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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2023 20:05:55 GMT
If it was present then, there is no way of determining whether or not it played a part in rising temperatures at that time. There is no evidence as too whether it played a part in climate change either then or now. It is an established fact that CO2 levels were enormously high at a time when temperatures were sub-zero. ^^^ Which might account for the heating up that followed, rather than any cause. Any suggestion that greenhouse gasses are not detrimental to the health of the earth is yet to be made, yet alone to be proved..
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 25, 2023 20:10:57 GMT
ZG, I say again: It is pretty clear that support for net zero drops away rather rapidly as soon as people understand its implications.Then sometimes governments have to make tough decisions for a public too stupid to care for themselves. LOL superb. So we were too stupid to understand what Brexit meant, and now we're too stupid to understand what net zero means. ZG, go preach your message of net zero to countries who contribute the most to global emissions, you will find you're preaching to deaf ears. They don't care. The government could switch off UK Plc tomorrow and it would make absolutely no difference to global emissions. When will you people get it into your virtue signalling heads that the UK is too small to make a difference. FYI the worlds biggest polluters are: 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia And guess what, the majority of them don't give a toss about net zero. So you see, it doesn't matter what we do in the tiny country that is the UK.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 25, 2023 20:11:04 GMT
"Aw bless" that all you got school boy. And you don't even know what greenhouse gasses are. Go back to your playdough. You seem to take delight in displaying your own ignorance....But it gives the rest of us a good laugh....Sling another tyre on the bombfire babe... "The rest of us", self appointed speaker now. So predictable that you need flunkies to support your lack of self confidence. I'm sorry for you and now I understand your inadequacies I will be gentle with you. Please forgive my rudeness, you are worthwhile.
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Post by see2 on Jan 25, 2023 20:12:00 GMT
"Aw bless" that all you got school boy. And you don't even know what greenhouse gasses are. Go back to your playdough. You seem to take delight in displaying your own ignorance....But it gives the rest of us a good laugh....Sling another tyre on the bombfire babe... You are the one displaying ignorance but are naively unware that is just what you do.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 25, 2023 20:13:09 GMT
You seem to take delight in displaying your own ignorance....But it gives the rest of us a good laugh....Sling another tyre on the bombfire babe... "The rest of us", self appointed speaker now. So predictable that you need flunkies to support your lack of self confidence. I'm sorry for you and now I understand your inadequacies I will be gentle with you. Please forgive my rudeness, you are worthwhile. Come to the party armed rather than half cocked.....I aint got the time or inclination to try and aducate trolls.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 25, 2023 20:15:31 GMT
Then sometimes governments have to make tough decisions for a public too stupid to care for themselves. LOL superb. So we were too stupid to understand what Brexit meant, and now we're too stupid to understand what net zero means. ZG, go preach your message of net zero to countries who contribute the most to global emissions, you will find you're preaching to deaf ears. They don't care. The government could switch off UK Plc tomorrow and it would make absolutely no difference to global emissions. When will you people get it into your virtue signalling heads that the UK is too small to make a difference. FYI the worlds biggest polluters are: 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia And guess what, the majority of them don't give a toss about net zero. So you see, it doesn't matter what we do in the tiny country that is the UK. You are wrong. America did not care under Trump, but then the man is a moron. Now they are playing catch up. China admits they will need to burn coal to fuel their growing economy as manufacturer for the planet, but are still building 20 new nuclear reactors (Much more expensive than coal) Germany produces 46% of its energy from non fossil fuels.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 25, 2023 20:18:20 GMT
LOL superb. So we were too stupid to understand what Brexit meant, and now we're too stupid to understand what net zero means. ZG, go preach your message of net zero to countries who contribute the most to global emissions, you will find you're preaching to deaf ears. They don't care. The government could switch off UK Plc tomorrow and it would make absolutely no difference to global emissions. When will you people get it into your virtue signalling heads that the UK is too small to make a difference. FYI the worlds biggest polluters are: 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia And guess what, the majority of them don't give a toss about net zero. So you see, it doesn't matter what we do in the tiny country that is the UK. You are wrong. America did not care under Trump, but then the man is a moron. Now they are playing catch up. China admits they will need to burn coal to fuel their growing economy as manufacturer for the planet, but are still building 20 new nuclear reactors (Much more expensive than coal) Germany produces 46% of its energy from non fossil fuels. Oh right, that's OK then.
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Post by jonksy on Jan 25, 2023 20:24:45 GMT
Then sometimes governments have to make tough decisions for a public too stupid to care for themselves. LOL superb. So we were too stupid to understand what Brexit meant, and now we're too stupid to understand what net zero means. ZG, go preach your message of net zero to countries who contribute the most to global emissions, you will find you're preaching to deaf ears. They don't care. The government could switch off UK Plc tomorrow and it would make absolutely no difference to global emissions. When will you people get it into your virtue signalling heads that the UK is too small to make a difference. FYI the worlds biggest polluters are: 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia And guess what, the majority of them don't give a toss about net zero. So you see, it doesn't matter what we do in the tiny country that is the UK. This Mine Fire Has Been Burning For Over 50 Years Centralia, Pennsylvania was once a bustling mining center, but a hidden, underground fire has turned it into a smoldering ghost town.
The 10 Most Polluted Lakes in the United States
Waste Lands
During the build-up to the Cold War, the U.S. government called upon hundreds of factories and research centers to help develop nuclear weapons and other forms of atomic energy. At many sites, this work left behind residual radioactive contamination requiring government cleanups, some of which are still going on.
Where was Trump in those days?
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Post by jonksy on Jan 25, 2023 20:31:14 GMT
The extraction and transport of oil has caused far more damage to our planet than burning their products ever have.
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Post by zanygame on Jan 25, 2023 20:59:09 GMT
You are wrong. America did not care under Trump, but then the man is a moron. Now they are playing catch up. China admits they will need to burn coal to fuel their growing economy as manufacturer for the planet, but are still building 20 new nuclear reactors (Much more expensive than coal) Germany produces 46% of its energy from non fossil fuels. Oh right, that's OK then. Sneer sneer.
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Post by dodgydave on Jan 26, 2023 2:15:59 GMT
Starmer is a populist. Claiming the Chancellor is "in charge of tax" is complete bollocks, HMRC is independent. "HMRC’s status as a non-ministerial department is intended to ensure that the administration of the tax system is fair and impartial." Doesn't the buck stop with the Chancellor ? The Chancellor has nothing to do with the running of HMRC, it is independent and run by a board, unlike other government departments, which are overseen by a Secretary of State. This is my problem with Starmer, he pretends to be morally superior then comes out with populist lies like this. Everything out of his mouth is dog whistle bollocks. He is just like Farrage, but instead of blaming everything on foreigners, he blames billionaires / class / privilege.
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Post by Baron von Lotsov on Jan 26, 2023 2:45:48 GMT
Then sometimes governments have to make tough decisions for a public too stupid to care for themselves. LOL superb. So we were too stupid to understand what Brexit meant, and now we're too stupid to understand what net zero means. ZG, go preach your message of net zero to countries who contribute the most to global emissions, you will find you're preaching to deaf ears. They don't care. The government could switch off UK Plc tomorrow and it would make absolutely no difference to global emissions. When will you people get it into your virtue signalling heads that the UK is too small to make a difference. FYI the worlds biggest polluters are: 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia And guess what, the majority of them don't give a toss about net zero. So you see, it doesn't matter what we do in the tiny country that is the UK. It looks that way, but looking at how history turns out, I'd guess that China will be the world leader in green technology, and in doing so will manage to produce energy so cheaply that it is almost free. As for cars and suchlike, well I think the new technology will eventually surpass the old. After all the conventional car engine is over 150 years old. They will have personal electric flying cars with antonymous flying so anyone can fly in one.
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Post by borchester on Jan 26, 2023 2:59:04 GMT
Then sometimes governments have to make tough decisions for a public too stupid to care for themselves. LOL superb. So we were too stupid to understand what Brexit meant, and now we're too stupid to understand what net zero means. ZG, go preach your message of net zero to countries who contribute the most to global emissions, you will find you're preaching to deaf ears. They don't care. The government could switch off UK Plc tomorrow and it would make absolutely no difference to global emissions. When will you people get it into your virtue signalling heads that the UK is too small to make a difference. FYI the worlds biggest polluters are: 1. China 2. United States 3. India 4. Russia 5. Japan 6. Germany 7. Iran 8. South Korea 9. Saudi Arabia 10. Indonesia And guess what, the majority of them don't give a toss about net zero. So you see, it doesn't matter what we do in the tiny country that is the UK.
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Post by Red Rackham on Jan 26, 2023 3:03:08 GMT
It looks that way, but looking at how history turns out, I'd guess that China will be the world leader in green technology, and in doing so will manage to produce energy so cheaply that it is almost free. As for cars and suchlike, well I think the new technology will eventually surpass the old. After all the conventional car engine is over 150 years old. They will have personal electric flying cars with antonymous flying so anyone can fly in one. BvL, you're Xi Jinping's rep in this country so I would expect you say that. However, on this occasion you may be right. I mean, the writing is on the wall. Western governments are killing their economies as they fall over themselves to be seen as green, and to achieve this they buy more and more from China, a coal based economy. And because green energy is so expensive industries in the west increasingly relocate to, yes you guessed it, China. China can and thanks to stupid left wing eco zealots probably will, dominate the world. And make no mistake, China's strength is due to a coal based economy. Please, dont give me ZG type crap about China being the world leaders in green technology. China's economy is booming because of coal, and that's not going to change anytime soon.
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Post by Pacifico on Jan 26, 2023 7:54:49 GMT
It looks that way, but looking at how history turns out, I'd guess that China will be the world leader in green technology, and in doing so will manage to produce energy so cheaply that it is almost free. As for cars and suchlike, well I think the new technology will eventually surpass the old. After all the conventional car engine is over 150 years old. They will have personal electric flying cars with antonymous flying so anyone can fly in one.
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