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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 9:19:13 GMT
Hoards of Asian men outside British schools but no police to 'man' the gates. Energy companies making massive profits for foreign companies whilst British pensioners cannot afford heat their homes. Millions of boats crossing the Channel each day laden with rapists, murderers and thieves but no UK border boats to stop them. Militant Trotsky workers going on strike so they don't have to use foodbanks. Russia and Covid causing all the problems in the UK to cover the fact of underinvestment by Tory thieves. Shamima Begum not allowed in the country because our police will not be able to stop her carrying out mass murders. Brexit causing £bs of losses to the economy but we have our independence. NHS on the point of collapse while the Tories dally. Of course there's a culture war and the Tories are at the heart of it. It's typical "look this way while we steal from the till". Seek help! Tory reply.🤣 |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 16, 2023 10:20:45 GMT
Boys and men harass women and girls in all cultures and societies, so what's new? There's harassment and then there's grooming, rape, exploitation, pimping, drug dealing etc. Think about it. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 16, 2023 10:23:13 GMT
He doesn't care. He knows perfectly well he is conducting a proxy assault on you and your society.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 10:36:36 GMT
Boys and men harass women and girls in all cultures and societies, so what's new? There's harassment and then there's grooming, rape, exploitation, pimping, drug dealing etc. Think about it. If there are hoards of Asian men waiting outside school gates waiting for girls to come out, as stated by one poster on this board and alluded to by the right wing media, why are the police not there to stop them. There are 'criminals' coming across and pretending to seek asylum, we all know that, but not in the numbers being reported. It is the governments responsibility to deal with asylum seekers and they are failing in that duty. It is a deflection for the real reasons that this country is in such a mess, as is any mention of Covid and the war in Ukraine. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 10:37:55 GMT
He doesn't care. He knows perfectly well he is conducting a proxy assault on you and your society. I am not conducting an assault on our society it is Tory mismanagement. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 16, 2023 15:14:39 GMT
You cannot have a cultural war unless there are different cultures living side by side in the same space so to speak but frequently incompatible. I have no recollection of Multiculturalism ever being proposed as a policy by any government let alone NewLabour who were the ones who started speaking about it as though it had come to pass during their tenure. Large scale immigration does not make Multiculturalism it just makes a bleeding mess of what was existent beforehand. Judging by how it has happened it must be deliberate as opposed to incompetent. Its always race innit? Trans British girl killed by British teens, same culture. I did not mention race. Why did you? All cultures have their own problems within their cultures, trying to interface two different cultures ina friendly or even benign manner seems to usually be a lost cause. History teaches us that lesson repeatedly. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 16, 2023 15:19:07 GMT
He doesn't care. He knows perfectly well he is conducting a proxy assault on you and your society. I am not conducting an assault on our society it is Tory mismanagement. Agreed, but the same mismanagement would occur at least to the same level, and possibly worse, with the current alternatives. Labour might process claims quicker by throwing money at the process but we will still have the boats crossing and accelerating year on year. It will be an army by the end of this year. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 16:58:29 GMT
Its always race innit? Trans British girl killed by British teens, same culture. I did not mention race. Why did you? All cultures have their own problems within their cultures, trying to interface two different cultures ina friendly or even benign manner seems to usually be a lost cause. History teaches us that lesson repeatedly. Of course you did 'large scale immigration', Brits are not the immigrants. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 17:04:47 GMT
I am not conducting an assault on our society it is Tory mismanagement. Agreed, but the same mismanagement would occur at least to the same level, and possibly worse, with the current alternatives. Labour might process claims quicker by throwing money at the process but we will still have the boats crossing and accelerating year on year. It will be an army by the end of this year. You do not know what will happen under a Labour government but we do know what has happened under the Tories. They have closed legal routes into the UK. Instead of dealing with asylum seekers they are putting them in hotels. They have shrunk our border force. No checks at the borders are a smugglers paradise, different topic but linked. They have created a 'hostile' environment for asylum seekers. They use words like 'invasion' and 'criminals' to whip up fear and hatred. The Tories know exactly what they are doing but too many 'English' are too blind to see it. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 16, 2023 17:11:05 GMT
They have closed legal routes into the UK. I'm not sure what you mean by this, but you do realise that the purpose of asylum is to get people to safety, not to get them specifically into the UK? Clearly, if people are in safe countries, they don't need to get to safety because they are already safe. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 16, 2023 17:28:54 GMT
Agreed, but the same mismanagement would occur at least to the same level, and possibly worse, with the current alternatives. Labour might process claims quicker by throwing money at the process but we will still have the boats crossing and accelerating year on year. It will be an army by the end of this year. You do not know what will happen under a Labour government but we do know what has happened under the Tories. They have closed legal routes into the UK. Instead of dealing with asylum seekers they are putting them in hotels. They have shrunk our border force. No checks at the borders are a smugglers paradise, different topic but linked. They have created a 'hostile' environment for asylum seekers. They use words like 'invasion' and 'criminals' to whip up fear and hatred. The Tories know exactly what they are doing but too many 'English' are too blind to see it. So that is clear. They will reopen legal routes, they will increase processing times, they will increase our border force (to do what as regards illegal immigration?), Labour will present a friendly environment for asylum seekers ( that should reduce numbers dramatically), Labour say it is not an invasion and there are no large groups of criminals. It sounds like Labour will facilitate even greater numbers of both legal and illegal immigration which is broadly what I said. The public want people to deal with it by stopping it, or greatly reducing it. Labour are out of touch. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 16, 2023 18:28:46 GMT
There's harassment and then there's grooming, rape, exploitation, pimping, drug dealing etc. Think about it. If there are hoards of Asian men waiting outside school gates waiting for girls to come out, as stated by one poster on this board and alluded to by the right wing media, why are the police not there to stop them.
Well I would assume for the same reasons that the Police and local Council ignored the grooming scandal in Rochdale for many years. |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 16, 2023 18:59:32 GMT
I did not mention race. Why did you? All cultures have their own problems within their cultures, trying to interface two different cultures ina friendly or even benign manner seems to usually be a lost cause. History teaches us that lesson repeatedly. Of course you did 'large scale immigration', Brits are not the immigrants. How do you define race? Are Poles a different race, are the French and Germans different races. The point as ever is culture, the fact that most incompatible cultures come with those of different races is just a fact. Kenny Lynch was a different ethnicity but culturally did not appear any different, same for Shirley Bassey, same for Derek Griffiths and a host of others, these were not immigrants either. It is the cultural separation that is the problem. Those that integrated into the resident culture(s) rarely had a problem except for a few idiots common to all cultures. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 20:08:58 GMT
Agreed, but the same mismanagement would occur at least to the same level, and possibly worse, with the current alternatives. Labour might process claims quicker by throwing money at the process but we will still have the boats crossing and accelerating year on year. It will be an army by the end of this year. You do not know what will happen under a Labour government but we do know what has happened under the Tories. They have closed legal routes into the UK. Instead of dealing with asylum seekers they are putting them in hotels. They have shrunk our border force. No checks at the borders are a smugglers paradise, different topic but linked. They have created a 'hostile' environment for asylum seekers. They use words like 'invasion' and 'criminals' to whip up fear and hatred. The Tories know exactly what they are doing but too many 'English' are too blind to see it. Actually, Labour whip up fear and hatred by painting the good people of Britain as racists and Nazis. That's bound to scare foreign families and cause division, whilst the Left offer their protection from bogeymen in exchange for political support. |
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Post by steppenwolf on Feb 17, 2023 8:30:26 GMT
You cannot have a cultural war unless there are different cultures living side by side in the same space so to speak but frequently incompatible. I have no recollection of Multiculturalism ever being proposed as a policy by any government let alone NewLabour who were the ones who started speaking about it as though it had come to pass during their tenure. Large scale immigration does not make Multiculturalism it just makes a bleeding mess of what was existent beforehand. Judging by how it has happened it must be deliberate as opposed to incompetent. Its always race innit? No - except to stupid people who like shouting racist and bigot at anyone who opposes uncontrolled immigration. It's actually not about race - it's about culture. And in this case it's about muslims who have a very different culture from our western culture. It doesn't apply to, say, Indian Hindus - who are the same race as the Pakistani muslims - but behave in a very different way. They're not involved in terrorism and they don't rape and abuse young white girls. There is a reason why muslims are unwelcome in so many countries - it's because they cause trouble wherever they go, and the more you have of them the more trouble you get. There is a reason why the only "religion" that has a word for people who despise it is Islam - Islamophobia. Most cultures who come here fit in. The problem with muslims is that, while some actually do fit in (usually young females, who like the freedom and the fact that they're treated equally to men) many more actually react against the Western culture and become "radicalised". It's notable that some of the most extreme terrorists are those who have been educated in the West - and have come to hate it. The lazy assumption of the sociologists was that, while the first generation muslims might be troublesome, subsequent generations would adopt our culture and fit in. Wrong. In fact the opposite has happened. The second and third generation muslims are far more "conservative" and hard-line than their parents. Basically the problem is getting worse. |
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