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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 5, 2023 16:15:44 GMT
the Remainers, who hate their own country, You've just imagined that. Of course, it isn't true. But they must hate something about it to see it destroyed through being swallowed up by a hegemony. I agree much of the damage has been done already to that regard, most of our cities are unrecognisable shitholes compared to what they were in 72, and overall the country's identity and unity is wrecked. But i think the civil war that will come as the fuel prices continue to skyrocket while Rishi does fuck all and Hunt earns his nickname should sort that out. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 5, 2023 16:19:43 GMT
You've just imagined that. Of course, it isn't true. But they must hate something about it to see it destroyed through being swallowed up by a hegemony. I agree much of the damage has been done already to that regard, most of our cities are unrecognisable shitholes compared to what they were in 72, and overall the country's identity and unity is wrecked. But i think the civil war that will come as the fuel prices continue to skyrocket while Rishi does fuck all and Hunt earns his nickname should sort that out. There are rumblings in the Jungle mate.... |
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 5, 2023 22:17:32 GMT
Nobody had to explain themselves to an interloper like Barnier - that isn't his concern. |
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 5, 2023 22:19:17 GMT
10) Would Rejoiners commit to a referendum to approve the terms negotiated for a new relationship with the EU?I think I can already guess at the answer to this one..  IF it came to the point of actually rejoining the EU then things would have actually gone so drastically wrong with Brexit that membership would be deemed a necessity. I would favour a return to our normal position of Representative Democracy and allow the government to negotiate the terms of the new relationship. Like Pacifico said implied then... |
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Post by borchester on Feb 6, 2023 16:31:25 GMT
the Remainers, who hate their own country, You've just imagined that. Of course, it isn't true. So why did you vote for the UK to be ruled by the EU? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 6, 2023 17:51:55 GMT
You've just imagined that. Of course, it isn't true. So why did you vote for the UK to be ruled by the EU? Because I don't equate being an equal member of to "being ruled by". 🙄 |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 7, 2023 11:22:57 GMT
So why did you vote for the UK to be ruled by the EU? Because I don't equate being an equal member of to "being ruled by". 🙄 Did you get a vote on those you want to rule? The other 400 pluss million didn't. So where exactly is this mythical equality? |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 7, 2023 11:58:00 GMT
That doesn't make sense. Are you confused between states and citizens?
Edit: I don't want to "rule" anyone?
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Post by jonksy on Feb 7, 2023 12:19:27 GMT
That doesn't make sense. Are you confused between states and citizens? Edit: I don't want to "rule" anyone? It makes perfect sense, Where did I state you wanted to rule anyone? |
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Post by see2 on Feb 7, 2023 12:30:56 GMT
You've just imagined that. Of course, it isn't true. So why did you vote for the UK to be ruled by the EU? The UK has never been ruled by the EU. |
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 7, 2023 12:34:32 GMT
That doesn't make sense. Are you confused between states and citizens? Edit: I don't want to "rule" anyone? It makes perfect sense, Where did I state you wanted to rule anyone? in the bit where you said, "Did you get a vote on those you want to rule?" |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 7, 2023 12:41:38 GMT
It makes perfect sense, Where did I state you wanted to rule anyone? in the bit where you said, "Did you get a vote on those you want to rule?" Well did you? The other 400 million odd didn't |
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Post by see2 on Feb 7, 2023 12:46:59 GMT
You've just imagined that. Of course, it isn't true. But they must hate something about it to see it destroyed through being swallowed up by a hegemony. I agree much of the damage has been done already to that regard, most of our cities are unrecognisable shitholes compared to what they were in 72, and overall the country's identity and unity is wrecked. But i think the civil war that will come as the fuel prices continue to skyrocket while Rishi does fuck all and Hunt earns his nickname should sort that out. A period dominated by Tory administration. I voted remain for three main reasons. 1. The UK had too many underlying weaknesses in 2016 including the Economy, Education, Apprenticeships along with a destruction of too many internal British owned engineering businesses. 2. Given UK political history since 1951 I don't have much faith in this countries ability to steer a path to a future of any great success. 3. Regardless of how well this country does in the future, my instincts tell me that the future belongs to a United Europe. |
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 7, 2023 13:30:34 GMT
So why did you vote for the UK to be ruled by the EU? The UK has never been ruled by the EU. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong You know damn well the United Kingdom has been forced to adopt a shitload of laws and directives demanded of us by Brussels. In 1973 we only had to make the cars we drove compatible with one of the EEC countries if we wanted to sell it to them. Since Lisbon we have been forced to build to their demands regardless of where we wanted to sell. Similarly we could not farm crops or animals not on their approved list. We were forced to stop selling incandescent light bulbs and powerful lawn mowers I know you will come back with bullshit that these were good ideas we should have done anyway but that misses the point which is we send people to SW1A 0AA to argue those points and do it or not, and now we had to take it up the shitter from 27 appointed people 26 of whom we had no control over the appointing of and the 27th wed have liked to hang but couldnt thanks to the underhand actions of Tony Blair |
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Post by see2 on Feb 7, 2023 14:05:39 GMT
The UK has never been ruled by the EU. Wrong, Wrong, Wrong You know damn well the United Kingdom has been forced to adopt a shitload of laws and directives demanded of us by Brussels. In 1973 we only had to make the cars we drove compatible with one of the EEC countries if we wanted to sell it to them. Since Lisbon we have been forced to build to their demands regardless of where we wanted to sell. Similarly we could not farm crops or animals not on their approved list. We were forced to stop selling incandescent light bulbs and powerful lawn mowers I know you will come back with bullshit that these were good ideas we should have done anyway but that misses the point which is we send people to SW1A 0AA to argue those points and do it or not, and now we had to take it up the shitter from 27 appointed people 26 of whom we had no control over the appointing of and the 27th wed have liked to hang but couldnt thanks to the underhand actions of Tony Blair Doesn't "Forcing" the UK to build cars to EU laws only apply to cars we sell in the EU? Overpowered Lawn mowers wasted electricity and were unnecessarily noisy. It seems to me that most of the rules/laws from the EU are either about bringing in compatibility between the member countries, such as the everyone using the the same weights and measures. IMO a perfectly useful non-harmful way of proceeding. Or commonsense things like, changing the the size of holes in fishing nets and improving the destructive method of trawler fishing that was in use, both in the interests of fish supplies and of the fishermen. And the likes of cleaning up of coasts from sewage pollution. I can't think of any EU law of rules that has caused a problem to the UK. |
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