protection) or it is denied and we can deport them. 2. I accept JOG's point that it is embarrassing for the government after putting the emphasis on the importance of face to face to abandon this for a group of certain nationalities, but as pointed out these nationalities have 95% acceptance, so the risk is relatively low. 3. People do not live on the streets because of asylum seekers. We do have big issues with rough sleepers, the reasons for this are multiple and complex. High housing costs, mental health, drug addiction, alcohol addiction, unemployable, relationship breakdown. Not "asylum seekers". 4. You should be happy with this. This is being put in place to reduce the time and therefore cost of putting these people in hotels, which is what you have been complaining about for months. The deluded left, we should be 'happy' that tens of thousands of migrants will be legally allowed to stay, great, so instead of rinsing the tax payers by using hotels, we will instead be legally obliged to 'house' them, so how is that saving the tax payers money, it will cost even more.
We have a housing shortage crisis, so once these applications are rubber stamped they will be on the housing waiting list or put up in some other form of accommodation. No we are far from happy.
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Post by Steve on Feb 23, 2023 11:28:17 GMT
The key point is, i think, this only applies to those seeking asylum who have originated from countries from which we currently accept 95% of applications. Of course, once word of which they are gets out it is likely every albanian will claim they are from one of those … The other problem is the government has made much noise about the importance of a face to face interview which they are now abandoning, and of course every one if these documents will be completed by some snake oil lawyer. I believe asylum seekers from Afghanistan, Eritrea, Libya, Syria, Sudan and Yemen will be fast tracked to the top of the housing list. . . . Unlikely As soon as they are awarded asylum they are given 30 days notice to leave the 'seeker' accommodation and find their own way. One case I know of ended up dossing on sofa to sofa of UK charity members and last I heard had been found a bed at the YMCA. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 23, 2023 11:29:32 GMT
As for the questionnaire only needs one question: Were you recently in France? If they say yes = 'REJECTED, if they say 'no' then further investigations.
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Post by Vinny on Feb 23, 2023 11:33:49 GMT
The best way to clear the backlog would be to deport Albanians back to Albania.
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Post by Orac on Feb 23, 2023 11:35:07 GMT
I believe asylum seekers from Afghanistan, Eritrea, Libya, Syria, Sudan and Yemen will be fast tracked to the top of the housing list. If this were the case you would expect the find rows and rows of large family houses in ethnically diverse areas to be occupied by people who don't have basic English and the streets to be peppered with homeless locals who do. There is no point looking for this because it is absolutely not the case. |
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