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Post by oracle75 on Feb 2, 2023 11:04:41 GMT
Re the spectacular vaccine rollout, I can honestly say that no other European country made more of a balls up of it than the UK. Sending infected people back to care homes. Not insisting on nurses etc travelling between nursing homes wearing masks because there weren't enough.
Nor did any other country have a higher death toll in the end, and nor did any country waste the billions of whatever currency making friends rich with my tax money.
The whole UK handling of Covid was a disgrace.
I don't care who injected the first vaccine into the first arm. I do care that the shiny new 80 seat Tory majority voted in on the back of Brexit lies couldn't run a coffee shop let alone a national response to a pandemic.
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Post by bancroft on Feb 2, 2023 11:06:33 GMT
Got my car serviced yesterday and talked to the owner and asked how business was.
A. Ok yet parts are a problem.
Q. Is this Brexit related.
A. No, nothing to do with Brexit its COV-ID in places like Czech is slowing supply.
Q. COV-ID, still COV-ID?
A. Yes in some places in Eastern Europe.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 11:32:42 GMT
Please.  It's you who can never back up your claim that Brexit has not had any negative effects on the economy. Even the article you provided effectively contradicts you and your empty-headed claim. Now look at you -- gasping for air!  You made the claim that Brexit has had a negative effect on the economy. You cannot back that up and have been asked on numerous occasions. You've failed. The article I linked doesn't contradicted my claim. It contradicts your opinion as that is all you have brought to this debate. Stop embarrassing yourself Gnome. I gave you corroborations for the indisputable fact that Brexit has had and continue to have a negative effect on the UK economy. You have not been able to disprove it. You have not been able to question it, even. That's because the only way you can disprove it is by direct, corroborated contradiction. But to your misfortune, there is absolutely nothing that corroborates your own little, self-deluded, argument that Brexit has not had a negative effect on the UK economy. That's why when I ask you for evidence, you panic and start running around in a circle. That article by your fellow Brexit apologists contradicts you. It doesn't deny and so effectively confirms that Brexit has had negative effects on the economy. The only thing that that article does is try to dismiss and minimise such effects as immaterial -- the same, old, overused, deluded and ineffective Brexiteer tactic of diminishing the damage caused by Brexit. Stop gas lighting people. |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 2, 2023 12:02:54 GMT
Got my car serviced yesterday and talked to the owner and asked how business was. A. Ok yet parts are a problem. Q. Is this Brexit related. A. No, nothing to do with Brexit its COV-ID in places like Czech is slowing supply. Q. COV-ID, still COV-ID? A. Yes in some places in Eastern Europe. Had to get parts for something from South America. Massive wait, nothing to do with Brexit. About six months. It's just the way some countries are. |
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Post by bancroft on Feb 2, 2023 12:08:14 GMT
Got my car serviced yesterday and talked to the owner and asked how business was. A. Ok yet parts are a problem. Q. Is this Brexit related. A. No, nothing to do with Brexit its COV-ID in places like Czech is slowing supply. Q. COV-ID, still COV-ID? A. Yes in some places in Eastern Europe. Had to get parts for something from South America. Massive wait, nothing to do with Brexit. About six months. It's just the way some countries are. What vehicle is that for? |
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Post by Pacifico on Feb 2, 2023 12:13:24 GMT
A Brexit benefit? Since 2019, food prices are up 19.9 per cent in the UK but 21.1 per cent in the eurozone and 24.1 per cent across the whole of the EU bloc. Despite this, food and non-alcoholic drink inflation rose by 16.5% in the 12 months to November 2022, the highest increase since September 1977 (17.6%), according to data from the ONS Consumer Price Inflation bulletin.Dec 22, 2022 www.ons.gov.uk › The inflation rate for food and non-alcoholic beverages in the European Union reached 17.8 percent in December 2022. During this month, the inflation rate for the EU as a whole was 10.4 percent, one of the highest rates of inflation reported in this period.6 days ago www.statista.com › statistics EU food inflation rate 2022 - Statista Best do some research before you pass on misinformation. Christ kim =- at least try and understand what you are responding to.. "Since 2019, food prices are..." |
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Post by Vinny on Feb 2, 2023 12:38:01 GMT
Had to get parts for something from South America. Massive wait, nothing to do with Brexit. About six months. It's just the way some countries are. What vehicle is that for? Something agricultural. |
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Post by buccaneer on Feb 2, 2023 12:55:02 GMT
You made the claim that Brexit has had a negative effect on the economy. You cannot back that up and have been asked on numerous occasions. You've failed. The article I linked doesn't contradicted my claim. It contradicts your opinion as that is all you have brought to this debate. Stop embarrassing yourself Gnome. I gave you corroborations for the indisputable fact that Brexit has had and continue to have a negative effect on the UK economy. You have not been able to disprove it. You have not been able to question it, even. That's because the only way you can disprove it is by direct, corroborated contradiction. But to your misfortune, there is absolutely nothing that corroborates your own little, self-deluded, argument that Brexit has not had a negative effect on the UK economy. That's why when I ask you for evidence, you panic and start running around in a circle. That article by your fellow Brexit apologists contradicts you. It doesn't deny and so effectively confirms that Brexit has had negative effects on the economy. The only thing that that article does is try to dismiss and minimise such effects as immaterial -- the same, old, overused, deluded and ineffective Brexiteer tactic of diminishing the damage caused by Brexit. Stop gas lighting people. Lol Corroborate? What your rudimental thinking that correlation equals causation. You have no credit left genome. You failed to provide evidence to your claims. You shout from the mouth daily about Brexit and start cringey threads like 'Brexit caused Russia to invade Ukraine'. You even lie about the evidence I give you that's how fanatically bonkers your are. Though you can't substantiate your correlation = causation claims. You simply are an embarrassment. |
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Post by jonksy on Feb 2, 2023 13:07:19 GMT
Got my car serviced yesterday and talked to the owner and asked how business was. A. Ok yet parts are a problem. Q. Is this Brexit related. A. No, nothing to do with Brexit its COV-ID in places like Czech is slowing supply. Q. COV-ID, still COV-ID? A. Yes in some places in Eastern Europe. Had to get parts for something from South America. Massive wait, nothing to do with Brexit. About six months. It's just the way some countries are. And worth the wait Vinny……Anything made in the EUSSR doesn’t ’s hold a candle to anything made in the Americas.. |
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Post by Toreador on Feb 2, 2023 13:07:23 GMT
FFS what is it with you remainiacs? If you want to be governed by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats who issue diktats from behind closed doors in a foreign country, why the hell are you still in the sovereign and independent UK? Stop bitching about democracy and let your feet do the talking. Another piece of information your lying leaving politicians never told you. Every piece of proposed EU legislation was votes on three times.
Once by the elected EU Parliament.
Once by the elected Council.
And once by every elected national parliament/governing body before it is passed into legislation.And you seem to forget that the commission, the unelected beaurocrats, cannot vote on proposed legislation. Someone really sold you a pack of lies didn't they. And you never checked them out and they still live in your head. Unfortunately I would spend more time abroad but people like you voted to restrict my time to six months a year in three month chunks. Nor can I bring over a long list of food and drink and spend time and money shuffling between homes when I used to travel freely with merely a passport for ID. So can you now tell me what benefits your newfound sovereignty has given us? All pissing in the same pot. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2023 13:30:48 GMT
I gave you corroborations for the indisputable fact that Brexit has had and continue to have a negative effect on the UK economy. You have not been able to disprove it. You have not been able to question it, even. That's because the only way you can disprove it is by direct, corroborated contradiction. But to your misfortune, there is absolutely nothing that corroborates your own little, self-deluded, argument that Brexit has not had a negative effect on the UK economy. That's why when I ask you for evidence, you panic and start running around in a circle. That article by your fellow Brexit apologists contradicts you. It doesn't deny and so effectively confirms that Brexit has had negative effects on the economy. The only thing that that article does is try to dismiss and minimise such effects as immaterial -- the same, old, overused, deluded and ineffective Brexiteer tactic of diminishing the damage caused by Brexit. Stop gas lighting people. Lol Corroborate? What your rudimental thinking that correlation equals causation. You have no credit left genome. You failed to provide evidence to your claims. You shout from the mouth daily about Brexit and start cringey threads like 'Brexit caused Russia to invade Ukraine'. You even lie about the evidence I give you that's how fanatically bonkers your are. Though you can't substantiate your correlation = causation claims. You simply are an embarrassment. Ufftt, You're back to this "correlation" and "causation" thing again. So high school! You should really stop referring to your Introduction to Statistics 101 notes already. You won't get anywhere with them. Look at you, running around in a circle. So. Now. Where is your evidence that Brexit has not had a negative effect on the British economy? Where? |
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Post by Red Rackham on Feb 2, 2023 17:48:20 GMT
Another piece of information your lying leaving politicians never told you. Every piece of proposed EU legislation was votes on three times. Once by the elected EU Parliament. Once by the elected Council. And once by every elected national parliament/governing body before it is passed into legislation. And you seem to forget that the commission, the unelected beaurocrats, cannot vote on proposed legislation. Someone really sold you a pack of lies didn't they. And you never checked them out and they still live in your head. Unfortunately I would spend more time abroad but people like you voted to restrict my time to six months a year in three month chunks. Nor can I bring over a long list of food and drink and spend time and money shuffling between homes when I used to travel freely with merely a passport for ID. So can you now tell me what benefits your newfound sovereignty has given us? The reason the unelected and all powerful commission don't vote on proposed legislation is because they proposed it ffs. The unelected commission propose new EU legislation. How many fuckin times must it be explained to you brainwashed remainiacs how the EU works? The 'Unelected' European Commission is responsible for planning, preparing and proposing new European legislation.
commission.europa.eu/law/law-making-process/planning-and-proposing-law_en#:~:text=The%20European%20Commission%20is%20responsible,its%20citizens%20as%20a%20whole. |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 2, 2023 22:27:10 GMT
Another piece of information your lying leaving politicians never told you. Every piece of proposed EU legislation was votes on three times. Once by the elected EU Parliament. Once by the elected Council. And once by every elected national parliament/governing body before it is passed into legislation. And you seem to forget that the commission, the unelected beaurocrats, cannot vote on proposed legislation. Someone really sold you a pack of lies didn't they. And you never checked them out and they still live in your head. Unfortunately I would spend more time abroad but people like you voted to restrict my time to six months a year in three month chunks. Nor can I bring over a long list of food and drink and spend time and money shuffling between homes when I used to travel freely with merely a passport for ID. So can you now tell me what benefits your newfound sovereignty has given us? The reason the unelected and all powerful commission don't vote on proposed legislation is because they proposed it ffs. The unelected commission propose new EU legislation. How many fuckin times must it be explained to you brainwashed remainiacs how the EU works? The 'Unelected' European Commission is responsible for planning, preparing and proposing new European legislation.
commission.europa.eu/law/law-making-process/planning-and-proposing-law_en#:~:text=The%20European%20Commission%20is%20responsible,its%20citizens%20as%20a%20whole. You seem to have a problem with proposing and passing. The commission proposed what the council and Parliament agree every five years to concentrate on. It is called a specific agenda. THE UK might call it a manifesto. It can sit and scribble laws till midnight, 24/7. If the ELECTED parts of the EU and the members don't pass it, it disappears. How on God's earth does that equate to power?  |
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Post by oracle75 on Feb 2, 2023 22:52:25 GMT
Despite this, food and non-alcoholic drink inflation rose by 16.5% in the 12 months to November 2022, the highest increase since September 1977 (17.6%), according to data from the ONS Consumer Price Inflation bulletin.Dec 22, 2022 www.ons.gov.uk › The inflation rate for food and non-alcoholic beverages in the European Union reached 17.8 percent in December 2022. During this month, the inflation rate for the EU as a whole was 10.4 percent, one of the highest rates of inflation reported in this period.6 days ago www.statista.com › statistics EU food inflation rate 2022 - Statista Best do some research before you pass on misinformation. Christ kim =- at least try and understand what you are responding to.. "Since 2019, food prices are..."AFAIK 2022 is since 2019. And while we are in contact I am FED UP with being associated with someone else. There were over 30 million people who voted to remain and many were deeply embedded in trading with or working for the EU.. Many had shares in companies which depended on EU trade and I lost such a business. Thank god I don't have to rely on the UK state pension. My private pension was contracted before Brexit put companies out of business or cost them huge sums of money to open new offices and branches under new legislation. I happen to have worked in Strasbourg for a translation company and invested in a property there. I was looking forward to retiring while allowing my family to live in my UK house. I cant do that anymore. So my family is now tangled in the net of UK economic decline and rising interest rates. You and your beloved sovereignty has caused my family huge financial and personal hardships. For what? Pennies of VAT on tampons FFS? Genuine information about the EU is readily available to anyone who wants to know the truth From what I read here I get ancient lies repeated, twisted and defended. You can't even point to any real benefits your cause has given you. A fools'cannon fodder who are programmed to follow signs and flags. I seriously think this forum must be the last in internet discussion which is still debating the referendum. And still living in some other time and space. So so sad. There is a section in here called World Affairs (sic) and when I suggest discussing the latest USA police killing, the first reply I get is "Why should we care about what happens in the USA "? Other than a few, this forum is tiny, isolated, inward looking, very limited and at times completely bonkers. A kind of pub goers' regular meet. Pathetic. |
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Post by Montegriffo on Feb 3, 2023 0:46:09 GMT
The UK voted to leave the EUSSR six and a half years ago 52 to 48 per cent yet the UK's decision continues to divide the nation. Several challenges still need to be overcome including the Northern Ireland Protocol and a US trade deal. Tory MP and Eurosceptic Sir Bill Cash said: "People think things haven't happened, but they certainly have constitutionally and legislatively." He added: "These massive changes do take time - and that's without Covid, the war in Ukraine and an energy and cost of living crisis to contend with." However, Guy Hands, leading investor and founder and chairman of Terra Firma Capital Partners, claimed Brexit has been a "complete disaster" and a "bunch of total lies" that has harmed large parts of the economy. He continued: "The reality is it's been a lose-lose situation for us and Europe."
www.msn.com/en-gb/money/other/brexit-hailed-as-enormous-success-three-years-on-your-verdict/ar-AA16ZGMJ?cvid=d3ccfd15b5fe4f09b2b9e21adb321f44&ocid=winp2fptaskbarhoverSomeone needs to tell the proud nationalist on the left that he is holding his Union Flag upside down. If he was a true patriot he would know that. |
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It's you who can never back up your claim that Brexit has not had any negative effects on the economy. Even the article you provided effectively contradicts you and your empty-headed claim. Now look at you -- gasping for air! 
