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Post by Handyman on Jan 17, 2023 13:03:06 GMT
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Post by see2 on Jan 17, 2023 13:03:37 GMT
The Tide can lift and lower a fully loaded oil tanker weighing anything from 70,000 to 120,000 dead weight tons. Why isn't this free energy used for producing domestic energy.
Any Comments -- Answers?
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 17, 2023 15:23:54 GMT
The Tide can lift and lower a fully loaded oil tanker weighing anything from 70,000 to 120,000 dead weight tons. Why isn't this free energy used for producing domestic energy. Any Comments -- Answers? cost |
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Post by see2 on Jan 17, 2023 22:15:57 GMT
The Tide can lift and lower a fully loaded oil tanker weighing anything from 70,000 to 120,000 dead weight tons. Why isn't this free energy used for producing domestic energy. Any Comments -- Answers? cost No idea, but I find it difficult to believe that that source of free energy can't be tapped in some way. That's for innovators to get their head around. |
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 17, 2023 22:21:53 GMT
No idea, but I find it difficult to believe that that source of free energy can't be tapped in some way. That's for innovators to get their head around. of course you can tap that energy but the cost is prohibitive - hence it has never taken off. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2023 22:23:12 GMT
No idea, but I find it difficult to believe that that source of free energy can't be tapped in some way. That's for innovators to get their head around. I don't think cost was a question, See2, it was an answer. The Severn estuary has tides of about 11 metres, twice a day. An amazing amount of energy to be tapped. A barrage across the Severn would be immensely costly. However, once installed it would be much more reliable than wind or solar. |
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Post by see2 on Jan 18, 2023 12:47:13 GMT
No idea, but I find it difficult to believe that that source of free energy can't be tapped in some way. That's for innovators to get their head around. of course you can tap that energy but the cost is prohibitive - hence it has never taken off. I would like to know why any attempts to do it ended in failure. Are you aware of any attempts to do it? |
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Post by see2 on Jan 18, 2023 12:49:25 GMT
No idea, but I find it difficult to believe that that source of free energy can't be tapped in some way. That's for innovators to get their head around. I don't think cost was a question, See2, it was an answer. The Severn estuary has tides of about 11 metres, twice a day. An amazing amount of energy to be tapped. A barrage across the Severn would be immensely costly. However, once installed it would be much more reliable than wind or solar. I wasn't thinking Tidal Energy, I was thinking rise and fall, lifting and lowering energy. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 18, 2023 12:58:15 GMT
of course you can tap that energy but the cost is prohibitive - hence it has never taken off. I would like to know why any attempts to do it ended in failure. Are you aware of any attempts to do it? Many since I had my prostate removed.  |
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Post by see2 on Jan 18, 2023 16:27:17 GMT
I would like to know why any attempts to do it ended in failure. Are you aware of any attempts to do it? Many since I had my prostate removed. I'm in the position of a number of attempts down to its own volition but all end in failure.  |
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Post by jonksy on Jan 18, 2023 18:09:29 GMT
Sadiq Khan is accused of ignoring more than 5,000 votes from motoring groups opposing his controversial ULEZ expansion Mayor Sadiq Khan approved expansion to London’s Ultra-low emission zone He approved scheme despite 59.4 per cent of respondents opposing it 5,273 votes from motoring groups - equivalent to one in ten responses- ignored If included, the level of opposition would have risen to 62.4 per cent
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Post by Handyman on Jan 18, 2023 18:45:07 GMT
He has just been on London News , an awful lot of London residents are very angry with him, the Expansion of the ULEZ Zone , the rise in Council, the just under 6% rise in Tube Fares , putting up Bus Fares, then he blames the Government because they won't give him any money for TFL, the taxpayers have already bailed him out more than once
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Post by johnofgwent on Jan 22, 2023 10:54:18 GMT
No idea, but I find it difficult to believe that that source of free energy can't be tapped in some way. That's for innovators to get their head around. of course you can tap that energy but the cost is prohibitive - hence it has never taken off. Back in the seventies there was a call to build a barrage across the Severn to harness the second highest tidal range in the planet. Actually there have been many going back to the eighteen hundreds but the more recent ones have all had hydroelectric power bolt ins of some form I was then a brand new graduate looking for something to do with my time until the research grant came so I signed up with the dept of mechanical engineering and energy studies as a temporary research assistant. It isn’t (entirely) cost and in fact one of the more attractive schemes included allowing the retail sector to build it in its entirety and have a giant retail park and an airport as part of it. The scheme which received Bojo’s admiration long before he was even interested in being Mayor went south at warp speed when the conservationists decided it would cause the populations of wading birds that rely on the hundreds of square miles of sticky gooey stinking mud north of Aust Rock to become extinct. The cardigan wearing tree huggers are a bit funny that way. Almost everywhere that you could exploit tidal power the tide has created those ecosystems. A bunch of really rabid eco nutters jumped into bed with the cottage burners and started blathering about the possibility of making money from a ‘tidal lagoon’ in Swansea. This was then reduced to a smaller scheme when the utterly eye watering cost of THAT buffoonery was revealed, and the reduced scheme sort of ran out of puff when real scientists showed that water, given an option of running uphill or running round such a barrier, generally scours a way along a flatter path… |
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Post by Fairsociety on Jan 22, 2023 11:14:52 GMT
Sadiq Khan is accused of ignoring more than 5,000 votes from motoring groups opposing his controversial ULEZ expansion Mayor Sadiq Khan approved expansion to London’s Ultra-low emission zone He approved scheme despite 59.4 per cent of respondents opposing it 5,273 votes from motoring groups - equivalent to one in ten responses- ignored If included, the level of opposition would have risen to 62.4 per cent
It absolutely beggars belief why Khan is still mayor of London.
The only sign that he's alive is when he was chuckling away to his giant baby Trump balloon in nappy.
I bet he hasn't even got a pulse, a fuckin Zombie in charge of London FFS.
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Post by see2 on Jan 22, 2023 14:36:22 GMT
of course you can tap that energy but the cost is prohibitive - hence it has never taken off. Back in the seventies there was a call to build a barrage across the Severn to harness the second highest tidal range in the planet. Actually there have been many going back to the eighteen hundreds but the more recent ones have all had hydroelectric power bolt ins of some form I was then a brand new graduate looking for something to do with my time until the research grant came so I signed up with the dept of mechanical engineering and energy studies as a temporary research assistant. It isn’t (entirely) cost and in fact one of the more attractive schemes included allowing the retail sector to build it in its entirety and have a giant retail park and an airport as part of it. The scheme which received Bojo’s admiration long before he was even interested in being Mayor went south at warp speed when the conservationists decided it would cause the populations of wading birds that rely on the hundreds of square miles of sticky gooey stinking mud north of Aust Rock to become extinct. The cardigan wearing tree huggers are a bit funny that way. Almost everywhere that you could exploit tidal power the tide has created those ecosystems. A bunch of really rabid eco nutters jumped into bed with the cottage burners and started blathering about the possibility of making money from a ‘tidal lagoon’ in Swansea. This was then reduced to a smaller scheme when the utterly eye watering cost of THAT buffoonery was revealed, and the reduced scheme sort of ran out of puff when real scientists showed that water, given an option of running uphill or running round such a barrier, generally scours a way along a flatter path… Yes I recall much of that from years ago. But it is not what I had in mind. If I can give you a rough outline of my thoughts. Imagine a heavy completely sealed and empty container say, half as big as an oil tanker. Tethered and restricted in an area where it can safely rise and fall with the tide. It is this up and down movement with the tide that I see could be converted, either mechanically or by hydraulics into energy. |
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