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Post by Pacifico on Feb 13, 2023 8:48:03 GMT
Why are people worried...
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Post by see2 on Feb 13, 2023 9:49:01 GMT
You failed to understand the truth I posted which clearly explained, with evidence, the way "British jobs for British workers" has been distorted and yet you continue to push that lie even now. Shame on you. You have revealed the stunted thinking level you work at which leaves you stuck in your own little world, and you are clearly unable to see it. I very seldom read any of your posts because you are an overly biased and overly opinionated person, leaving you incapable of objective debate. aye im biased and so are you. Only liars try and tell people they are impartial.
It was extremely clear what gordon brown meant.
You are overly biased and make no attempt to be impartial, while I do at least make an effort to be impartial. You will never know what Brown meant until you read for yourself, what he actually said, and the context within which he said it. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2023 10:13:20 GMT
aye im biased and so are you. Only liars try and tell people they are impartial.
It was extremely clear what gordon brown meant.
You are overly biased and make no attempt to be impartial, while I do at least make an effort to be impartial. Well you do not always do a very good job of it with your highly biased mislabelling of political opponents to your left. And with your sycophantic hero worship of New Labour and utter inability to see any wrong in it as someone truly impartial could, citing the bad as well as the good. In short,, you are as biased towards your own political perspective as the rest of us. Your attempts to deny that fact are kidding no one. Your own inherent biases are plain to see. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 13, 2023 13:56:09 GMT
You are overly biased and make no attempt to be impartial, while I do at least make an effort to be impartial. Well you do not always do a very good job of it with your highly biased mislabelling of political opponents to your left. And with your sycophantic hero worship of New Labour and utter inability to see and wrong in it as someone truly impartial could, citing the bad as well as the good. In short,, you are as biased towards your own political perspective as the rest of us. Your attempts to deny that fact are kidding no one. Your own inherent biases are plain to see. Well I did modify my original comment from left-wing extremist (Which is still my opinion of the hard left, not far-left as you chose to read it even though I explained myself to you.) to the "less moderate" Labour supporters. Which you cannot, in all honesty, deny. Now you post a lie about me inferring that I have "sycophantic hero worship of New Labour", I defend NL when people like yourself make false accusations against them. That's me being honest and people like yourself being dishonest, and revealing your absolute bias in the process. Clearly you are in no position to judge me. The fact that Pacifico likes your post shows just what a shit head he can be  |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 13, 2023 15:26:56 GMT
Well you do not always do a very good job of it with your highly biased mislabelling of political opponents to your left. And with your sycophantic hero worship of New Labour and utter inability to see and wrong in it as someone truly impartial could, citing the bad as well as the good. In short,, you are as biased towards your own political perspective as the rest of us. Your attempts to deny that fact are kidding no one. Your own inherent biases are plain to see. Well I did modify my original comment from left-wing extremist (Which is still my opinion of the hard left, not far-left as you chose to read it even though I explained myself to you.) to the "less moderate" Labour supporters. Which you cannot, in all honesty, deny. Now you post a lie about me inferring that I have "sycophantic hero worship of New Labour", I defend NL when people like yourself make false accusations against them. That's me being honest and people like yourself being dishonest, and revealing your absolute bias in the process. Clearly you are in no position to judge me. You should be both left wing and right wing to avoid flying lop-sided. I'm neither so I fly perfectly.  |
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Post by see2 on Feb 13, 2023 16:25:44 GMT
Well I did modify my original comment from left-wing extremist (Which is still my opinion of the hard left, not far-left as you chose to read it even though I explained myself to you.) to the "less moderate" Labour supporters. Which you cannot, in all honesty, deny. Now you post a lie about me inferring that I have "sycophantic hero worship of New Labour", I defend NL when people like yourself make false accusations against them. That's me being honest and people like yourself being dishonest, and revealing your absolute bias in the process. Clearly you are in no position to judge me. You should be both left wing and right wing to avoid flying lop-sided. I'm neither so I fly perfectly. Blair said "for the majority not the few" that covers two wings. I'm flying higher than you --- I think |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 13, 2023 16:29:16 GMT
You should be both left wing and right wing to avoid flying lop-sided. I'm neither so I fly perfectly. Blair said "for the majority not the few" that covers two wings. I'm flying higher than you --- I think |
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Post by see2 on Feb 13, 2023 17:26:44 GMT
So in short you have no life beyond parroting the Daily Mail and stalking moderators from forums where at times you got held to the rules. How lucky that such matches your IQ At least i have an IQ.... isn't it about time you started another thread with the same amount of comedy as your last one LOL?.....Anyway I have far better things to do than listen and respond to a totaly dishonest and self deluded still smarting loser.Even though you deserve it that really isn't the way to describe yourself. |
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Post by Steve on Feb 14, 2023 9:50:07 GMT
. .if Jonksy is so obsessed with his failures at that other place why doesn't he start a dedicated thread about it. Then I can reveal far more of the truth as i will take that as permission to reveal his record there.How interesting that Jonksy hasn't taken up this suggestion but is still rattling about his failures thereMust be that bit in bold |
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Post by see2 on Feb 14, 2023 12:11:05 GMT
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Post by see2 on Feb 14, 2023 12:14:47 GMT
thomas ... "its funny though sid , a longtime labour supporter , calling the labour voting people of merseyside "bigots" . Its as if they have learned nothing in recent years" ................................................................. I have MOSTLY voted Labour, sometimes Lib Dem, and I was not refering to the people of Merseyside as been bigots, I was refering to posters her in this forum who jump to conclusions, make assumptions and make sweeping statements in order to further their prejudiced minds. As for Knowsley and the wider area surrounding Knowsley, its as rock solid Labour as you can possibly get, the safest Labour seats in the country. You see, Liverpool people know who they are, what they are, and they remember ... they remember such things as poverty and hardships, and how the Unions gave them decency, hope and a fighting chance. The people of Merseyside see no point in voting for a party of millionaires, corrupt business men, and dodgy business dealings, aristocrats and the new breed of oportunist populists of the Red Wall variety. The people of Merseyside wipe their arse s on The Sun newspaper, there are no Conservative MPs in or around Liverpool, they dont exist. The people of Merseyside come out in their hundreds to protest about asylum seekers being housed in their community - good Labour folk one and all..  Says Mr Smart Mouth as he determinedly offers his biased opinion yet again. |
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Post by bancroft on Feb 14, 2023 12:29:45 GMT
Ever since the Toxteth riots of the 80s there has always been an element from Merseyside willing to take violent action.
Labour normally said it wasw due to economic conditions and again I would argeue it is the unfairness seen by poorer people from this area getting annoyed.
Yet because labour court the immigrant vote they now have to be labelled as racists.
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Post by see2 on Feb 14, 2023 13:08:41 GMT
Ever since the Toxteth riots of the 80s there has always been an element from Merseyside willing to take violent action. Labour normally said it wasw due to economic conditions and again I would argeue it is the unfairness seen by poorer people from this area getting annoyed. Yet because labour court the immigrant vote they now have to be labelled as racists. I was born and raised in Liverpool and lived the first 68 years of my life there. The Toxteth riots in Liverpool, 1981, were triggered by Thatcher's callous government which saw a Liverpool that was in need of help at that time, largely due to the loss of the dock work and shipbuilding, suffering a big increase in unemployment. I was 43 years old at the time, and it was the first real unrest I had witnessed. I don't recall any similar violent action being taken. I do recall her fight with the dock workers, but that was not physically violent. |
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Post by bancroft on Feb 14, 2023 13:29:59 GMT
Ever since the Toxteth riots of the 80s there has always been an element from Merseyside willing to take violent action. Labour normally said it wasw due to economic conditions and again I would argeue it is the unfairness seen by poorer people from this area getting annoyed. Yet because labour court the immigrant vote they now have to be labelled as racists. I was born and raised in Liverpool and lived the first 68 years of my life there. The Toxteth riots in Liverpool, 1981, were triggered by Thatcher's callous government which saw a Liverpool that was in need of help at that time, largely due to the loss of the dock work and shipbuilding, suffering a big increase in unemployment. I was 43 years old at the time, and it was the first real unrest I had witnessed. I don't recall any similar violent action being taken. I do recall her fight with the dock workers, but that was not physically violent. Did you grow up on a council estate? |
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Post by see2 on Feb 14, 2023 14:15:20 GMT
I was born and raised in Liverpool and lived the first 68 years of my life there. The Toxteth riots in Liverpool, 1981, were triggered by Thatcher's callous government which saw a Liverpool that was in need of help at that time, largely due to the loss of the dock work and shipbuilding, suffering a big increase in unemployment. I was 43 years old at the time, and it was the first real unrest I had witnessed. I don't recall any similar violent action being taken. I do recall her fight with the dock workers, but that was not physically violent. Did you grow up on a council estate? No, I used to live 10 to 20 minutes walk away from two. One of which did turn bandit and has a bad reputation even today. It saw the accidental? shooting of one 11 year old boy in 2007. But no riots that I'm aware of. I have frequently walked in and driven through those areas over the years with no problem. Ditto with the Bullring, Toxteth and Garston all of which have a rough or roughish reputation. |
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