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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 13, 2023 13:49:05 GMT
I'd like someone to advocate another referendum on rejoining as a manifesto commitment - then we could all see exactly what the costs and rules would be. At the moment all we get is whinging and comparisons based on a membership formula which wouldn't apply in future. Oh right, just like the detailed plan the Leave team presented before (and after) the last referendum? Brexit Means Brexit was the best anyone could come up with until Boris's brilliant Get Brexit Done. Here I've got a plan for you, Rejoin Means Rejoin. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 13, 2023 13:51:14 GMT
Rejoining won't happen.
Get over it.
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 13, 2023 13:51:45 GMT
No good Vinny, that's 4 words. The British voter won't be able to take that onboard. Try simplifying it to - No Going Back. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 13, 2023 13:53:27 GMT
Rejoining won't happen. Get over it. A return to the single market is a possibility though, along with free movement of people, goods and services. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 13, 2023 13:54:41 GMT
No good Vinny, that's 4 words. The British voter won't be able to take that onboard. Try simplifying it to - No Going Back. Listen to Vinny - He knows stuff. The prediction in his signature that Putin will die one day is almost certainly correct. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 13, 2023 13:55:57 GMT
That's a possibility, but given how much of a declining market the EU is, it's not that important.
Besides, every leftie would throw a fit when they realise the move would throw a spanner in the works blocking their aspirations to nationalise everything.
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 13, 2023 14:00:27 GMT
That's a possibility, but given how much of a declining market the EU is, it's not that important. Besides, every leftie would throw a fit when they realise the move would throw a spanner in the works blocking their aspirations to nationalise everything. Still our largest trading partner and that is important. Made up fantasies about hard left loonies are a mere diversion from the fact Brexit is not going your way. |
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 13, 2023 14:02:31 GMT
That's a possibility, but given how much of a declining market the EU is, it's not that important. Besides, every leftie would throw a fit when they realise the move would throw a spanner in the works blocking their aspirations to nationalise everything. Declining market? Don't you think the Eastern European economies will grow in the same way the Irish economy did? When the Irish economy grew, Ireland became a much bigger market for the UK. Why wouldn't the same happen when the Eastern European economies develop? Or don't you think the Eastern European economies will develop? Is it your experience that Eastern Europeans are lazy? Why won't the same formula that worked so well for Ireland work for Eastern Europe? |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 13, 2023 14:08:24 GMT
That's a possibility, but given how much of a declining market the EU is, it's not that important. Besides, every leftie would throw a fit when they realise the move would throw a spanner in the works blocking their aspirations to nationalise everything. Still our largest trading partner and that is important. Made up fantasies about hard left loonies are a mere diversion from the fact Brexit is not going your way. No, the rest of the world is our largest trading partner. And we're doing more trade with it. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 13, 2023 14:15:35 GMT
Still our largest trading partner and that is important. Made up fantasies about hard left loonies are a mere diversion from the fact Brexit is not going your way. No, the rest of the world is our largest trading partner. And we're doing more trade with it. Slightly and that's only because trading with the EU has become such a pain in the arse many companies have given up on it. Like the fishermen. Not only did they get shafted on post Brexit quotas but they lost markets for their catches in the EU and have to flog their wares off cheap elsewhere. Still, sovereignty and blue passports. I'm sure they still think it was worth it... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2023 14:24:55 GMT
No, the rest of the world is our largest trading partner. And we're doing more trade with it. Slightly and that's only because trading with the EU has become such a pain in the arse many companies have given up on it. Like the fishermen. Not only did they get shafted on post Brexit quotas but they lost markets for their catches in the EU and have to flog their wares off cheap elsewhere. Still, sovereignty and blue passports. I'm sure they still think it was worth it... Of course it was worth it. The issue is that the mainstream parties are filled with EUphiles who have been dragging their feet and sabotaging the process for years.
The problem is the current British government where the alternative party is even worse. Obviously Brexit wasn't enough to drain the swamp.
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Post by Einhorn on Feb 13, 2023 14:36:20 GMT
Slightly and that's only because trading with the EU has become such a pain in the arse many companies have given up on it. Like the fishermen. Not only did they get shafted on post Brexit quotas but they lost markets for their catches in the EU and have to flog their wares off cheap elsewhere. Still, sovereignty and blue passports. I'm sure they still think it was worth it...
The problem is the current British government where the alternative party is even worse. Obviously Brexit wasn't enough to drain the swamp.
Good thing you and your formidable army of OAPs are about to put things right, then.  |
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 13, 2023 14:42:28 GMT
Slightly and that's only because trading with the EU has become such a pain in the arse many companies have given up on it. Like the fishermen. Not only did they get shafted on post Brexit quotas but they lost markets for their catches in the EU and have to flog their wares off cheap elsewhere. Still, sovereignty and blue passports. I'm sure they still think it was worth it... Of course it was worth it. The issue is that the mainstream parties are filled with EUphiles who have been dragging their feet and sabotaging the process for years.
The problem is the current British government where the alternative party is even worse. Obviously Brexit wasn't enough to drain the swamp.
Damn those pesky elected representatives and their Parliamentary Supremacy. If it wasn't for them we'd have gotten clean away with it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2023 14:43:18 GMT
Of course it was worth it. The issue is that the mainstream parties are filled with EUphiles who have been dragging their feet and sabotaging the process for years.
The problem is the current British government where the alternative party is even worse. Obviously Brexit wasn't enough to drain the swamp.
Damn those pesky elected representatives and their Parliamentary Supremacy. If it wasn't for them we'd have gotten clean away with it. What a mature response. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2023 15:04:27 GMT
Undermine the agreement that, a couple of years back, he himself tried to change completely? This David Frost is one slimy, nasty piece of work! Now he says that says Brexit doesn't need fixing. But a couple of years back, he admitted that " we knew that some aspects of the protocol as it stood ... were problematic. We did not particularly support them ourselves, we agreed with them because it was the right thing to do ... looking at the wider political debate and the need to deliver on Brexit. (The Mirror, Oct 21) The man is deranged. He is a menace to society. --------------------------- The UK’s former chief Brexit negotiator has urged the Government to “fully and enthusiastically embrace the advantages of Brexit” as he warned of a plot to undermine the agreement.
Lord Frost referred to a “secret” cross-party gathering on foreign affairs ... as “a further piece of evidence that many in our political and business establishment want to unravel the deals we did to exit the EU in 2020 and to stay shadowing the EU instead”.
Lord Frost continued: “Brexit doesn’t need ‘fixing’. It needs this Conservative Government, elected with a huge mandate on a Brexit programme, to fully and enthusiastically embrace its advantages instead of leaving the field to those who never wanted it in the first place.uk.yahoo.com/news/lord-frost-calls-government-embrace-053131538.html |
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