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Post by patman post on Feb 9, 2023 18:28:09 GMT
So why aren’t they here in the places where they are needed? And £10 billion a year seems a reasonable membership fee compared to the economic disaster club the U.K. has joined… The answer to that is probably simple, once they established they could milk the generous welfare system, and claim more in benefits than what they were earning working, that's what they decided to do. Then sent a message back to family friends, and associates , to join the free for all UK. Isn’t that the cry about all the benefit claimants and food bank users today…? |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 9, 2023 18:35:32 GMT
The answer to that is probably simple, once they established they could milk the generous welfare system, and claim more in benefits than what they were earning working, that's what they decided to do. Then sent a message back to family friends, and associates , to join the free for all UK. Isn’t that the cry about all the benefit claimants and food bank users today…? When you are coming here to the UK as asylum seekers, migrants/illegal or economic migrants our benefits system must seem staggeringly generous, they must be scratching their heads wondering why people can't manage on £40,000+ income, and most of them are on family tax credits, like the nurses, teachers and the rest of the striking arseholes. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 9, 2023 18:37:05 GMT
Unemployment was still lower than in 1997, perhaps the question should be why were there so many UK citizens under 25 who had difficulty in filling in an employment application form during (and no doubt after) the early days of NL in office. If so many engineering shops hadn't have closed under Mrs. T. we would have had a healthy background of skilled personnel and no need for Polish electricians, plumbers and so on. Of course many wages increased after 2016, but these are not normal times, things may take some time to get back to something representing normal but as that happens high wages will start to reduce as things begin to go in favour of the employer once again. That would be the norm for this capitalist country. Do you walk around with your eyes closed? 6 million EU nationals flooded into the country and drove down wages with an over supply of labour (not to mention the additional strain on housing and public services). Also many lived in a way that meant they could take lower wages because they were here to build nest eggs and return home. How the fuck can a young British citizen who has a desire to buy a house and start a family compete with somebody who lives 6 to a house and is only here to build a nest egg? Also, why the hell are you still bleating on about Thatcher? That was over 30 years ago ffs!! The simple fact is that we flooded the UK with cheap labour and this allowed politicians and employers to neglect their duty to give OUR CHILDREN the right opportunities. I'll repeat it again, since Brexit employers have been forced to TRAIN OUR OWN PEOPLE instead of importing skills. I ask the same of you? Most Migrants came from outside of the EU. Why pick on the EU and ignore the major problem of immigration? OVER ALL there were 6 million from the EU AND THERE WERE STILL FEWER UNEMPLOYED THAN WHEN NL CAME TO OFFICE. The UK had an expanding economy in 2004 and not enough workers. Whos wage was driven down to a lower rate than the minimum wage? (Wages were driven down during the austerity years.) There was plenty of opportunity for educated British workers to get on the housing ladder. You must be thick if you do not recognise the work NL had to put in, in order to correct the many weakness Thatcher and the Tories left for NL to fix, and to find the money needed to fix them. I'll repeat for the umpteenth time Thatcher did major damage to the education system. NL corrected much of that damage. Neither yourself or anyone else will make any sense unless you/they look at both sides of the coin. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 9, 2023 18:39:17 GMT
Frankly, your appraisal of beach and seawater cleanliness legislation is way off target. The UK has been and has reverted to the dirty man of Europe — even including the Med… The question you should be asking yourself is why - as the regulations for water discharges have not changed since we were in the EU why is it getting worse?. Perhaps it is the reason john suggested? |
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Post by patman post on Feb 9, 2023 19:03:26 GMT
Isn’t that the cry about all the benefit claimants and food bank users today…? When you are coming here to the UK as asylum seekers, migrants/illegal or economic migrants our benefits system must seem staggeringly generous, they must be scratching their heads wondering why people can't manage on £40,000+ income, and most of them are on family tax credits, like the nurses, teachers and the rest of the striking arseholes. But these are not the people Brexit stopped — in fact, Brexit didn’t stop them, despite the promises of controlling our borders. It’s the care workers, hospitality staff, nursing assistants, NHS cleaners and porters, etc, that are missing — real workers looking after the things that keep the country going… |
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Post by patman post on Feb 9, 2023 19:06:30 GMT
Frankly, your appraisal of beach and seawater cleanliness legislation is way off target. The UK has been and has reverted to the dirty man of Europe — even including the Med… The question you should be asking yourself is why - as the regulations for water discharges have not changed since we were in the EU why is it getting worse?. Perhaps it is the reason john suggested? Regulations may not have changed. But the dirty discharges have increased, and penalties and corrections are slow to be applied. Why would any water company be fearful today…? |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 9, 2023 22:29:06 GMT
The question you should be asking yourself is why - as the regulations for water discharges have not changed since we were in the EU why is it getting worse?. Perhaps it is the reason john suggested? Regulations may not have changed. But the dirty discharges have increased, and penalties and corrections are slow to be applied. Why would any water company be fearful today…? Why are you discounting the possibility that john might be correct - that it is the way EU rules have been structured? |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 12, 2023 23:23:12 GMT
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Post by see2 on Feb 13, 2023 14:09:37 GMT
Yes. It's a pity that nobody realised that many of the 6 million EU nationals were also doing a lot of the unskilled jobs which the British don't want such as working in care homes. You can get unskilled labour from anywhere in the world - you dont have to pay £10 Billion a year for the privilege. Dopy comment ^^^ |
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Post by see2 on Feb 13, 2023 14:15:53 GMT
Whatever is economically best for the UK should influence future choices. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 13, 2023 17:36:00 GMT
You can get unskilled labour from anywhere in the world - you dont have to pay £10 Billion a year for the privilege. Dopy comment ^^^ Then you are thick |
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Post by see2 on Feb 13, 2023 17:57:10 GMT
Nope, just not a dick head like yourself. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 13, 2023 22:26:26 GMT
Nope, just not a dick head like yourself. ..says the dick head who thinks you need to pay £10 billion a year for unskilled labour..  |
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Post by see2 on Feb 13, 2023 22:30:06 GMT
Nope, just not a dick head like yourself. ..says the dick head who thinks you need to pay £10 billion a year for unskilled labour.. Just think about what you are posting, you are actually insulting yourself. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 13, 2023 22:44:23 GMT
..says the dick head who thinks you need to pay £10 billion a year for unskilled labour.. Just think about what you are posting, you are actually insulting yourself. I know that you struggle a bit but just take a moment. Do you really think that countries around the globe feel the need to pay £10 billion a year for unskilled labour?  |
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