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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 2, 2023 4:34:38 GMT
Tedi Fanta Hagos, 27, of Ravenhill, Swansea, launched a ferocious assault on unsuspecting Stephen Dempsey, 60, from Leigh-on-Sea in July 2021. www.londonworld.com/news/crime/oxford-street-murder-soho-attack-4010651The above link gives the impression that this peice of immigrant detritus comes from Wales. That impression is wrong. This "poor downtrodden refugee" is a criminal from Eritrea. But as far as Care 4 Calais and similar deluded lefties are concerned, that doesn't matter. Care 4 Calais believe all displaced persons should be welcomed to the UK and they are in Calais briefing illegals what to say and helping them to get to England. A charity? Care 4 Calais should be a proscribed organisation. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 6:53:53 GMT
Nobody believes "all displaced persons should be welcomed to the UK" only that displaced people should be treated with respect and given a safe place to make their claim. If their claim is 'false' they, like so many are, should be returned to their country of origin.
Mind you the Government shows no respect to its own citizens, never mind those that do not look like us or follow a different religion, so why would we expect any different for refugees.
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Post by Toreador on Feb 2, 2023 8:01:59 GMT
Nobody believes "all displaced persons should be welcomed to the UK" only that displaced people should be treated with respect and given a safe place to make their claim. If their claim is 'false' they, like so many are, should be returned to their country of origin. Mind you the Government shows no respect to its own citizens, never mind those that do not look like us or follow a different religion, so why would we expect any different for refugees. What about the ones whe were not displaced, merely opportunists. How about taking them out 12 miles into the Channel and telling them Calais is the shorter swim. |
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Post by seniorcitizen007 on Feb 3, 2023 1:34:08 GMT
I Was acquainted with a Ugandan man who was imprisoned and tortured during the Idi Amin regime. He was accepted into the UK as a refugee. One day he brutally murdered his best friend (stabbing him numerous times) ... whilst suffering from extreme paranoia (so he told me). He then spent ten years in Broadmoor. After his release he was housed in a hostel for homeless men ... where he associated with other men with "dangerous" backgrounds. When he described the murder to me he showed no trace of remorse ... he seemed "proud" of what he'd done. The medication he was on kept him happy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 6:32:29 GMT
Nobody believes "all displaced persons should be welcomed to the UK" only that displaced people should be treated with respect and given a safe place to make their claim. If their claim is 'false' they, like so many are, should be returned to their country of origin. Mind you the Government shows no respect to its own citizens, never mind those that do not look like us or follow a different religion, so why would we expect any different for refugees. What about the ones whe were not displaced, merely opportunists. How about taking them out 12 miles into the Channel and telling them Calais is the shorter swim. I have never argued against returning none genuine asylum seekers and that they should be returned but it appears some people would like to put their lives at risk to achieve their ends. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 6:33:31 GMT
I Was acquainted with a Ugandan man who was imprisoned and tortured during the Idi Amin regime. He was accepted into the UK as a refugee. One day he brutally murdered his best friend (stabbing him numerous times) ... whilst suffering from extreme paranoia (so he told me). He then spent ten years in Broadmoor. After his release he was housed in a hostel for homeless men ... where he associated with other men with "dangerous" backgrounds. When he described the murder to me he showed no trace of remorse ... he seemed "proud" of what he'd done. The medication he was on kept him happy. A sad case no doubt. |
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Post by Orac on Feb 4, 2023 10:56:14 GMT
Nobody believes "all displaced persons should be welcomed to the UK" only that displaced people should be treated with respect and given a safe place to make their claim. If their claim is 'false' they, like so many are, should be returned to their country of origin. Mind you the Government shows no respect to its own citizens, never mind those that do not look like us or follow a different religion, so why would we expect any different for refugees. If they are in France, they are already in a safe place in which they can make a claim. More broadly, your request can be seen as basically dishonest. If everyone who asks has to be 'given a safe place', then western countries have to be turned into third world refugee processing centres |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 4, 2023 12:21:42 GMT
Nobody believes "all displaced persons should be welcomed to the UK" only that displaced people should be treated with respect and given a safe place to make their claim. If their claim is 'false' they, like so many are, should be returned to their country of origin. Mind you the Government shows no respect to its own citizens, never mind those that do not look like us or follow a different religion, so why would we expect any different for refugees. None of the cross channel illegals are displaced people. Unless you believe France is unsafe and people smugglers are providing a legitimate business. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 14:45:41 GMT
Nobody believes "all displaced persons should be welcomed to the UK" only that displaced people should be treated with respect and given a safe place to make their claim. If their claim is 'false' they, like so many are, should be returned to their country of origin. Mind you the Government shows no respect to its own citizens, never mind those that do not look like us or follow a different religion, so why would we expect any different for refugees. If they are in France, they are already in a safe place in which they can make a claim. More broadly, your request can be seen as basically dishonest. If everyone who asks has to be 'given a safe place', then western countries have to be turned into third world refugee processing centres Yes they can make a claim in France but they cannot make a claim in France if they want to come to the UK. International law says they do not have to make a claim in any 'safe' country if they do not want to. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2023 14:47:00 GMT
Nobody believes "all displaced persons should be welcomed to the UK" only that displaced people should be treated with respect and given a safe place to make their claim. If their claim is 'false' they, like so many are, should be returned to their country of origin. Mind you the Government shows no respect to its own citizens, never mind those that do not look like us or follow a different religion, so why would we expect any different for refugees. None of the cross channel illegals are displaced people. Unless you believe France is unsafe and people smugglers are providing a legitimate business. None are displaced people, do you have evidence of that 'fact'? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 4, 2023 15:07:58 GMT
None of the cross channel illegals are displaced people. Unless you believe France is unsafe and people smugglers are providing a legitimate business. None are displaced people, do you have evidence of that 'fact'? Do you have any evidence they're not? As far as I'm aware they are comming from France. |
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Post by Bentley on Feb 4, 2023 15:16:30 GMT
If they are in France then the only reason that they want to come to the UK is that they want more than what they get in France .
That’s not asylum seeking . They already have asylum or could officially seek it in France .
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Post by Orac on Feb 4, 2023 15:17:07 GMT
Yes they can make a claim in France but they cannot make a claim in France if they want to come to the UK. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by this. They have no right to enter the UK whether they make a claim in France or not. Making a claim in France is up to them though |
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Post by sandypine on Feb 4, 2023 16:41:41 GMT
If they are in France, they are already in a safe place in which they can make a claim. More broadly, your request can be seen as basically dishonest. If everyone who asks has to be 'given a safe place', then western countries have to be turned into third world refugee processing centres Yes they can make a claim in France but they cannot make a claim in France if they want to come to the UK. International law says they do not have to make a claim in any 'safe' country if they do not want to. International law does not say that at all. International law indicates that the means of escape from a place of danger may involve crossing more than one border to reach a place of safety. International law did not foresee, nor does it explicitly allow, asylum shopping. That is the outcome of trying to cover all eventualities and of trying to be fair. No good deed goes unpunished and boy are we being punished. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2023 9:23:26 GMT
None are displaced people, do you have evidence of that 'fact'? Do you have any evidence they're not? As far as I'm aware they are comming from France. The evidence is clear they are not coming from France. Afghanistan, Syria.... They are going through France. |
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