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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2023 9:11:10 GMT
What's drainage got to do with trunking? If it were that easy they would just wip out one of these..
Well done, you got something right, clever boy. Yes that is the tool you use to cut a channel, next you put the trunking in the channel you cut. Ok then once you cut across a pavement using the required amount of safety sheathing and underground protection which would be a total knightmare how would you for termination for your snake u der ground.. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 7, 2023 9:18:17 GMT
I didn't miss that point, I created a whole new thread on it. But that was not your question. You did not ask how the country would charge all the cars, you asked how a terrace house would charge their car and gave their average usage as a reason for the question. A kw is a measure of energy, a kwh is a measure of energy usage. How much energy someone uses has no effect on how much is available. Frankly I know you know better so I'm doubly disgusted that you so wanted to be in with the crowd that you would say such things. I'm afraid you are still wrong about the units. Perhaps I should tell you that my profession is electrical engineering. Specifically in the field of power electronics. You've told me your profession atleast three times. That's why I call you a liar rather than mistaken, that's why I say you have no morals because you would rather agree with your buddy on here than tell the truth, that's why you wont answer whether a 1kw cable would fit though the floor trunking I showed. You are shameless and so to be ignored. As a man who is prepared to lie and obfuscate just to win cannot ever be trusted not to lie again. One last attempt at getting you to be honest. Questions 1, How many kwh's can a terrace house with a 100amp supply at 230volts provide in a day (24 hours) 2, How many kwh's does an average family use in a day? 3, How many kwh's does that leave spare to charge a car battery? |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 7, 2023 11:05:17 GMT
TBH this stuff would do in 90% of cases. You can drive over it.  Is it electrically insulating? If so, how do you put the cables into to your terraced house? Who pays for it? Lots of answers needed. |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 7, 2023 11:45:46 GMT
I'm afraid you are still wrong about the units. Perhaps I should tell you that my profession is electrical engineering. Specifically in the field of power electronics. You've told me your profession atleast three times. That's why I call you a liar rather than mistaken, that's why I say you have no morals because you would rather agree with your buddy on here than tell the truth, that's why you wont answer whether a 1kw cable would fit though the floor trunking I showed. You are shameless and so to be ignored. As a man who is prepared to lie and obfuscate just to win cannot ever be trusted not to lie again. You are totally wrong about that and totally offensive.  |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2023 12:53:24 GMT
TBH this stuff would do in 90% of cases. You can drive over it. Is it electrically insulating? If so, how do you put the cables into to your terraced house? Who pays for it? Lots of answers needed. Who are going to install these snakes under the pavement? Down here they have to be below the ground about 18 inches bedded on a bed of shingle no less than 6 inches plus another 3 inches of soft sand. Then the have to be covered with pea grit to a minimum of 5 inches plus brick tiles which require to be minium of 2 inches in thikness. So that means it would require a trench at least 3 foot deep and then the underlay plus tarmacadom...And how are these snakes going to be terminated at the end of the cable on the pavements? |
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Post by patman post on Mar 7, 2023 13:27:03 GMT
TBH this stuff would do in 90% of cases. You can drive over it. Is it electrically insulating? If so, how do you put the cables into to your terraced house? Who pays for it? Lots of answers needed. You’re complicating the issue. The charging cable crossing the pavement would — as now when connecting to street charging points — be put away when charging is complete. That’s the reason for “slot channelling”. Nothing electrical is permanently left in the street, and the cable is no more vulnerable or pose any more danger than when connected to conventional street charging points. The vehicle user and/or householder would pay, as now, for the installation of the charger on their premises. They would also be charged for the cross-pavement slot channeling… |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 7, 2023 14:00:21 GMT
Is it electrically insulating? If so, how do you put the cables into to your terraced house? Who pays for it? Lots of answers needed. You’re complicating the issue. The charging cable crossing the pavement would — as now when connecting to street charging points — be put away when charging is complete. That’s the reason for “slot channelling”. Nothing electrical is permanently left in the street, and the cable is no more vulnerable or pose any more danger than when connected to conventional street charging points. The vehicle user and/or householder would pay, as now, for the installation of the charger on their premises. They would also be charged for the cross-pavement slot channeling… The discussion was about terrace houses. |
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Post by patman post on Mar 7, 2023 14:15:32 GMT
Aren’t many (if not most) terrace houses built along streets that have walkways/pavements? In London, many also have half a metre or so of front garden. Our 1840 terrace house has just under two metres, in which we have a gas meter, water stopcock, outdoor power point, hose connection point, and a bin — plenty of room to install a charge point…
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 7, 2023 14:58:11 GMT
Aren’t many (if not most) terrace houses built along streets that have walkways/pavements? In London, many also have half a metre or so of front garden. Our 1840 terrace house has just under two metres, in which we have a gas meter, water stopcock, outdoor power point, hose connection point, and a bin — plenty of room to install a charge point… Yes, they do. But how do you connect an EV from that from that garden? |
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Post by patman post on Mar 7, 2023 15:15:18 GMT
Aren’t many (if not most) terrace houses built along streets that have walkways/pavements? In London, many also have half a metre or so of front garden. Our 1840 terrace house has just under two metres, in which we have a gas meter, water stopcock, outdoor power point, hose connection point, and a bin — plenty of room to install a charge point… Yes, they do. But how do you connect an EV from that from that garden? At the moment people lay the cable under rubber safety trunking across the pavement from their house to the vehicle.
With slot trunking, the cable is laid in the slot and is then below the pavement surface.
This (and the rubber safety trunking) appears to be less of a hazard than five or more metres of cable spiraling along the street connecting an EV to a lamp post while it's charging...
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 7, 2023 15:30:36 GMT
Yes, they do. But how do you connect an EV from that from that garden? At the moment people lay the cable under rubber safety trunking across the pavement from their house to the vehicle.
With slot trunking, the cable is laid in the slot and is then below the pavement surface.
This (and the rubber safety trunking) appears to be less of a hazard than five or more metres of cable spiraling along the street connecting an EV to a lamp post while it's charging...
I have a handsome and rather smart dog. We walk quite a lot on pavements. This morning we went to the grocery store. It is about an hour there and back. On that trip there was no cable trunking on any street and no trunking under the pavement. Do you have a picture of where you have seen those? |
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Post by patman post on Mar 7, 2023 16:41:18 GMT
At the moment people lay the cable under rubber safety trunking across the pavement from their house to the vehicle.
With slot trunking, the cable is laid in the slot and is then below the pavement surface.
This (and the rubber safety trunking) appears to be less of a hazard than five or more metres of cable spiraling along the street connecting an EV to a lamp post while it's charging...
I have a handsome and rather smart dog. We walk quite a lot on pavements. This morning we went to the grocery store. It is about an hour there and back. On that trip there was no cable trunking on any street and no trunking under the pavement. Do you have a picture of where you have seen those? I posted this earlier: evolutionsolutions.co.uk/cable-gully-ev-solution/I admitted that I hadn’t got pics of Victorian cast iron pavement rainwater channels |
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Post by besoeker3 on Mar 7, 2023 16:56:35 GMT
I have a handsome and rather smart dog. We walk quite a lot on pavements. This morning we went to the grocery store. It is about an hour there and back. On that trip there was no cable trunking on any street and no trunking under the pavement. Do you have a picture of where you have seen those? I posted this earlier: evolutionsolutions.co.uk/cable-gully-ev-solution/I admitted that I hadn’t got pics of Victorian cast iron pavement rainwater channels I appreciate your honesty. |
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Post by jonksy on Mar 7, 2023 17:02:06 GMT
Is it electrically insulating? If so, how do you put the cables into to your terraced house? Who pays for it? Lots of answers needed. You’re complicating the issue. The charging cable crossing the pavement would — as now when connecting to street charging points — be put away when charging is complete. That’s the reason for “slot channelling”. Nothing electrical is permanently left in the street, and the cable is no more vulnerable or pose any more danger than when connected to conventional street charging points. The vehicle user and/or householder would pay, as now, for the installation of the charger on their premises. They would also be charged for the cross-pavement slot channeling… I have been trying to locate the story of a young couple who purchased a bungalow in Brixham and paid for and got planning permiision to convert the bungalow into a child minder centre. His wife was a registered child minder with Torbay council and was granted the right to offer the service to mums who used to leves their children there whilst they were at work. Many of the mums who used to drop their kids off there were conserned that the property was on a nasty and very busy corner in Brixham. So the young couple who purchased the property which they named the house on Poo Corner had their own driveway widened so mums could pull up and their offsprings would not have to use the road. The man of the house was a small building contractor who did all the work of widening the drive and applied to the council to have their drop kerb widened to facilitate it to be used as a double drive and the council aggreed. He thought to save time for the council to carry out the exetension to the drop kerb he neatly cut out the pavement and removed the earth and sub strate to the required level and then went on and put new sub strate in at the required level so all the council had to do was to resuface the pavement with tarmac or ashphalt. When the council workers arrived to carry out the work they congratulad the man on what a good job he had made of doing their work and they did the job and moved on to their next job ....At some point one usual woke jobs worth got wind of what had happened and 2 months later a small possie of usless jobsworths turned up and deemed the drive not fit for usuage and that he had broke some BS bye law by digging up the pavement himself. Of course it went to court and the man lost the case and was fined £800 plus legal fees. A week later a mini digger and 5 layabouts who worked for the council turned up and ripped out all the hard work the man had carried out and then replaced it to what they thought was fit. At the end of the month the owners of the property had a huge water bill from South west water and the couple rang SWW and were told they had a water leak on their side of the water meter which was about one foot out from the gutter towards the center of the road. They never had a leak for the 2 month prior the council workers turning up and so they knew they had not caused the leak....The legal rangling went of for months with the council and just before it did go to court the council agreed meet the man halfway on the cost of the repairs and the water bill which was in excess of £12K the couple said no they were not paying the council a sigle penny towards the dammage they had created and the couple won the day at court and were awarded with over £15k for their expenses and legal bills etc... About 6 weeks after the court case Tyet more Torbay jobsworths turned up and inspected the property and deemed it unfit for child minding and that his wife who was a Torbay council registerd and a Torbay council validated child minder was told that her expertise on child minding was not up to scrath with some BS new bye law that suddenly appeared on the statute book of Torbay council.....Other child minders were not brought to book using this BS new bye law so yet again it is a case of if your face doesn't fit. |
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Post by zanygame on Mar 7, 2023 17:41:44 GMT
TBH this stuff would do in 90% of cases. You can drive over it. Is it electrically insulating? If so, how do you put the cables into to your terraced house? Who pays for it? Lots of answers needed. Why would it need to be electrically insulated, you are laying an insulated cable inside it. Who pays for it, I guess the homeowner (just as he would to have a kerb dropped) The cable from your home (Installed by the charger installer, see picture above) The home owner lifts the cover off of the thing and lays the cable in and plugs the end into his car then put the cover back on |
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