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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 17:50:08 GMT
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Post by sandypine on Feb 13, 2023 18:28:46 GMT
I'm going to be negative on this. It has been happening all over the country for years and usually without planning permission of any sort. This is fine for the two people in question but often it will be two or three adults and often families. We spent about 60 years trying to get rid of the slums and here we are paving the way for the cramped, insanitary conditions of the future. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 19:16:59 GMT
I'm going to be negative on this. It has been happening all over the country for years and usually without planning permission of any sort. This is fine for the two people in question but often it will be two or three adults and often families. We spent about 60 years trying to get rid of the slums and here we are paving the way for the cramped, insanitary conditions of the future. I think you're being unfair. The building they showed was anything but a slum. And while we got rid of slums with no bathrooms and an outside karzi we replaced them with over priced slum rented property miles from friends and family, that costs the council (Us) fortunes. To me a council and a charity who have found a solution so good that doesn't cost some unimaginable amount is to be cheered through the land. Well done Bristol. Hear hear. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 13, 2023 19:32:31 GMT
Many of these blots on our landscape where the members point their arses towards the sky 3 or 4 times a day were built whithout planning permission.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 19:47:10 GMT
Many of these blots on our landscape where the members point their arses towards the sky 3 or 4 times a day were built whithout planning permission. Oh Jonsky. Sometimes you can be so intelligent and sometimes so not. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 13, 2023 19:54:51 GMT
Many of these blots on our landscape where the members point their arses towards the sky 3 or 4 times a day were built whithout planning permission. Oh Jonsky. Sometimes you can be so intelligent and sometimes so not. What exactly is not intelegent about pointing out the truth? |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 20:00:54 GMT
Oh Jonsky. Sometimes you can be so intelligent and sometimes so not. What exactly is not intelegent about pointing out the truth? I was referring to the phraseology. Deliberately and needlessly inflammatory and thus destroying the point you might have been trying to make. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 13, 2023 20:03:52 GMT
What exactly is not intelegent about pointing out the truth? I was referring to the phraseology. Deliberately and needlessly inflammatory and thus destroying the point you might have been trying to make. The phraseology was perfect....As far as I am concerned...
EDIT: BTW some would see it as a meagre attempt at humour on my part...You know LOL and all that.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 20:44:59 GMT
I was referring to the phraseology. Deliberately and needlessly inflammatory and thus destroying the point you might have been trying to make. The phraseology was perfect....As far as I am concerned...
EDIT: BTW some would see it as a meagre attempt at humour on my part...You know LOL and all that.
Actually. Yes it probably was meant as humour. Given. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 14, 2023 11:05:55 GMT
I recall in the seventies / early eighties, a parody of an official letter circulating, informing the homeowner that their house was to be requisitioned to support the government's immigration policy and that a tent would be provided for the current residents
It was well written and caused much hilarity
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Post by Toreador on Feb 14, 2023 11:29:55 GMT
I recall in the seventies / early eighties, a parody of an official letter circulating, informing the homeowner that their house was to be requisitioned to support the government's immigration policy and that a tent would be provided for the current residents It was well written caused much hilarity Around 2002 I watched a local council meeting when the topic came up about a John Prescott letter to every local authority asked them to set aside council houses to home asylum seekers and, as far as possible, to look at larger properties that would house extended family when they arrived. It was clear the council was on the verge of rejecting it when the Chief Executive, an odious prat, intervened to say that the letter was a request but if councils rejected the idea, the Labour govermewnt would legislate to make it compulsory; the request was granted. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 14, 2023 11:45:01 GMT
Which is a pity. They should have dared the labour party to publicly endorse and back policies which appear to be basically genocidal.
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Post by sandypine on Feb 14, 2023 16:29:34 GMT
I'm going to be negative on this. It has been happening all over the country for years and usually without planning permission of any sort. This is fine for the two people in question but often it will be two or three adults and often families. We spent about 60 years trying to get rid of the slums and here we are paving the way for the cramped, insanitary conditions of the future. I think you're being unfair. The building they showed was anything but a slum. And while we got rid of slums with no bathrooms and an outside karzi we replaced them with over priced slum rented property miles from friends and family, that costs the council (Us) fortunes. To me a council and a charity who have found a solution so good that doesn't cost some unimaginable amount is to be cheered through the land. Well done Bristol. Hear hear. The tenements in Glasgow were initially the dwellings of well to do artisans and as they were subdivided and sublet, specifically against the law in many areas, they gradually became what had been cleared to build them. We are on the same path as a house for one will soon become a house for three or four and then subdivided so that the bathroom, a luxury for one, will become shared amongst seven or eight. Population increases and the lack of housing will almost certainly guarantee this outcome. Perhaps if we controlled our population increase it may not happen, so realistically it is a dead cert to happen. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 14, 2023 19:04:02 GMT
I think you're being unfair. The building they showed was anything but a slum. And while we got rid of slums with no bathrooms and an outside karzi we replaced them with over priced slum rented property miles from friends and family, that costs the council (Us) fortunes. To me a council and a charity who have found a solution so good that doesn't cost some unimaginable amount is to be cheered through the land. Well done Bristol. Hear hear. The tenements in Glasgow were initially the dwellings of well to do artisans and as they were subdivided and sublet, specifically against the law in many areas, they gradually became what had been cleared to build them. We are on the same path as a house for one will soon become a house for three or four and then subdivided so that the bathroom, a luxury for one, will become shared amongst seven or eight. Population increases and the lack of housing will almost certainly guarantee this outcome. Perhaps if we controlled our population increase it may not happen, so realistically it is a dead cert to happen. That's interesting Sandy, I didn't know that. I think its to early to say we are copying that event. Do you have any suggestions as to how we help those who are currently sofa surfing or having to share rented accommodation? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 14, 2023 19:08:55 GMT
Reminds me of me. My cave is down the garden. Mrs R does get a bit miffed if I spend too much time down here which is why I don't kick the arse out of it, usually lol. On a serious note, a few years ago the police were searching for someone, a criminal, in a Birmingham suburb. It was the early hours of the morning and the streets were empty. The police helicopter was sent up and started searching the area using infra red. The helicopter almost immediately reported dozens of heat sources in lots of garden sheds. It transpired that immigrants were living in garden sheds, dozens and dozens of them, and this was a few years ago. |
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