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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2023 10:15:38 GMT
But they do have a legal right to. A legal right to escape to safety? However, they are already safe and so are unable to 'escape to safety' It's a bit like saying they have a legal right to leave their house when they are already outside. ...humm So why do you not lambast the government over Ukrainian refugees, after all they all pass through safe countries to get here? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2023 10:16:44 GMT
Labour have continuously challenged the Tories attitude to allowing the boat crossing. The best way to deal with immigration is at the source. The source was Tony Blair. Immigration only started with Blair? 🤣 But you know what I meant. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 19, 2023 11:49:43 GMT
A legal right to escape to safety? However, they are already safe and so are unable to 'escape to safety' It's a bit like saying they have a legal right to leave their house when they are already outside. ...humm So why do you not lambast the government over Ukrainian refugees, after all they all pass through safe countries to get here? They arrive after they have received a residence visa - if everyone else were to follow the Ukrainians in waiting for permission before they arrive in the country that would solve a lot of the problems. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2023 12:40:40 GMT
So why do you not lambast the government over Ukrainian refugees, after all they all pass through safe countries to get here? They arrive after they have received a residence visa - if everyone else were to follow the Ukrainians in waiting for permission before they arrive in the country that would solve a lot of the problems. Why were the given residence visas while they were in a safe country, there seems to be double standards her. You do know there are no legal routes from 'selected' war hotspot countries, don't you? |
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Post by Orac on Feb 19, 2023 13:05:32 GMT
Pacifico made the point well.
The vast majority of the 'refugees' you personally favour have no case at all and so avoid proper evaluation, breech national borders illegally and dispose of any means of identification. They do it because they are being dishonest and attempting to force their way in. There is realistically no means of dealing with that
In terms of public sympathy, avoiding all the above helps but there there is also a public perception that Ukrainian refugees are overwhelmingly actually genuinely seeking temporary refuge from a danger and will be happily to go back to their home country when that danger is passed. Perhaps there is a cost for long-term chronic dishonesty and the total chaos it creates?
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Post by sandypine on Feb 19, 2023 16:46:01 GMT
The source was Tony Blair. Immigration only started with Blair? 🤣 But you know what I meant. Before Blair immigration was largely accepted by most people at the levels existing then, that does not mean it was popular it was just low enough level to be not a problem to most. Blair changed all that, the numbers skyrocketed after NewLabour came into power. They promised to change Britain forever and indeed they did just not in the good way most people were led to believe. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 19, 2023 18:20:54 GMT
They arrive after they have received a residence visa - if everyone else were to follow the Ukrainians in waiting for permission before they arrive in the country that would solve a lot of the problems. Why were the given residence visas while they were in a safe country, there seems to be double standards her. You do know there are no legal routes from 'selected' war hotspot countries, don't you? There are legal routes from Afghanistan. Why do we need legal routes from Albania? |
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