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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 2, 2023 19:59:21 GMT
YYes any Tory minister who asks Civil Servants to do their jobs is nothing but a big fat bully LOL Well Patel was actually found to be a bully and large sums were paid out as settlements for her victims. It looks so far like Raab is also a bully but if so it will come out in the wash. What there is no evidence at all of is a concerted attempt by reds under the bed refusing to do there jobs and making false bullying accusations against anyone asking them to. What I find most incredible here is that you are making such claims in the face of all the evidence of the actual bullying found to have taken place, whilst labouring under the laughable illusion that this somehow makes you look intelligent. lol It actually makes you look like an idiot. "Brilliant a conflict of interest, a Civil Servant investigating complaints on behalf of Civil Servants LOL "Sir Alexander Claud Stuart Allan" KCB (born 9 February 1951) is a British civil servant who served as chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee and Head of Intelligence Assessment for Her Majesty's Government between 2007 and 2011.
How the fuck could it be 'Independent', when the investigator was a Civil Servant LOL
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Post by Orac on Feb 2, 2023 20:00:52 GMT
The power problem. Power has to rest somewhere and in a democracy it should probably rest mostly among the elected. Of course, the unelected might argue that this process needs their 'oversight' and so they should have power. However, there is nothing intrinsically better about the unelected being in control rather than the elected and the problem is the people can't sack them - so, if this situation solidifies for any length of time it is quite likely to become quite chronically corrupt....and here we are
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 20:01:43 GMT
Brilliant a conflict of interest, a Civil Servant investigating complaints on behalf of Civil Servants LOL
"Sir Alexander Claud Stuart Allan" KCB (born 9 February 1951) is a British civil servant who served as chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee and Head of Intelligence Assessment for Her Majesty's Government between 2007 and 2011.
He resigned as the Prime Minister's Independent advisor on ministerial standards in November 2020.
Well pay outs of large sums were made to the victims to head off legal actions. That is not the actions of the innocent. lol And when an investigator finds evidence that does not back your ridiculous narrative, you attempt to accuse the investigator of not doing his job because he is also a civil servant. Again with a total lack of supporting evidence. And this in spite of the fact that his findings have been laid before you in detail via a link. You are making such a complete arse of yourself here that only a few of your usual band of gibbering baboons - Jokesy and co - could possibly agree with you. You are an apologist for workplace bullies which makes you pretty low as a human being in my book. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 2, 2023 20:13:07 GMT
Brilliant a conflict of interest, a Civil Servant investigating complaints on behalf of Civil Servants LOL
"Sir Alexander Claud Stuart Allan" KCB (born 9 February 1951) is a British civil servant who served as chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee and Head of Intelligence Assessment for Her Majesty's Government between 2007 and 2011.
He resigned as the Prime Minister's Independent advisor on ministerial standards in November 2020.
Well pay outs of large sums were made to the victims to head off legal actions. That is not the actions of the innocent. lol And when an investigator finds evidence that does not back your ridiculous narrative, you attempt to accuse the investigator of not doing his job because he is also a civil servant. Again with a total lack of supporting evidence. And this in spite of the fact that his findings have been laid before you in detail via a link. You are making such a complete arse of yourself here that only a few of your usual band of gibbering baboons - Jokesy and co - could possibly agree with you. You are an apologist for workplace bullies which makes you pretty low as a human being in my book. Civil Servants bullying ministers and blackmailing them with threats of bullying accusations, makes you a pretty 'dumb' low human being, bullying works both ways, and Civil Servants know full well Patel and Raab can't go crying to the government telling them they are being bullied by their staff.
That is what is going on, but you wouldn't know, because you don't know what day it is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 20:18:15 GMT
Well pay outs of large sums were made to the victims to head off legal actions. That is not the actions of the innocent. lol And when an investigator finds evidence that does not back your ridiculous narrative, you attempt to accuse the investigator of not doing his job because he is also a civil servant. Again with a total lack of supporting evidence. And this in spite of the fact that his findings have been laid before you in detail via a link. You are making such a complete arse of yourself here that only a few of your usual band of gibbering baboons - Jokesy and co - could possibly agree with you. You are an apologist for workplace bullies which makes you pretty low as a human being in my book. Civil Servants bullying ministers and blackmailing them with threats of bullying accusations, makes you a pretty 'dumb' low human being, bullying works both ways, and Civil Servants know full well Patel and Raab can't go crying to the government telling them they are being bullied by their staff.
That is what is going on, but you wouldn't know, because you don't know what day it is.
The evidence for employees bullying their employer with threats of false allegations is not on your side. Compensation payouts have been made to the employees, not the employers. And investigations seem to be finding that the bullying accusations against ministers hold water. Yet disgustingly, you are a low enough human being to defend the bullies by blaming the victims. Utterly contemptible. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 2, 2023 20:39:23 GMT
Civil Servants bullying ministers and blackmailing them with threats of bullying accusations, makes you a pretty 'dumb' low human being, bullying works both ways, and Civil Servants know full well Patel and Raab can't go crying to the government telling them they are being bullied by their staff.
That is what is going on, but you wouldn't know, because you don't know what day it is.
The evidence for employees bullying their employer with threats of false allegations is not on your side. Compensation payouts have been made to the employees, not the employers. And investigations seem to be finding that the bullying accusations against ministers hold water. Yet disgustingly, you are a low enough human being to defend the bullies by blaming the victims. Utterly contemptible. you are the lowlife, because you hate the Tories so much you'd back bullying Civil Servant staff.
They have refused to go in to the office they demand they WFH, that doesn't sound like bullied staff, that sounds like staff who don't want to be told what to do.
Patel was the victim of bulling staff, and it's disgusting that ministers become victims, they can not complain they are being bullied because they would be seen as 'weak'.
Your are a lowlife allowing Civil Servants to bully and blackmail ministers .... shame on you.
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 2, 2023 20:54:06 GMT
you are the lowlife, because you hate the Tories so much you'd back bullying Civil Servant staff. They have refused to go in to the office they demand they WFH, that doesn't sound like bullied staff, that sounds like staff who don't want to be told what to do. Patel was the victim of bulling staff, and it's disgusting that ministers become victims, they can not complain they are being bullied because they would be seen as 'weak'. Your are a lowlife allowing Civil Servants to bully and blackmail ministers .... shame on you. Why do you constantly make things up? This is all in your head. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 2, 2023 21:02:18 GMT
you are the lowlife, because you hate the Tories so much you'd back bullying Civil Servant staff. They have refused to go in to the office they demand they WFH, that doesn't sound like bullied staff, that sounds like staff who don't want to be told what to do. Patel was the victim of bulling staff, and it's disgusting that ministers become victims, they can not complain they are being bullied because they would be seen as 'weak'. Your are a lowlife allowing Civil Servants to bully and blackmail ministers .... shame on you. Why do you constantly make things up? This is all in your head. Why can't you see past your nose, talk about naive, gullible, you just can not think for yourself, Labour love people like you, you'll believe any old twaddle they peddle, thankfully some of us can use our intuition to realise when we are being fed Bullshit. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 2, 2023 21:02:41 GMT
Your question is logical and clear, all we need now is back-up to show that it is a creditable question. We all know they are fuckin snowflakes, they want Raab to say ... please can you do the job you are paid to do ... pretty please ... please oh please..
Raab is the exact man you need for the job, they just want to be glad it's not me in charge of them, because it would go something like this ...
Get your fuckin lazy WFH arses back in to the offices, you fat lazy whinging whining fuckers, the tax payers don't pay you to sit at home on your fuckin lard arses, they pay you to come in to work ... and fuckin work. Any more attempts to sabotage plans to get rid of illegal criminal migrants out of this country, and fuck Brexit up you'll be kick out, you leftie loving woke fuckin snowflakes, ... I don't care if your feelings are hurt boohoo, get your fuckin jobs done...
Or words to that effect ^^
Well you would soon find yourself out of politics with a severally lightened bank account, and looking for a job with a fascist government if you could find one. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 2, 2023 21:05:42 GMT
I already have explained that well known saying  You certainly have . You live it 😆 You can see that when you have nothing positive to post ^^^ you return to your argumentative self. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 2, 2023 21:11:58 GMT
No, that's still to be determined. It was denying he knew about Chris Pincher. BOLLOCKS...,.,Back to the drawing board.....Lefty For asking a question? You really are a knob head who would benefit from asking questions instead of continually pushing your bullying righty nonsense approach. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 2, 2023 21:14:59 GMT
The other point is that it was a takeaway meal connected to working away from home or the normal office. Something I did a couple of times legally during the restrictions... ...I see, so you and thirty mates who were all in the same room scoffed a £200 take out washed down with lashings of San Miguel. Fair enough. According to the Durham Constabulary and Durham Police and Crime Commissioner, who attended Starmers beer & curry bash, such a gathering was perfectly acceptable and within the rules. However, had cake been on the table, well that's another matter entirely. Beer & curry, yes. Cake, absolutely not. Wake up, your train has already left the station. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 2, 2023 21:16:41 GMT
If it were Johnson who had attended the Beer and Curry Bash would all those who are claiming it was perfectly legal be saying the same? There would be no point after it had been looked into and no guilt was found. |
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Post by see2 on Feb 2, 2023 21:18:34 GMT
It would not be a major source of controversy when set against his frequent attendance at actual alcohol fuelled parties. I for one would not see it as any kind of big deal if after a long days work he and colleagues ordered a takeaway which included a glass of beer. You see, I can tell the difference between that and a party. As opposed to Boris having a piece of cake after a long day's work? Let those with the authority and the means of investigating make the decisions. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 21:20:21 GMT
The evidence for employees bullying their employer with threats of false allegations is not on your side. Compensation payouts have been made to the employees, not the employers. And investigations seem to be finding that the bullying accusations against ministers hold water. Yet disgustingly, you are a low enough human being to defend the bullies by blaming the victims. Utterly contemptible. you are the lowlife, because you hate the Tories so much you'd back bullying Civil Servant staff.
They have refused to go in to the office they demand they WFH, that doesn't sound like bullied staff, that sounds like staff who don't want to be told what to do.
Patel was the victim of bulling staff, and it's disgusting that ministers become victims, they can not complain they are being bullied because they would be seen as 'weak'.
Your are a lowlife allowing Civil Servants to bully and blackmail ministers .... shame on you.
You are the fucking lowlife!!! There is zero evidence for your ridiculous assertion that civil servants are bullying ministers. All the evidence in terms of settlement payments and investigations point to the exact opposite. Shame on you for blaming the victims without a shred of evidence. Utterly despicable. Your username is a total misnomer. Fair society my arse. You wouldn't know the meaning of the words. |
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