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Post by The Squeezed Middle on Feb 18, 2023 11:53:34 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if we never had another majority Labour government again. Labour are woke, Starmer couldn't say what a woman was ffs. The vast majority of people in this country do not like woke, and that will be Labours downfall. I tend to agree. I think that predictions of a Labour landlside are unrealistic and a small majority or hung parliament is far more likely. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 18, 2023 12:24:26 GMT
Nah the polls had Labour well in front until Major found a beer crate to stand on. Similar thing happened in the referendum when I backed Leave at 13/2 and was disappointed, a few hours before it had been 7/1. In June of the same years the Remnants were founded. lol Don't discount the power of Tory propaganda and the help it got from the media.
Looking back at Thatcher's period in office she did far more harm than good, yet the electorate continued to vote for her. I've never disagreed with that and if it wasn't the risk of betraying a trust I could tell you a story that might have involved me in her demise. |
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Post by sword on Feb 18, 2023 14:07:23 GMT
Communism is where the state owns all of industry, all of production, and where nationalisation of everything is the norm. We now know this is nonsense, and we know that it does not work, and its why Tony Blair quite rightly changed Clause VI of the Labour Party which committed the party to wholesale nationalisation. Blair said that where it is in the best interests of the country for institutions or services to be public owned, let it be so. But where it is in the national interest for services or institutions to be privately owned, let it be so. This is called "The Third Way" free of political ideology MOST British people want our NHS and Railways to be state owned and state run ... but most British people believe that industry should be privately owned. That is what every labour Government i have know wanted,including Corbyn,they didn't want to take over every factory in Britain. |
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Post by sword on Feb 18, 2023 14:12:35 GMT
Maybe one day you will discover just how good and just how needed Blair was. 1 Million Iraqis might disagree... 1 million dead Iraqis,plus half a million dead Iraqi Children before that.Blair is a war criminal its that simple,that doesn't let the other MPs off the hook most of who supported that genocidal war. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 18, 2023 14:17:20 GMT
1 Million Iraqis might disagree... 1 million dead Iraqis,plus half a million dead Iraqi Children before that.Blair is a war criminal its that simple,that doesn't let the other MPs off the hook most of who supported that genocidal war. Stop posting lies and insinuating lies, your continuous deceptions indicate that you have a serious problem that requires professional help. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 18, 2023 14:19:56 GMT
Maybe one day you will discover just how good and just how needed Blair was. 1 Million Iraqis might disagree... Only if they believe in lies as you obviously do. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 15:08:27 GMT
1 Million Iraqis might disagree... Only if they believe in lies as you obviously do. Sure, the Iraqi people came to a consensus and actually sent out an invitation to be bombed. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 18, 2023 16:56:39 GMT
1 Million Iraqis might disagree... Only if they believe in lies as you obviously do. I think the problem was that most British people believe that Blair, and his little band of helpers, provided Parliament and people with quite a degree of misinformation to ensure British participation in the event. Blair saying he would do the same even though no WMDs were found does not help. The UK military and military personnel are for the protection of Britain and the British people and that is what was believed to be the case, though at best spin, at worst outright lies. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 18, 2023 17:04:32 GMT
Anyone else notice those who are instrumental in wars are always wealthy, I mean when Blair came to power he didn't have a pot to piss in, now he's worth at least £60 million on paper, and you can at least double that for what we don't know, wars make people wealthy, Blair is testimony to that.
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Post by sword on Feb 18, 2023 18:47:38 GMT
1 million dead Iraqis,plus half a million dead Iraqi Children before that.Blair is a war criminal its that simple,that doesn't let the other MPs off the hook most of who supported that genocidal war. Stop posting lies and insinuating lies, your continuous deceptions indicate that you have a serious problem that requires professional help. What lie? that toxic Bitch Albright said half a million dead Iraqi kids was a price worth paying. |
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Post by sword on Feb 18, 2023 18:53:46 GMT
Anyone else notice those who are instrumental in wars are always wealthy, I mean when Blair came to power he didn't have a pot to piss in, now he's worth at least £60 million on paper, and you can at least double that for what we don't know, wars make people wealthy, Blair is testimony to that. Well its happening again in Ukraine and you support it,all those nice Nato weapons are not being given away for nothing,the poor dumb American tax payers are paying and the arms companies are getting fat,General Smedley Buttler former Marine said many years ago War is a racket,he said he was a enforcer for wall street and US companies all over the World,he said Al Capone operated in six districts of New York,Buttler said he operated on three Continents,some people still don't get it. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 18, 2023 19:11:17 GMT
Anyone else notice those who are instrumental in wars are always wealthy, I mean when Blair came to power he didn't have a pot to piss in, now he's worth at least £60 million on paper, and you can at least double that for what we don't know, wars make people wealthy, Blair is testimony to that. Well its happening again in Ukraine and you support it,all those nice Nato weapons are not being given away for nothing,the poor dumb American tax payers are paying and the arms companies are getting fat,General Smedley Buttler former Marine said many years ago War is a racket,he said he was a enforcer for wall street and US companies all over the World,he said Al Capone operated in six districts of New York,Buttler said he operated on three Continents,some people still don't get it. Do I?
Not being able to do anything about it doesn't mean 'you support it', you need to choose your words more carefully.
Have a look at who has interest in Lockheed Martin Corporation, then get back to me, and we will discuss this further.
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Post by vlk on Feb 18, 2023 21:57:46 GMT
The 1992 election was a perfect example how to blow an election victory. Namely, after 13 years of Tory-government, just like now, there was feeling in the air that enough of that government. Labour was heading towards a victory and the polls looked good for them. Then they had the Sheffield-rally which was broadcast on TV. All the old communists were punching their fists in the air and chanting: "we will win, we will win". At that moment many people thought: No you won't. Up until the election day it was unclear who would win and the Tories winning with a narrow majority was a huge surprise. Well, the government was tired, weak and exhausted from the start. However, perhaps that silly Sheffield-rally changed the course of history. Perhaps there wouldn't have been Blair if only... It wouldn't surprise me if we never had another majority Labour government again. Labour are woke, Starmer couldn't say what a woman was ffs. The vast majority of people in this country do not like woke, and that will be Labours downfall. If you never leave your home and only watch the mainstream media you could be fooled into thinking that the woke-stuff has overtaken the country. However, if you live in the real world how often do you come across with people who take the woke-stuff seriously? Every now and then for sure but far from being mainstream. Most normal people are sick and tired of being spoofed it at them. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 18, 2023 22:04:26 GMT
It wouldn't surprise me if we never had another majority Labour government again. Labour are woke, Starmer couldn't say what a woman was ffs. The vast majority of people in this country do not like woke, and that will be Labours downfall. If you never leave your home and only watch the mainstream media you could be fooled into thinking that the woke-stuff has overtaken the country. However, if you live in the real world how often do you come across with people who take the woke-stuff seriously? Every now and then for sure but far from being mainstream. Most normal people are sick and tired o,f being spoofed it at them. But normal people are being silenced by a plethora of means and yes, it is OK to discuss the trials and tribulations of woke amongst yourselves but try it on a public platform and there will be many attempts to silence you. Being sick and tired, as we all are, just means that 'the woke' do not care about us as the generally benign majority. You will conform in public. It is Sovietisation where 2+2 will equal five if the state says so. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 18, 2023 23:35:36 GMT
Only if they believe in lies as you obviously do. Sure, the Iraqi people came to a consensus and actually sent out an invitation to be bombed. I await your next stupid contribution. |
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