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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 21, 2023 12:32:23 GMT
I haven't heard of any shortages of renewable energy. I would think that if there were shortages that would be the time to start complaining about it being unreliable. All energy is expensive, AFAIA UK renewable energy is sold at market price, that's why it is expensive. We should also remember that Gas in Britain is privately owned and thanks to privatisation the owners can sell their gas to the highest bidder and no one can stop them. Low carbon and green energy provides thousands of jobs. __"n the first months of 2020 Britain relied on renewable energy like never before. The power generated by clean energy projects eclipsed fossil fuels for the first time ever, making up almost half the electricity used to keep the lights on. www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/19/how-renewable-energy-could-power-britains-economic-recoveryCold snap forces National Grid to put three coal power generators on standby - news.sky.com/story/cold-snap-forces-national-grid-to-put-three-coal-power-plants-on-standby-12792900It aint rocket science. Regardless of the £billions the government throw at unreliable renewables, if the wind dont blow, wind turbines don't generate. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 21, 2023 13:01:42 GMT
I haven't heard of any shortages of renewable energy. I would think that if there were shortages that would be the time to start complaining about it being unreliable. All energy is expensive, AFAIA UK renewable energy is sold at market price, that's why it is expensive. We should also remember that Gas in Britain is privately owned and thanks to privatisation the owners can sell their gas to the highest bidder and no one can stop them. Low carbon and green energy provides thousands of jobs. __"n the first months of 2020 Britain relied on renewable energy like never before. The power generated by clean energy projects eclipsed fossil fuels for the first time ever, making up almost half the electricity used to keep the lights on. www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/may/19/how-renewable-energy-could-power-britains-economic-recoveryCold snap forces National Grid to put three coal power generators on standby - news.sky.com/story/cold-snap-forces-national-grid-to-put-three-coal-power-plants-on-standby-12792900It aint rocket science. Regardless of the £billions the government throw at unreliable renewables, if the wind dont blow, wind turbines don't generate. And solar panels do not generate in the dark. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 21, 2023 13:07:17 GMT
And solar panels do not generate in the dark. Fortunately electricety demand is much less at night. Lucky them!  |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 21, 2023 13:10:08 GMT
And solar panels do not generate in the dark. Fortunately electricety demand is much less at night. Lucky them! Very true mate but some businnesses operate only at night...... |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 21, 2023 13:14:15 GMT
Fortunately electricety demand is much less at night. Lucky them! Very true mate but some businnesses operate only at night...... Prostitutes? |
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Post by Orac on Feb 21, 2023 13:18:13 GMT
Solar panels are great, they can keep the lights on when you don't need them
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Post by jonksy on Feb 21, 2023 13:18:36 GMT
Very true mate but some businnesses operate only at night...... Prostitutes? Are we allowed to say that in these woke times? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 21, 2023 13:22:08 GMT
And solar panels do not generate in the dark. Indeed, jonksy. In fact, if you have a moment... Just lately I've been following the exploits of a couple who moved from California to Idaho, they bought a mountain, or a part of a mountain, built a house and live self sufficiently off grid. They installed many solar panels and it must be said they work brilliantly... when it's sunny. When it's not sunny they have a fuck off huge ex army diesel generator, when it's switched on you can see it glowing from the international space station. Cant beat living off grid, lol. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 21, 2023 13:26:34 GMT
And solar panels do not generate in the dark. Indeed, jonksy. In fact, if you have a moment... Just lately I've been following the exploits of a couple who moved from California to Idaho, they bought a mountain, or a part of a mountain, built a house and live self sufficiently off grid. They installed many solar panels and it must be said they work brilliantly... when it's sunny. When it's not sunny they have a fuck off huge ex army diesel generator, when it's switched on you can see it glowing from the international space station. Cant beat living off grid, lol. Heres a great Utube channel mate........
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 21, 2023 14:00:58 GMT
Indeed, jonksy. In fact, if you have a moment... Just lately I've been following the exploits of a couple who moved from California to Idaho, they bought a mountain, or a part of a mountain, built a house and live self sufficiently off grid. They installed many solar panels and it must be said they work brilliantly... when it's sunny. When it's not sunny they have a fuck off huge ex army diesel generator, when it's switched on you can see it glowing from the international space station. Cant beat living off grid, lol. Heres a great Utube channel mate........
This is the channel I mentioned previously. He's brilliant at designing stuff, she's a babe. What's not to like www.youtube.com/@ambitionstrikes/videos |
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Post by see2 on Feb 21, 2023 14:03:31 GMT
And solar panels do not generate in the dark. Indeed, jonksy. In fact, if you have a moment... Just lately I've been following the exploits of a couple who moved from California to Idaho, they bought a mountain, or a part of a mountain, built a house and live self sufficiently off grid. They installed many solar panels and it must be said they work brilliantly... when it's sunny. When it's not sunny they have a fuck off huge ex army diesel generator, when it's switched on you can see it glowing from the international space station. Cant beat living off grid, lol. Clearly some cases will be better than others. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 21, 2023 14:38:18 GMT
Nice one mate that will give me a good watch when I can't sleep.....I love Utube it is a constant source of enjoyment. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 21, 2023 15:08:39 GMT
Nice one mate that will give me a good watch when I can't sleep..... I love Utube it is a constant source of enjoyment.Me too.....all sorts of things, especially animals. |
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Post by patman post on Feb 21, 2023 16:06:23 GMT
OK, so quantify it a bit. How much of the cost of petrol and diesel at the pump is due to Net Zero. How much of the cost of domestic electric, gas and oil is due to Net Zero? How much of the rising costs of food is due to Net Zero? In fact, how many of the current difficulties in the UK are down to Net Zero… So suddenly we have gone from a question that asked: "can we really claim all rising energy costs are down to Net Zero?"
to: "how many of the current difficulties in the UK are down to Net Zero…"It's as though you have suddenly realised that your first question might not give the answer you are looking for.. ..very strange..  Why strange? The two comments you have extracted from two different post are actually complementary and reinforce the query.
Try this: can we really claim all rising energy costs are down to Net Zero? In fact how many of the current difficulties in the UK are down to Net Zero?
I note that you don't answer either the particular point or the general point on the UK's current difficulties...
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 21, 2023 18:23:51 GMT
So suddenly we have gone from a question that asked: "can we really claim all rising energy costs are down to Net Zero?"
to: "how many of the current difficulties in the UK are down to Net Zero…"It's as though you have suddenly realised that your first question might not give the answer you are looking for.. ..very strange.. Why strange? The two comments you have extracted from two different post are actually complementary and reinforce the query.
Try this: can we really claim all rising energy costs are down to Net Zero? In fact how many of the current difficulties in the UK are down to Net Zero?
I note that you don't answer either the particular point or the general point on the UK's current difficulties...
Well already I answered your first question - as to the second, what 'difficulties' do you have in mind? Try and be a bit more specific. |
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