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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 18:42:01 GMT
If it were Johnson who had attended the Beer and Curry Bash would all those who are claiming it was perfectly legal be saying the same? It would not be a major source of controversy when set against his frequent attendance at actual alcohol fuelled parties. I for one would not see it as any kind of big deal if after a long days work he and colleagues ordered a takeaway which included a glass of beer. You see, I can tell the difference between that and a party. |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 2, 2023 18:49:08 GMT
If it were Johnson who had attended the Beer and Curry Bash would all those who are claiming it was perfectly legal be saying the same? It would not be a major source of controversy when set against his frequent attendance at actual alcohol fuelled parties. I for one would not see it as any kind of big deal if after a long days work he and colleagues ordered a takeaway which included a glass of beer. You see, I can tell the difference between that and a party. So the difference between that and after a long days work he and colleagues had a slice of cake which included a glass of wine? Is it the cake or wine that makes it a party? |
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Post by borchester on Feb 2, 2023 18:49:50 GMT
If it were Johnson who had attended the Beer and Curry Bash would all those who are claiming it was perfectly legal be saying the same? It would not be a major source of controversy when set against his frequent attendance at actual alcohol fuelled parties. I for one would not see it as any kind of big deal if after a long days work he and colleagues ordered a takeaway which included a glass of beer. You see, I can tell the difference between that and a party. As opposed to Boris having a piece of cake after a long day's work? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 18:54:05 GMT
Just the usual lefty twats led witchunt mate....And now the same mother fuckers have started on Dominic Raab and the usual lefty trolls fall for it hook line and sinker.....I see the usual big mouthed troll doesn't bless us with his precence so often....Oh dear......But of course these are the same old bunch of imbreds who condemened Rab until he went darkside and then he became a frigging hero FFS.
Civil servants who were allegedly bullied by Dominic Raab have “suffered mental health crises”, the leader of a union which represents senior Whitehall officials has said.
FDA general secretary Dave Penman also denied claims by allies of the Deputy Prime Minister that the complaints against him are a politically-motivated attempt to force him out.
Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has tasked lawyer Adam Tolley KC with investigating bullying claims against Mr Raab, with dozens of civil servants believed to be involved in eight formal complaints.
They call it bullying if they aren't allowed to continue with their leftie agendas.
Raab quite rightly told them to get to fuckin work and do what the tax payers are paying them to do, instead of trying thwart attempts to stop these illegal migrants, and the hand they played in trying to sabotage Brexit, these whinging whining fuckers are running this country, and any one like Raab who calls them out, they accuse of bullying, and try to get them kicked out.
Since when being asked to do the job you are paid to do become 'bullying', FFS ... fire the fuckin lot of them, the woke useless, lazy over paid, under worked fuckin arseholes.
So bullying claims against the same boss by multiple employees you dismiss as a politically motivated attack on that boss, without any evidence to back your wild assertions? Workplace bullying is a very ugly thing and laws exist against it for a reason. It can have a negative impact on the mental and emotional health of victims for one thing. People have been driven to suicide by it. At the moment these allegations are being investigated. In the highly unlikely event that this is all a politically motivated conspiracy by supposed reds under the bed types (lol) then any evidence of that will be used to exonerate Raab. But it is rather more plausible to me that the accusations hold water. But let's see which of us is right when the outcome is known. And lets see if any of his alleged victims pursue legal action against him and whether or not - after all evidence has been presented in a court of law - he is found liable. If the outcome of all this ends up backing your wild and ridiculous assertions, I shall eat my hat. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 19:01:31 GMT
It would not be a major source of controversy when set against his frequent attendance at actual alcohol fuelled parties. I for one would not see it as any kind of big deal if after a long days work he and colleagues ordered a takeaway which included a glass of beer. You see, I can tell the difference between that and a party. So the difference between that and after a long days work he and colleagues had a slice of cake which included a glass of wine? Is it the cake or wine that makes it a party? Well one resembles food and refreshments whilst working. The other looks rather more like a birthday celebration. In any case, neither of us are privy to all the precise details but both have been thoroughly investigated by the police. Look to see who was fined and who not to determine who was breaking the law here. And no one was fined for the risible and wholly ridiculous piece of whatabouter that was so called beergate. And I speak as someone who has no love for Starmer and sees him as as much of a political enemy of everything I believe in as I do the Tories. But I do have the ability to separate facts from my own political agendas. Not quite so sure about you in all this. |
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Post by zanygame on Feb 2, 2023 19:04:23 GMT
Has anyone mentioned that one of these Men was the actual guy who made the rules.
Just asking for a friend.😇
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 19:06:41 GMT
It would not be a major source of controversy when set against his frequent attendance at actual alcohol fuelled parties. I for one would not see it as any kind of big deal if after a long days work he and colleagues ordered a takeaway which included a glass of beer. You see, I can tell the difference between that and a party. As opposed to Boris having a piece of cake after a long day's work? I refer you to the reply I gave to Pacifico. But will repeat here that both were thoroughly investigated by the police and the attendees at so called beergate were wholly exonerated. Not so for all the fines handed out to those attending Downing St parties. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 2, 2023 19:14:38 GMT
They call it bullying if they aren't allowed to continue with their leftie agendas.
Raab quite rightly told them to get to fuckin work and do what the tax payers are paying them to do, instead of trying thwart attempts to stop these illegal migrants, and the hand they played in trying to sabotage Brexit, these whinging whining fuckers are running this country, and any one like Raab who calls them out, they accuse of bullying, and try to get them kicked out.
Since when being asked to do the job you are paid to do become 'bullying', FFS ... fire the fuckin lot of them, the woke useless, lazy over paid, under worked fuckin arseholes.
So bullying claims against the same boss by multiple employees you dismiss as a politically motivated attack on that boss, without any evidence to back your wild assertions? Workplace bullying is a very ugly thing and laws exist against it for a reason. It can have a negative impact on the mental and emotional health of victims for one thing. People have been driven to suicide by it. At the moment these allegations are being investigated. In the highly unlikely event that this is all a politically motivated conspiracy by supposed reds under the bed types (lol) then any evidence of that will be used to exonerate Raab. But it is rather more plausible to me that the accusations hold water. But let's see which of us is right when the outcome is known. And lets see if any of his alleged victims pursue legal action against him and whether or not - after all evidence has been presented in a court of law - he is found liable. If the outcome of all this ends up backing your wild and ridiculous assertions, I shall eat my hat. How come Priti Patel when she first became Home Secretary in 2019 was accused of bulling staff?
Civil Servants ganging up on ministers who want them to do the jobs they are employed to do, because they don't want to comply they accuse the ministers of bullying.
It's blatantly obvious what is going on, Civil Servants don't feel they should work for a Tory government, it's rife with the leftie woke snowflakes who think it is them who should be running the country, and wont be told what to do by the Tories. The same set of Civil Servants who are refusing to go back to the office because they want to WFH, they call the shots.
Time to drain the swamp, these Civil Servants are running the country, they are our unelected government running the show, time to kick them out.
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 2, 2023 19:20:20 GMT
How come Priti Patel when she first became Home Secretary in 2019 was accused of bulling staff? The inquiry said that she did bully, although it was stated that this may not have been intentional and that she may not have meant to do it. BoJo let her off, forcing thee guy who conducted the inquiry to have to resign. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 19:25:15 GMT
So bullying claims against the same boss by multiple employees you dismiss as a politically motivated attack on that boss, without any evidence to back your wild assertions? Workplace bullying is a very ugly thing and laws exist against it for a reason. It can have a negative impact on the mental and emotional health of victims for one thing. People have been driven to suicide by it. At the moment these allegations are being investigated. In the highly unlikely event that this is all a politically motivated conspiracy by supposed reds under the bed types (lol) then any evidence of that will be used to exonerate Raab. But it is rather more plausible to me that the accusations hold water. But let's see which of us is right when the outcome is known. And lets see if any of his alleged victims pursue legal action against him and whether or not - after all evidence has been presented in a court of law - he is found liable. If the outcome of all this ends up backing your wild and ridiculous assertions, I shall eat my hat. How come Priti Patel when she first became Home Secretary in 2019 was accused of bulling staff?
Because she actually was guilty of bullying staff. She was after all investigated and found to be guilty but Bozo refused to take action against her anyway, in response to which his ethics adviser resigned. Large sums were paid out as settlements for her victims. So the evidence for her bullying is clear. |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 2, 2023 19:29:37 GMT
Y How come Priti Patel when she first became Home Secretary in 2019 was accused of bulling staff?
Because she actually was guilty of bullying staff. She was after all investigated and found to be guilty but Bozo refused to take action against her anyway, in response to which his ethics adviser resigned. Large sums were paid out as settlements for her victims. So the evidence for her bullying is clear. Yes any Tory minister who asks Civil Servants to do their jobs is nothing but a big fat bully LOL |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 2, 2023 19:32:46 GMT
How come Priti Patel when she first became Home Secretary in 2019 was accused of bulling staff? The inquiry said that she did bully, although it was stated that this may not have been intentional and that she may not have meant to do it. BoJo let her off, forcing thee guy who conducted the inquiry to have to resign. Yes Patel should never have asked her staff to do the job they are paid to do, how dare she.
Any Tory minister who asks Civil Servants to get on with what they are tasked to do ... will be bullies LOL
Civil Servants run the country, the government must obey them, or they will be accused of bullying.
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Post by andrewbrown on Feb 2, 2023 19:40:53 GMT
The inquiry said that she did bully, although it was stated that this may not have been intentional and that she may not have meant to do it. BoJo let her off, forcing thee guy who conducted the inquiry to have to resign. Yes Patel should never have asked her staff to do the job they are paid to do, how dare she.
Any Tory minister who asks Civil Servants to get on with what they are tasked to do ... will be bullies LOL
Civil Servants run the country, the government must obey them, or they will be accused of bullying.
You can judge for yourself by reading the report: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/937010/Findings_of_the_Independent_Adviser.pdf |
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Post by Fairsociety on Feb 2, 2023 19:48:25 GMT
Brilliant a conflict of interest, a Civil Servant investigating complaints on behalf of Civil Servants LOL
"Sir Alexander Claud Stuart Allan" KCB (born 9 February 1951) is a British civil servant who served as chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee and Head of Intelligence Assessment for Her Majesty's Government between 2007 and 2011.
He resigned as the Prime Minister's Independent advisor on ministerial standards in November 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 19:53:10 GMT
Y Because she actually was guilty of bullying staff. She was after all investigated and found to be guilty but Bozo refused to take action against her anyway, in response to which his ethics adviser resigned. Large sums were paid out as settlements for her victims. So the evidence for her bullying is clear. Yes any Tory minister who asks Civil Servants to do their jobs is nothing but a big fat bully LOL Well Patel was actually found to be a bully and large sums were paid out as settlements for her victims. It looks so far like Raab is also a bully but if so it will come out in the wash. What there is no evidence at all of is a concerted attempt by reds under the bed refusing to do there jobs and making false bullying accusations against anyone asking them to. What I find most incredible here is that you are making such claims in the face of all the evidence of the actual bullying found to have taken place, whilst labouring under the laughable illusion that this somehow makes you look intelligent. lol It actually makes you look like an idiot. |
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