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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 28, 2023 18:24:04 GMT
Here here, well said. Sadly, fragile snowflake types cant cope with nursery rhymes and wonderful fairy stories that generations before them grew up with. I don't mean to edit, Red, but it's hear, hear. I'm very sensitive to this sort of thing. Hear hear well spotted, git. I'm gonna get you at playtime. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 28, 2023 18:48:32 GMT
Ah, splendid. You can’t win the argument so you resort to ad hom attacks hoping an attack against me will reduce or neutralise tge impact of my analysis in the minds if others Classic. I take my point in an earlier thread back. Please keep digging because this is fucking hilarious. The BNP are racists and bullies. It stands to reason that you would be opposed to measures to curb racism or bullying. That's called logic, Johnny. And logic is not only a valid tool when presenting an argument, it is considered the optimal tool. What information do you base that racist and bullies description on. It seems to be rather a wide ranging attack on a group of people loosely aligned around common membership of a legal political party? I would not describe the Labour party as far left wing anti-Semitic nutters even though it contains elements of both of those |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 28, 2023 18:51:17 GMT
The publishers rightly faced a public backlash for editing Dahl's work to Orwellian levels, after taking advice from some weird group about what words that were deemed offensive to people. Their position has changed as they will not only sell Dahl's edited work, but his original classics too. The consumers will decide what is best reflected for them when they purchase the books. Not people like you. I've no interest. I don't even care whether they make the changes, Johnny. I was simply pointing out the very obvious fact that there was nothing sinister about what they proposed to do. Stick to the Daily Mail in future. Orwell is way above your abilities. There may be something sinister if they are bowing to public pressure from those who deem what is acceptable or unacceptable in modern society without any particular reference to that actual society. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 28, 2023 19:13:09 GMT
The BNP are racists and bullies. It stands to reason that you would be opposed to measures to curb racism or bullying. That's called logic, Johnny. And logic is not only a valid tool when presenting an argument, it is considered the optimal tool. What information do you base that racist and bullies description on. It seems to be rather a wide ranging attack on a group of people loosely aligned around common membership of a legal political party? I would not describe the Labour party as far left wing anti-Semitic nutters even though it contains elements of both of those Defending the BNP now? This is a new low. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 28, 2023 19:17:31 GMT
I don't mean to edit, Red, but it's hear, hear. I'm very sensitive to this sort of thing. Hear hear well spotted, git. I'm gonna get you at playtime. I wasn't being pedantic, Red. I just want you to be the best version of you. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 28, 2023 19:23:49 GMT
Again, more ad hom attacks because you cannot deal with the fact your stance that a censored book is the same as an uncensored one is twaddle. Like i said, stop fucking digging Or get tinculin to no-platform me. Isn’t that your logical next step since you can’t face being shown the error in your logic ! My stance is that there is nothing sinister about the motives behind the publisher's proposal, and that any comparison to Orwell is simply silly. I've never tried to no-platform anyone. I find you amusing. I'd miss you if you left, Johnny. Where else would I find a BNP member imputing sinister motives to other people, with absolutely no sense of irony? |
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 28, 2023 22:28:40 GMT
That's all I need to do, Johnny. It's a false comparison, that's all there is to it. And I repeat: you have a ghoulish obsession with executing people and you campaigned on behalf of an overtly racist political party. You are no advertisement for the benefits of 'traditional' children's stories. Ah, splendid. You can’t win the argument so you resort to ad hom attacks hoping an attack against me will reduce or neutralise tge impact of my analysis in the minds if others Classic. I take my point in an earlier thread back. Please keep digging because this is fucking hilarious. It was pretty obvious he lost the argument when he started making his posts about you instead. Well played sir. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 28, 2023 22:35:19 GMT
Ah, splendid. You can’t win the argument so you resort to ad hom attacks hoping an attack against me will reduce or neutralise tge impact of my analysis in the minds if others Classic. I take my point in an earlier thread back. Please keep digging because this is fucking hilarious. It was pretty obvious he lost the argument when he started making his posts about you instead. Well played sir. Three cheers for the BNP!!!  Johnny brought up Golliwogs. It's entirely relevant to mention that he's a BNP member. His attitudes to race have a bearing on the discussion. |
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 28, 2023 22:44:42 GMT
It was pretty obvious he lost the argument when he started making his posts about you instead. Well played sir. Three cheers for the BNP!!! Johnny brought up Golliwogs. It's entirely relevant to mention that he's a BNP member. His attitudes to race have a bearing on the discussion. No they don't. This thread is about the Orwellian censoring of Dahl's work, not another one of your character assassinations of a poster because he owned you on this discussion. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 28, 2023 23:01:05 GMT
Three cheers for the BNP!!! Johnny brought up Golliwogs. It's entirely relevant to mention that he's a BNP member. His attitudes to race have a bearing on the discussion. No they don't. This thread is about the Orwellian censoring of Dahl's work, not another one of your character assassinations of a poster because he owned you on this discussion. Johnny has never 'owned' anyone in a discussion ... ever! Now, explain the correspondences between I984 and what was proposed by Puffin. In 1984, the state was the oppressor. Puffin is a publishing company, not the state. In 1984, the state told and perpetuated a lie. Puffin does not maintain that Dahl wrote the words they intended to introduce. Not only this, they openly published their intention to introduce words he didn't originally use. In 1984, it was illegal to openly acknowledge the truth of Airstrip One's history. It is not illegal to acknowledge that Dahl's original was different in minor ways. In 1984, the lies were perpetuated for the sinister and ominous motive of legitimising a dictatorship. Puffin are a publishing company, not a dictatorship. Their motives were to protect the well-being of children (whether misguided or not). That could hardly be more different. There is nothing funnier than the ill-informed and poorly read political right using (misusing) literature for their own ends. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Mar 1, 2023 0:06:57 GMT
It was pretty obvious he lost the argument when he started making his posts about you instead. Well played sir. Three cheers for the BNP!!! Johnny brought up Golliwogs. It's entirely relevant to mention that he's a BNP member. His attitudes to race have a bearing on the discussion. You need to take another look at that stolen membership list. I’m not a member |
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Post by Einhorn on Mar 1, 2023 0:28:07 GMT
Three cheers for the BNP!!! Johnny brought up Golliwogs. It's entirely relevant to mention that he's a BNP member. His attitudes to race have a bearing on the discus You need to take another look at that stolen membership list. I’m not a member. But you were. You stood as a BNP candidate in a general election. You told this forum that. Let's just leave it there. |
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Post by Red Rackham on Mar 1, 2023 1:29:57 GMT
You need to take another look at that stolen membership list. I’m not a member. But you were. You stood as a BNP candidate in a general election. You told this forum that. Let's just leave it there. Big deal, you lefties you €urophiles think Scottish Nationalism and Welsh Nationalism are great, but anyone who dares to even mention English Nationalism is immediately called a far right extremist. You're a joke. The British National Party were far more patriotic than the aforementioned nationalist parties, but people like you dare not criticise them in case some weak spineless lefty points at you and shouts; are you a racist. Which is how the left have successfully killed any debate. But it wont last. History suggests people will be pushed, so far.  |
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Post by Einhorn on Mar 1, 2023 1:44:14 GMT
But you were. You stood as a BNP candidate in a general election. You told this forum that. Let's just leave it there. Big deal, you lefties you €urophiles think Scottish Nationalism and Welsh Nationalism are great, but anyone who dares to even mention English Nationalism is immediately called a far right extremist. You're a joke. The British National Party were far more patriotic than the aforementioned nationalist parties, but people like you dare not criticise them in case some weak spineless lefty points at you and shouts; are you a racist. Which is how the left have successfully killed any debate. But it wont last. History suggests people will be pushed, so far. We're always open to a little constructive criticism, Red. |
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Post by Bentley on Mar 1, 2023 9:57:46 GMT
You always know when Darling starts to lose an argument when he gets personal. You know that he knows he’s lost it when he gets bitchy.😉
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