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Post by Bentley on Feb 22, 2023 10:14:43 GMT
No she was referring to Tory MPs. In the world between you ears maybe a Tory MP could instantly become scum when promoted and stop being scum when sent back to the back benches but in the real world that would be as ridiculous as your posts . If you have unequivocal proof that she meant this then post it . If not don’t waste my time . So one minute it is the government i.e. a limited number of people, the next it is to Tory MPs. That is how confused the mess between your ears is. Now we have an answer to another example of your limited thinking. The individual members of the government referred to, remain "scum" in terms of the comment aimed at them, for ever, no matter where they are, even after they leave parliament. You can only miss the obvious because of your apparent need to be right, even when you are wrong. What are you on about ‘ one minute’? You are claiming that any Tory MP who becomes a minister is automatically defined as scum and is for life whereas a Tory MP who stats on the backbench is not. Why are you posting such ridiculous shit? |
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Post by Steve on Feb 22, 2023 10:23:04 GMT
We are going to have to disagree on that 'The government' is those that govern the country IE the PM, secretaries and ministers of state and the civil servants they control. The other MPs of the same party have no governmental power. Rayner's comments show it was that inner group she was having a go at Bullshit Steve . That would mean that a backbencher becomes scum the moment that they ministers and stopped being scum when they returned to the back benches . You are making excuses to save face . You are deliberately ignoring the reality of what she said . No they became scum in her eyes when they stayed in Boris's government after his appalling actions and stayed such scum even if they later left office but did not repent. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 22, 2023 10:25:55 GMT
So one minute it is the government i.e. a limited number of people, the next it is to Tory MPs. That is how confused the mess between your ears is. Now we have an answer to another example of your limited thinking. The individual members of the government referred to, remain "scum" in terms of the comment aimed at them, for ever, no matter where they are, even after they leave parliament. You can only miss the obvious because of your apparent need to be right, even when you are wrong. What are you on about ‘ one minute’ You are claiming that any Tory MP who becomes a minister is automatically defined as scum and is for life whereas a Tory MP who stats on the backbench is not. Why are you posting such ridiculous shit? Come on man, your post is claiming a lie. I have NEVER claimed or insinuated your line __" You are claiming that any Tory MP who becomes a minister is automatically defined as scum and is for life whereas a Tory MP who stats on the backbench is not."__ I have made my position abundantly clear that the reference I'm referring to is the limited number of people who formed the government when the comment was made. So stop resorting to lies, and stop wasting my time. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 22, 2023 10:27:28 GMT
Bullshit Steve . That would mean that a backbencher becomes scum the moment that they ministers and stopped being scum when they returned to the back benches . You are making excuses to save face . You are deliberately ignoring the reality of what she said . No they became scum in her eyes when they stayed in Boris's government after his appalling actions and stayed such scum even if they later left office but did not repent. Now you are mind reading. If you insist she means government then we must include back bench MPs to avoid the ridiculous situation that I describe . If she means government then she must be insulting the voters who elected them. That's logical . Pretending to read her mind smacks of desperation. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 22, 2023 10:31:17 GMT
What are you on about ‘ one minute’ You are claiming that any Tory MP who becomes a minister is automatically defined as scum and is for life whereas a Tory MP who stats on the backbench is not. Why are you posting such ridiculous shit? Come on man, your post is claiming a lie. I have NEVER claimed or insinuated your line __" You are claiming that any Tory MP who becomes a minister is automatically defined as scum and is for life whereas a Tory MP who stats on the backbench is not."__ I have made my position abundantly clear that the reference I'm referring to is the limited number of people who formed the government when the comment was made. So stop resorting to lies, and stop wasting my time. You should read your own posts . I have been pointing out flaws in the claim that her words are restricted to certain members of government . You posted this..”The individual members of the government referred to, remain "scum" in terms of the comment aimed at them, for ever, no matter where they are, even after they leave parliament.” This is a new reality constructed inside you head . You need help. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 22, 2023 10:35:46 GMT
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Post by Bentley on Feb 22, 2023 10:41:17 GMT
Her words were “We cannot get any worse than a bunch of scum, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, absolute vile … banana republic, vile, nasty, Etonian … piece of scum,” she said at the event, before adding that she had “held back a little”” I’m not interested in her back pedalling afterwards |
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Post by Steve on Feb 22, 2023 10:42:56 GMT
And her words clarifying that were 'Johnson and his cabinet'
Do you need that explained to you?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2023 10:44:16 GMT
Her words were “We cannot get any worse than a bunch of scum, homophobic, racist, misogynistic, absolute vile … banana republic, vile, nasty, Etonian … piece of scum,” she said at the event, before adding that she had “held back a little”” I’m not interested in her back pedalling afterwards She could greet the Saudi representatives. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 22, 2023 10:44:20 GMT
And her words clarifying that were 'Johnson and his cabinet'Do you need that explained to you? Johnson and his cabinet = the Tories LOL |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 22, 2023 10:45:27 GMT
And her words clarifying that were 'Johnson and his cabinet'Do you need that explained to you? She was backpedaling. Do you need that explained to you ? |
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Post by Steve on Feb 22, 2023 10:46:36 GMT
She was clarifying what was a third party supposed account of what she'd said at the private meeting.
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Post by Steve on Feb 22, 2023 10:47:34 GMT
And her words clarifying that were 'Johnson and his cabinet'Do you need that explained to you? Johnson and his cabinet = the Tories LOL Well it clearly doesn't so equate so she was not accusing the Tories ie all Tories was she? |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 22, 2023 10:48:15 GMT
And her words clarifying that were 'Johnson and his cabinet'Do you need that explained to you? Johnson and his cabinet = the Tories LOL Indeed. According to the two apologists what she meant was that a back bencher promoted to minister instantly became scum and when they were demoted to the back benches they weren’t scum anymore . This is the kind of mental gymnastics that the Rayner simps will perform for her. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 22, 2023 10:48:51 GMT
She was clarifying what was a third party supposed account of what she'd said at the private meeting. She was back peddling. If that was what she meant then she should of said it . |
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