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Post by bancroft on Feb 13, 2023 12:14:52 GMT
Currently we are spending around £20 Billion on servicing Government debt - at some point you have to start living within your means. Well if Scotland and N.I go their own way that is probably £13bn saved as I don't think their tax revenue covers their own costs / needs. Then we have £3bn for hostel accommodation for asylum seekers 98% which are likely phoney. Then we could means tax wealthy pensioners for subsidised travel fares, free prescriptions etc. , winter heating allowance, guess £2bn Guess what that is around £18bn saved on paper. Never would be quite that simple yet does show what can be done if the political will is there.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 12:43:34 GMT
Sorry you can't keep up. Perhaps read the posts back to back, so you don't lose the thread. Well perhaps it would help if you stopped going off at a tangent. Failure to paint a rainbow does not cost anyone anything - failure to support our pensioners costs them dying. But somehow you believe that spending to be equivalent.. Well, for a start not supporting pensioners was not my suggestion, I spoke of the extra support Chelsea pensioners get. Secondly, it was just an analogy to highlight for you the point that you only want support cut for things you don't believe in. Which you proved admirably. Now your assumption is that the rainbows help no one, which is incorrect as I went to some measure but you ignored. So the problem is you don't see any need for help with inequality and therefore see no reason to spend any money on it. And that's where you stop. As I said if you don't support it its wasted money.
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 13, 2023 17:38:48 GMT
Well perhaps it would help if you stopped going off at a tangent. Failure to paint a rainbow does not cost anyone anything - failure to support our pensioners costs them dying. But somehow you believe that spending to be equivalent.. Well, for a start not supporting pensioners was not my suggestion, I spoke of the extra support Chelsea pensioners get. Secondly, it was just an analogy to highlight for you the point that you only want support cut for things you don't believe in. Which you proved admirably. Now your assumption is that the rainbows help no one, which is incorrect as I went to some measure but you ignored.
So the problem is you don't see any need for help with inequality and therefore see no reason to spend any money on it. And that's where you stop. As I said if you don't support it its wasted money. Gays and trans people are not complete without rainbows plastered over everything? - you have a very low opinion of them.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 17:51:04 GMT
Well, for a start not supporting pensioners was not my suggestion, I spoke of the extra support Chelsea pensioners get. Secondly, it was just an analogy to highlight for you the point that you only want support cut for things you don't believe in. Which you proved admirably. Now your assumption is that the rainbows help no one, which is incorrect as I went to some measure but you ignored.
So the problem is you don't see any need for help with inequality and therefore see no reason to spend any money on it. And that's where you stop. As I said if you don't support it its wasted money. Gays and trans people are not complete without rainbows plastered over everything? - you have a very low opinion of them. you just display more of your ignorance with each post. How about the government backed advert talking about domestic abuse? Is that a waste of money or are heterosexual women worth the money?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2023 18:07:10 GMT
Most people with more to offer do not obsess over their sexuality. It's only the attention seekers and those who'd rather debate nonsense all their lives that seem to rely on these trends. Imagine how much more we could accomplish if we applied all of that energy on things that actually matter.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 13, 2023 18:53:52 GMT
Most people with more to offer do not obsess over their sexuality. It's only the attention seekers and those who'd rather debate nonsense all their lives that seem to rely on these trends. Imagine how much more we could accomplish if we applied all of that energy on things that actually matter. Precisely so, the media is ever full of people pushing their gay agenda.
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Post by Orac on Feb 13, 2023 19:02:07 GMT
Most people with more to offer do not obsess over their sexuality. It's only the attention seekers and those who'd rather debate nonsense all their lives that seem to rely on these trends. Imagine how much more we could accomplish if we applied all of that energy on things that actually matter. I'm trying to imagine local councils painting roads to show support for men who like big tits. If it sounds absurd, that's precisely where we are. We are living in a Benny Hill movie.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 19:03:30 GMT
Most people with more to offer do not obsess over their sexuality. It's only the attention seekers and those who'd rather debate nonsense all their lives that seem to rely on these trends. Imagine how much more we could accomplish if we applied all of that energy on things that actually matter. You might obsess over your sexuality if you found it was stopping you getting work. I have had a senior manager ask if I was Ok with a job candidate who was transsexual because she might scare the public. Your ignorance of other peoples issues does you know credit.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 19:04:18 GMT
Most people with more to offer do not obsess over their sexuality. It's only the attention seekers and those who'd rather debate nonsense all their lives that seem to rely on these trends. Imagine how much more we could accomplish if we applied all of that energy on things that actually matter. I'm trying to imagine local councils painting roads to show support for men who like big tits. I'm trying to imagine if you could get more sick.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 13, 2023 19:13:14 GMT
Most people with more to offer do not obsess over their sexuality. It's only the attention seekers and those who'd rather debate nonsense all their lives that seem to rely on these trends. Imagine how much more we could accomplish if we applied all of that energy on things that actually matter. I'm trying to imagine local councils painting roads to show support for men who like big tits. lol....Back in the 70s there was a play on TV before the spoilsports got a hold of things. It featured a group of men traveling home from work on a train. It started of with one of them describing what he liked and then passed to the guy next to him and so on. The last guy, a bit of a nerd, took no part in the general banter but when it came to his turn he just said, "I like big tits" and every time it came round to him he said the same thing . Bloody hilarious.
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 19:20:16 GMT
I'm trying to imagine local councils painting roads to show support for men who like big tits. lol....Back in the 70s there was a play on TV before the spoilsports got a hold of things. It featured a group of men traveling home from work on a train. It started of with one of them describing what he liked and then passed to the guy next to him and so on. The last guy, a bit of a nerd, took no part in the general banter but when it came to his turn he just said, "I like big tits" and every time it came round to him he said the same thing . Bloody hilarious. Yes we have gone too far in censorship. I watched some of the old Alo Alo series with my wife and we agreed the young would run screaming from the room at the misogamy etc. We agreed they would never understand it was tongue in cheek.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2023 19:28:15 GMT
Most people with more to offer do not obsess over their sexuality. It's only the attention seekers and those who'd rather debate nonsense all their lives that seem to rely on these trends. Imagine how much more we could accomplish if we applied all of that energy on things that actually matter. You might obsess over your sexuality if you found it was stopping you getting work. I have had a senior manager ask if I was Ok with a job candidate who was transsexual because she might scare the public. Your ignorance of other peoples issues does you know credit. Your arrogance appears to have left you mistaken. I just see through it.
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Post by Orac on Feb 13, 2023 19:35:12 GMT
I'm trying to imagine local councils painting roads to show support for men who like big tits. lol....Back in the 70s there was a play on TV before the spoilsports got a hold of things. It featured a group of men traveling home from work on a train. It started of with one of them describing what he liked and then passed to the guy next to him and so on. The last guy, a bit of a nerd, took no part in the general banter but when it came to his turn he just said, "I like big tits" and every time it came round to him he said the same thing . Bloody hilarious. I was young at the time but i have some memories of Benny Hill. One sketch in particular stuck in my mind, in which prisoners got to choose the method of their execution. I recall that being chased over a cliff edge by hundreds of women in swimwear was one of chosen execution methods
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Post by Orac on Feb 13, 2023 19:36:45 GMT
I'm trying to imagine local councils painting roads to show support for men who like big tits. I'm trying to imagine if you could get more sick. You take the view that only some sexual preferences are worthy of being celebrated by road markings?
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Post by zanygame on Feb 13, 2023 19:40:31 GMT
You might obsess over your sexuality if you found it was stopping you getting work. I have had a senior manager ask if I was Ok with a job candidate who was transsexual because she might scare the public. Your ignorance of other peoples issues does you know credit. Your arrogance appears to have left you mistaken. I just see through it. Whatever. I long ago gave up trying to educate people like you, but you do have some purpose. You demonstrate the need for the very things you deny are needed.
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