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Post by bancroft on Jan 25, 2023 15:40:37 GMT
I think as soon as a virus fears dissipate jobs will too later this year as more people socialise and more are hired in leisure and entertainment.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 25, 2023 15:58:04 GMT
I don't think we need any new hospitals. We are using unintelligent managerial practices which are creating more work. The NHS' incompetence is making people iller. They are creating their own workload. They are run by union bosses as thick as mince. Not the point Boris the Big Liar said he would build 40 new hospitals. Not paint the walls or turn a linen cupboard into a new ward for exhausted nurses. BUILD 40 NEW HOSPITALS. And worry about staffing them tomorrow. Or maybe Friday. Rishi has to forget everything that liar said and did and plot an intelligent path to recover the economy. Johnson and what he said is not even worth the effort discussing. The only learning regarding that man is to learn why people made such a terrible mistake supporting him. It was not a Johnson problem, it was a selecting of a Johnson problem which was the real problem.
The same is true in politics as it is for recruiting NHS staff. Many are total shit and need removing. What I reckon is we should do an exchange for Chinese medics. They are busy now dealing with covid, but actually there is a surplus of graduates in China so we could give them one year contracts to fill the gaps and show how it should be done and then that gives us time to train more decent ones. If you look at international education standards , China is top of the world. It would help to reform the lazy culture within it. |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 25, 2023 16:25:37 GMT
Not the point Boris the Big Liar said he would build 40 new hospitals. Not paint the walls or turn a linen cupboard into a new ward for exhausted nurses. BUILD 40 NEW HOSPITALS. And worry about staffing them tomorrow. Or maybe Friday. Rishi has to forget everything that liar said and did and plot an intelligent path to recover the economy. Johnson and what he said is not even worth the effort discussing. The only learning regarding that man is to learn why people made such a terrible mistake supporting him. It was not a Johnson problem, it was a selecting of a Johnson problem which was the real problem.
The same is true in politics as it is for recruiting NHS staff. Many are total shit and need removing. What I reckon is we should do an exchange for Chinese medics. They are busy now dealing with covid, but actually there is a surplus of graduates in China so we could give them one year contracts to fill the gaps and show how it should be done and then that gives us time to train more decent ones. If you look at international education standards , China is top of the world. It would help to reform the lazy culture within it. I don't think those working 16 hour shifts would appreciate being called lazy. |
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Post by Toreador on Jan 25, 2023 16:33:12 GMT
I've been woken by the snoring coming from the night shift nurses.
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Post by oracle75 on Jan 26, 2023 8:29:09 GMT
Not the point Boris the Big Liar said he would build 40 new hospitals. Not paint the walls or turn a linen cupboard into a new ward for exhausted nurses. BUILD 40 NEW HOSPITALS. And worry about staffing them tomorrow. Or maybe Friday. Rishi has to forget everything that liar said and did and plot an intelligent path to recover the economy. Johnson and what he said is not even worth the effort discussing. The only learning regarding that man is to learn why people made such a terrible mistake supporting him. It was not a Johnson problem, it was a selecting of a Johnson problem which was the real problem.
The same is true in politics as it is for recruiting NHS staff. Many are total shit and need removing. What I reckon is we should do an exchange for Chinese medics. They are busy now dealing with covid, but actually there is a surplus of graduates in China so we could give them one year contracts to fill the gaps and show how it should be done and then that gives us time to train more decent ones. If you look at international education standards , China is top of the world. It would help to reform the lazy culture within it. I have a deep dislike of Chinese medicine. They still use elephant and rhino horn and remind me of the opening scene in Macbeth. No. What needs to happen is for the bloody greedy nepotistic stupid politicians to STOP TELLING LIES. And for the general public to ask themselves if the promises are even possible. Third world politicians promise jam tomorrow to uneducated voters and are voted in. But I am constantly astonished at the naivete of some British voters. It has taken less than six months for the sparkling new government full of honesty and integrity to unmask Boris' Bootlicker's ability to forget 5 million pounds worth of tax liability and he was a Chancellor!! It seemed to me he was on the make for years, salivating over Boris and Brexit on morning news even when he said the opposite the previous week. This country has no more control over its future than it had before. The only added control is for government and they lie and cheat and rip off hard working public workers. The UK is one of the highest taxed countries in the West and offers less and less to the public who pay those taxes. Now some restraints imposed by the EU don't count, don't expect the government to turn any of that freedom in the direction of the public. It means they can lie and cheat and steal without being caught. Anyway. I understand we can get rid of politicians we don't like whenever we want. There seem to be enough masochists in the UK who like being treated like idiots. I am sincerely fed up with this country and its crappy excuses for failure. If it doesn't face up to its weakness and demand honest assessment and creative people to deal with them, the young people will leave. And I wouldn't blame them. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 26, 2023 9:51:43 GMT
Rishi has to forget everything that liar said and did and plot an intelligent path to recover the economy. Johnson and what he said is not even worth the effort discussing. The only learning regarding that man is to learn why people made such a terrible mistake supporting him. It was not a Johnson problem, it was a selecting of a Johnson problem which was the real problem.
The same is true in politics as it is for recruiting NHS staff. Many are total shit and need removing. What I reckon is we should do an exchange for Chinese medics. They are busy now dealing with covid, but actually there is a surplus of graduates in China so we could give them one year contracts to fill the gaps and show how it should be done and then that gives us time to train more decent ones. If you look at international education standards , China is top of the world. It would help to reform the lazy culture within it. I am sincerely fed up with this country and its crappy excuses for failure. If it doesn't face up to its weakness and demand honest assessment and creative people to deal with them, the young people will leave. And I wouldn't blame them. Well instead of seeking to blame people and point fingers and have fights, actually make some policy proposals that are feasible and can be funded in the long term (don't suggest rejoining the EU, ain't gonna happen).
For recruiting NHS staff, its absolutely vital that we TRAIN people here.
So, make medical subjects exempt from tuition fees.
Next NHS Doctors & Nurses, don't generate tax anyway they're paid from taxation.
So completely exempt all NHS workers including the highest paid Doctors from repaying income tax.
Pay rise right there.
Next, the military need next gen tanks, we destroyed our two remaining tank factories when Labour were last in.
Commission Vauxhall (the company which once made the Churchill Tank), and BAE Systems to work together constructing a new generation of tanks. Use state aid to build the factory.
Build new armaments factories so we have a domestic source of sabot rounds and HESH rounds.
Build new car factories for the domestic market and favour those over imports.
Build ten new nuclear power stations as well as wave power and offshore wind to provide more than 10 times the electricity we currently generate to bring down bills.
Build carbon capture facilities capable of producing fuel grade CO2.
Build hydrogen electrolysis plants.
Build fuel synthesis plants supplied by the above to produce methanol and get petrol cars running on it.
Export the excess.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2023 10:43:08 GMT
There is no "hard evidence" that Brexit has had a negative impact on GDP, trade, investment, inflation and employment. This is project fear MK 3.0 straight out of the remainers propaganda play book. www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/what-impact-is-brexit-having-on-the-uk-economy/Secondly, the propaganda is admitted here by Savanta survey bean-counter when he expresses: “It’s hard to imagine being in the EU would solve any of the country’s current economic issues,” he said., “ but perceptions matter.” www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-referendum-rejoin-eu-b2250813.htmlThe UK was in a mess when it was a member of the EU. No single market for financial services, low growth, low productivity, cheap labour, high costs etc. The propagandists can't erase history, and still try and lie that rejoining the EU would solve all these alleged problems they keep looking for. It's one big curated lie that remainers continuously purport - tell it enough - in the hope that it is believed to be true. "Perceptions matter". Businesses, big and small, corporate and family-owned have been saying it; authoritative bodies say it; their studies show it; the government doesn't and can't deny it yet you still demand hard evidence that Brexit has had a negative impact on the economy. That's just an exercise in self-justification and self-delusion, isn't it? So, do Brexit reinforcers have any evidence -- direct, indirect, hard, circumstantial, hearsay, whatever -- to show that Brexit has NOT had a negative impact on the UK economy and businesses? No, they don't. Objectively, the only conclusion you can draw from the fact that the UK is the only G7 country whose economy has failed to reach pre-Covid levels is that Brexit has damaged and continue to damage the UK economy. I mean, if other G7 countries could get back there quickly, why couldn't the UK? Because the UK is the only economy in the G7 that to has had to and continue to deal with Brexit, that's why. Some might argue that this is circumstantial but objectively, it is just as compelling as direct evidence. BTW, propaganda is this: "The UK was in a mess when it was a member of the EU." |
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Post by buccaneer on Jan 26, 2023 10:58:31 GMT
There is no "hard evidence" that Brexit has had a negative impact on GDP, trade, investment, inflation and employment. This is project fear MK 3.0 straight out of the remainers propaganda play book. www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/what-impact-is-brexit-having-on-the-uk-economy/Secondly, the propaganda is admitted here by Savanta survey bean-counter when he expresses: “It’s hard to imagine being in the EU would solve any of the country’s current economic issues,” he said., “ but perceptions matter.” www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-poll-referendum-rejoin-eu-b2250813.htmlThe UK was in a mess when it was a member of the EU. No single market for financial services, low growth, low productivity, cheap labour, high costs etc. The propagandists can't erase history, and still try and lie that rejoining the EU would solve all these alleged problems they keep looking for. It's one big curated lie that remainers continuously purport - tell it enough - in the hope that it is believed to be true. "Perceptions matter". No. I just want hard evidence that Brexit has caused all these problems - it should be easy for you to demonstrate if it is true. But you can't. I provided a link that shows your curated narrative is tenuous at best - I suggest you actually read it. No. That isn't objective at all. That is someone with an agenda claiming something without any proof and demanding it true. It's a fact. The UK has had low productivity and growth when it was in the Single Market - you cannot curate any other narrative re. this because it would be absolute BS. You've provided no evidence whatsoever that Brexit is the cause of inflation (which almost every other nation in the world is dealing with especially all Western nations), negative impact on GDP, or investment otherwise you'd be demonstrating it with substance rather than hot air. |
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Post by Vinny on Jan 26, 2023 11:36:51 GMT
The federalists want any excuse to try and drag Great Britain back into their empire building project.
They have no policy ideas of their own, no independent thought.
Sad really. But until someone other than the Tories has ideas for domestic policies, they will continue to reside in the political wilderness.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2023 13:02:10 GMT
No. I just want hard evidence that Brexit has caused all these problems - it should be easy for you to demonstrate if it is true. But you can't. I provided a link that shows your curated narrative is tenuous at best - I suggest you actually read it. No. That isn't objective at all. That is someone with an agenda claiming something without any proof and demanding it true. It's a fact. The UK has had low productivity and growth when it was in the Single Market - you cannot curate any other narrative re. this because it would be absolute BS. You've provided no evidence whatsoever that Brexit is the cause of inflation (which almost every other nation in the world is dealing with especially all Western nations), negative impact on GDP, or investment otherwise you'd be demonstrating it with substance rather than hot air. I have given you indisputable facts: (1) The UK is the only economy in the G7 that has failed to return to pre-pandemic levels. (2) The UK is the only country that has to deal with Brexit. Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the US all have managed to return to pre-pandemic levels and they have one common denominator: All of them do not have the Brexit monkey on their backs. The UK is the only one with the Brexit monkey on its back. With such relevant and related facts, you don't need an Einstein to tell you that Brexit has had and continue to have a negative impact on the UK economy. Your link even confirms that it has had a negative impact. Your link just attempts to diminish and belittle that impact. Just like what you're doing here. Whether my narrative is curated or not is not the challenge. Your challenge is to provide hard evidence that Brexit has NOT had a negative impact on the UK economy and businesses since you're so hung on up hard evidence. So, where is your hard evidence? Again: (a) 6 of the 7 G7 countries managed to get back to pre-pandemic levels . That is an objective truth. (b) Only the UK has failed to get back to pre-pandemic level. That is another objective truth. (c) Only the UK has to drag extra baggage called Brexit. Another objective truth. So, tell me; what other relevant conclusion can you draw from such truths except for that Brexit has had and continue to have negative effect on the UK economy? Nothing else. Is there? No, it isn't a fact that "the UK has had low productive and grown when it was in the Single Market." Here, just to rectify your misstatement and false information: From the NIESR: "The United Kingdom’s economy has been plagued by anaemic productivity growth since the 2008-09 global financial crisis. Between 1974 and 2008, the UK’s productivity grew at an average rate of 2.3% a year, a much higher rate than the growth rate between 2008 and 2020 at around 0.5%."
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 26, 2023 13:19:40 GMT
Rishi has to forget everything that liar said and did and plot an intelligent path to recover the economy. Johnson and what he said is not even worth the effort discussing. The only learning regarding that man is to learn why people made such a terrible mistake supporting him. It was not a Johnson problem, it was a selecting of a Johnson problem which was the real problem.
The same is true in politics as it is for recruiting NHS staff. Many are total shit and need removing. What I reckon is we should do an exchange for Chinese medics. They are busy now dealing with covid, but actually there is a surplus of graduates in China so we could give them one year contracts to fill the gaps and show how it should be done and then that gives us time to train more decent ones. If you look at international education standards , China is top of the world. It would help to reform the lazy culture within it. I have a deep dislike of Chinese medicine. They still use elephant and rhino horn and remind me of the opening scene in Macbeth. No. What needs to happen is for the bloody greedy nepotistic stupid politicians to STOP TELLING LIES. And for the general public to ask themselves if the promises are even possible. Third world politicians promise jam tomorrow to uneducated voters and are voted in. But I am constantly astonished at the naivete of some British voters. It has taken less than six months for the sparkling new government full of honesty and integrity to unmask Boris' Bootlicker's ability to forget 5 million pounds worth of tax liability and he was a Chancellor!! It seemed to me he was on the make for years, salivating over Boris and Brexit on morning news even when he said the opposite the previous week. This country has no more control over its future than it had before. The only added control is for government and they lie and cheat and rip off hard working public workers. The UK is one of the highest taxed countries in the West and offers less and less to the public who pay those taxes. Now some restraints imposed by the EU don't count, don't expect the government to turn any of that freedom in the direction of the public. It means they can lie and cheat and steal without being caught. Anyway. I understand we can get rid of politicians we don't like whenever we want. There seem to be enough masochists in the UK who like being treated like idiots. I am sincerely fed up with this country and its crappy excuses for failure. If it doesn't face up to its weakness and demand honest assessment and creative people to deal with them, the young people will leave. And I wouldn't blame them. We agree on all of that, but it's what to do now that counts.
By the the way, you have not seen horrendous reports of millions of dead Chinese after opening up with covid. The bottom line is their medical service is shit hot and efficient. What we want is people to set the example of what good work is all about. It's intelligently planned.
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Post by Toreador on Jan 26, 2023 15:21:05 GMT
I have given you indisputable facts: (1) The UK is the only economy in the G7 that has failed to return to pre-pandemic levels. (2) The UK is the only country that has to deal with Brexit. Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the US all have managed to return to pre-pandemic levels and they have one common denominator: All of them do not have the Brexit monkey on their backs. The UK is the only one with the Brexit monkey on its back. With such relevant and related facts, you don't need an Einstein to tell you that Brexit has had and continue to have a negative impact on the UK economy. Your link even confirms that it has had a negative impact. Your link just attempts to diminish and belittle that impact. Just like what you're doing here. Whether my narrative is curated or not is not the challenge. Your challenge is to provide hard evidence that Brexit has NOT had a negative impact on the UK economy and businesses since you're so hung on up hard evidence. So, where is your hard evidence? Again: (a) 6 of the 7 G7 countries managed to get back to pre-pandemic levels . That is an objective truth. (b) Only the UK has failed to get back to pre-pandemic level. That is another objective truth. (c) Only the UK has to drag extra baggage called Brexit. Another objective truth. So, tell me; what other relevant conclusion can you draw from such truths except for that Brexit has had and continue to have negative effect on the UK economy? Nothing else. Is there? No, it isn't a fact that "the UK has had low productive and grown when it was in the Single Market." Here, just to rectify your misstatement and false information: From the NIESR: "The United Kingdom’s economy has been plagued by anaemic productivity growth since the 2008-09 global financial crisis. Between 1974 and 2008, the UK’s productivity grew at an average rate of 2.3% a year, a much higher rate than the growth rate between 2008 and 2020 at around 0.5%."
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 26, 2023 15:35:47 GMT
I have given you indisputable facts: (1) The UK is the only economy in the G7 that has failed to return to pre-pandemic levels. (2) The UK is the only country that has to deal with Brexit. Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the US all have managed to return to pre-pandemic levels and they have one common denominator: All of them do not have the Brexit monkey on their backs. The UK is the only one with the Brexit monkey on its back. With such relevant and related facts, you don't need an Einstein to tell you that Brexit has had and continue to have a negative impact on the UK economy. Your link even confirms that it has had a negative impact. Your link just attempts to diminish and belittle that impact. Just like what you're doing here. Whether my narrative is curated or not is not the challenge. Your challenge is to provide hard evidence that Brexit has NOT had a negative impact on the UK economy and businesses since you're so hung on up hard evidence. So, where is your hard evidence? Again: (a) 6 of the 7 G7 countries managed to get back to pre-pandemic levels . That is an objective truth. (b) Only the UK has failed to get back to pre-pandemic level. That is another objective truth. (c) Only the UK has to drag extra baggage called Brexit. Another objective truth. So, tell me; what other relevant conclusion can you draw from such truths except for that Brexit has had and continue to have negative effect on the UK economy? Nothing else. Is there? No, it isn't a fact that "the UK has had low productive and grown when it was in the Single Market." Here, just to rectify your misstatement and false information: From the NIESR: "The United Kingdom’s economy has been plagued by anaemic productivity growth since the 2008-09 global financial crisis. Between 1974 and 2008, the UK’s productivity grew at an average rate of 2.3% a year, a much higher rate than the growth rate between 2008 and 2020 at around 0.5%."
We left, you are still whinging. Whinging's good for the soul, Sal. Besides ... it's working.  |
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Post by Bentley on Jan 26, 2023 16:08:15 GMT
We left, you are still whinging. Whinging's good for the soul, Sal. Besides ... it's working. Oh goody. When are we rejoining?😁 |
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Post by Einhorn on Jan 26, 2023 17:12:45 GMT
Whinging's good for the soul, Sal. Besides ... it's working. Oh goody. When are we rejoining?😁 Sorry to disappoint, but the EU isn't up for that. Customs union and single market membership is very much on the cards, though. Never underestimate the power of a good moan, Benny. Farage had to whinge for decades to get his way - we expect to get our way in fraction of that time. With up to 65% now of the opinion that Brexit hasn't delivered, we're off to a good start. |
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