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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 5, 2023 13:07:12 GMT
Do you have any evidence they're not? As far as I'm aware they are comming from France. The evidence is clear they are not coming from France. Afghanistan, Syria.... They are going through France. You obviously haven't heard of Albania, but I can assure you Albanians have heard of the UK and thanks to deluded lefties, yes people like you, the Albanian mafia are now in control of drugs prostitution and money laundering in this country. You must be very proud.
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Post by steppenwolf on Feb 14, 2023 8:11:23 GMT
Do you have any evidence they're not? As far as I'm aware they are comming from France. The evidence is clear they are not coming from France. Afghanistan, Syria.... They are going through France. France is a safe country so the UK does not have to accept "refugees" from France. Same goes for Albania. People do NOT have the right to tramp through safe countries until they arrive in a country they like.
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Post by Handyman on Feb 14, 2023 9:00:49 GMT
Tedi Fanta Hagos, 27, of Ravenhill, Swansea, launched a ferocious assault on unsuspecting Stephen Dempsey, 60, from Leigh-on-Sea in July 2021. www.londonworld.com/news/crime/oxford-street-murder-soho-attack-4010651The above link gives the impression that this peice of immigrant detritus comes from Wales. That impression is wrong. This "poor downtrodden refugee" is a criminal from Eritrea. But as far as Care 4 Calais and similar deluded lefties are concerned, that doesn't matter. Care 4 Calais believe all displaced persons should be welcomed to the UK and they are in Calais briefing illegals what to say and helping them to get to England. A charity? Care 4 Calais should be a proscribed organisation. Care4Calis held a counter protest outside the Hotel in Liverpool were some alleged refugees were being housed, perhaps that is what kicked off the violence
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Post by Handyman on Feb 14, 2023 9:04:26 GMT
The evidence is clear they are not coming from France. Afghanistan, Syria.... They are going through France. You obviously haven't heard of Albania, but I can assure you Albanians have heard of the UK and thanks to deluded lefties, yes people like you, the Albanian mafia are now in control of drugs prostitution and money laundering in this country. You must be very proud. The entire EU is full of alleged Asylum Seekers , they are having the same problems as the UK where to house them, how to stop them coming , how to identify them and how to remove them
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2023 10:40:44 GMT
The evidence is clear they are not coming from France. Afghanistan, Syria.... They are going through France. France is a safe country so the UK does not have to accept "refugees" from France. Same goes for Albania. People do NOT have the right to tramp through safe countries until they arrive in a country they like. Actually they do. "The UN Refugee Convention and UK case law supports this interpretation. Refugees can legitimately make a claim for asylum in the UK after passing through other “safe” countries".
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Post by Orac on Feb 16, 2023 11:06:10 GMT
France is a safe country so the UK does not have to accept "refugees" from France. Same goes for Albania. People do NOT have the right to tramp through safe countries until they arrive in a country they like. Actually they do. "The UN Refugee Convention and UK case law supports this interpretation. Refugees can legitimately make a claim for asylum in the UK after passing through other “safe” countries". Actually no. You are conflating two things. 'Refugees' in a safe country can make any 'claim' they want or can, but that theoretical right doesn't compel anyone to accept or allow entry.
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Post by sandypine on Feb 16, 2023 15:10:14 GMT
France is a safe country so the UK does not have to accept "refugees" from France. Same goes for Albania. People do NOT have the right to tramp through safe countries until they arrive in a country they like. Actually they do. "The UN Refugee Convention and UK case law supports this interpretation. Refugees can legitimately make a claim for asylum in the UK after passing through other “safe” countries". Not quite right. They are asylum seekers when they make a claim, in France and wherever else they have travelled through they were illegal migrants. If they do not make a claim in the UK on arrival, and/or disappear into the woodwork after making a claim their claim is null and void. If they are a refugee in France or an asylum seeker, they cannot travel to the UK or anywhere else legally or legally make a claim. Most are using a point in the Convention whereby consideration was given to a means of escape that necessitated crossing safe countries ie flying on false documents etc. It was never intended to be what it has become a refugee shopping expedition. Everyone knows the majority are taking the piss but in trying to be fair and considerate we are being taken for mugs and I think the majority of the electorate see that and are aghast at the inability or unwillingness of our government to deal with the issue effectively. Realistically it has been going on for 20 years or more and illegal stayers should be incarcerated until they agree to return from whence they came.
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Post by johnofgwent on Feb 17, 2023 11:31:55 GMT
If they are in France, they are already in a safe place in which they can make a claim. More broadly, your request can be seen as basically dishonest. If everyone who asks has to be 'given a safe place', then western countries have to be turned into third world refugee processing centres Yes they can make a claim in France but they cannot make a claim in France if they want to come to the UK. International law says they do not have to make a claim in any 'safe' country if they do not want to. There is no such thing as ‘international’ law. There are only jumped up arseholes who think this sovereign state should listen to them despite our having fuck all to do with them. Time to burn some treaties to return us to the above state i think
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 20, 2023 16:55:30 GMT
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